The complaining can finally stop

So uh… To those who said that 343 wasn’t listening…

Welp…

Trust me, it will never stop.

It will never stop… They announce infection and complaints about the map and the colors are already started…

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> It will never stop… They announce infection and complaints about the map and the colors are already started…

And the problem is? You seem to enjoy bemoaning people with criticism yet never seem capable of actually challenging those criticism. On one hand complaints about the new map may be premature, but it also is firmly grounded in concerns about the prevalence of recycled remix maps and a lack of new original maps. As for colors, the one thread I saw about that admitted it was a minor concern at best and stems from a desire for custom colors for the un-Infected. Why is that a bad thing? I mean, you can wax and wane about how people never stop complaining, but that just amounts to complaining about complaining.

People will never stop being fanboys either.

Well, that dog thread was a nice break, back to business as usual though.

This is gonna get locked. By Snickerdoodle most likely.

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> People will never stop being fanboys either.

Yeah…it’s almost like some people enjoy something and others don’t, and almost no amount of fighting either way is likely to change someone’s mind. Something like that.

hmmm… could be

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> > It will never stop… They announce infection and complaints about the map and the colors are already started…
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> And the problem is? You seem to enjoy bemoaning people with criticism yet never seem capable of actually challenging those criticism. On one hand complaints about the new map may be premature, but it also is firmly grounded in concerns about the prevalence of recycled remix maps and a lack of new original maps. As for colors, the one thread I saw about that admitted it was a minor concern at best and stems from a desire for custom colors for the un-Infected. Why is that a bad thing? I mean, you can wax and wane about how people never stop complaining, but that just amounts to complaining about complaining.

I just don’t understand how you complain about something you haven’t even tried yet. They are basing their complaint on an assumption so why even challenge it. I guess I am just out side the norm here and would rather wait to see how it is before complaining.

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> > > It will never stop… They announce infection and complaints about the map and the colors are already started…
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> > And the problem is? You seem to enjoy bemoaning people with criticism yet never seem capable of actually challenging those criticism. On one hand complaints about the new map may be premature, but it also is firmly grounded in concerns about the prevalence of recycled remix maps and a lack of new original maps. As for colors, the one thread I saw about that admitted it was a minor concern at best and stems from a desire for custom colors for the un-Infected. Why is that a bad thing? I mean, you can wax and wane about how people never stop complaining, but that just amounts to complaining about complaining.
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> I just don’t understand how you complain about something you haven’t even tried yet. They are basing their complaint on an assumption so why even challenge it. I guess I am just out side the norm here and would rather wait to see how it is before complaining.

People can only form opinions on what they have. I don’t think anyone has said the remix of Torque will be bad to play on, though some who don’t like Torque as it is may think that, but there is just a concern with the amount of remix maps as opposed to new, unique maps. As for Infection, again nobody seems to suggest the gameplay will be bad, but they just are concerned about things like custom colors and even then they say that complaint is minor. There is context there.

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> > > > It will never stop… They announce infection and complaints about the map and the colors are already started…
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> > > And the problem is? You seem to enjoy bemoaning people with criticism yet never seem capable of actually challenging those criticism. On one hand complaints about the new map may be premature, but it also is firmly grounded in concerns about the prevalence of recycled remix maps and a lack of new original maps. As for colors, the one thread I saw about that admitted it was a minor concern at best and stems from a desire for custom colors for the un-Infected. Why is that a bad thing? I mean, you can wax and wane about how people never stop complaining, but that just amounts to complaining about complaining.
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> > I just don’t understand how you complain about something you haven’t even tried yet. They are basing their complaint on an assumption so why even challenge it. I guess I am just out side the norm here and would rather wait to see how it is before complaining.
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> People can only form opinions on what they have. I don’t think anyone has said the remix of Torque will be bad to play on, though some who don’t like Torque as it is may think that, but there is just a concern with the amount of remix maps as opposed to new, unique maps. As for Infection, again nobody seems to suggest the gameplay will be bad, but they just are concerned about things like custom colors and even then they say that complaint is minor. There is context there.

Minor or not they are still baseless complaints off of what was a short teaser that really didn’t give any real information to form a good opinion about infection off of. Stuff could even change before release for all we know. Remixed maps aren’t the end of the world either depending on how it plays. Some have been good others not so much. Torque isn’t a horrible map IMO a remix of it may be good.

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> > > > > It will never stop… They announce infection and complaints about the map and the colors are already started…
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> > > > And the problem is? You seem to enjoy bemoaning people with criticism yet never seem capable of actually challenging those criticism. On one hand complaints about the new map may be premature, but it also is firmly grounded in concerns about the prevalence of recycled remix maps and a lack of new original maps. As for colors, the one thread I saw about that admitted it was a minor concern at best and stems from a desire for custom colors for the un-Infected. Why is that a bad thing? I mean, you can wax and wane about how people never stop complaining, but that just amounts to complaining about complaining.
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> > People can only form opinions on what they have. I don’t think anyone has said the remix of Torque will be bad to play on, though some who don’t like Torque as it is may think that, but there is just a concern with the amount of remix maps as opposed to new, unique maps. As for Infection, again nobody seems to suggest the gameplay will be bad, but they just are concerned about things like custom colors and even then they say that complaint is minor. There is context there.
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> Minor or not they are still baseless complaints off of what was a short teaser that really didn’t give any real information to form a good opinion about infection off of. Stuff could even change before release for all we know. Remixed maps aren’t the end of the world either depending on how it plays. Some have been good others not so much. Torque isn’t a horrible map IMO a remix of it may be good.

You are right, things may change. Those changes may even come from the minor complaints about things like custom colors. Neither of us really knows, but to say they are baseless is pretty ignorant. You can disagree with them, but until we get the final product in our hand I won’t discount someone’s criticism unless it is just taking the piss. As for the Torque remix, again I’m not saying it will be bad to play on, though if you don’t like Torque one may not like the remix. Nor are remixes inherently bad, but there is concern in the community about their abundance when compared to new maps. It is analogous to how many Forge maps Reach had in it. Those maps weren’t all bad, but I could see why people wanted something new.

sorry but I still want playable elites and the falcon

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> > It will never stop… They announce infection and complaints about the map and the colors are already started…
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> And the problem is? You seem to enjoy bemoaning people with criticism yet never seem capable of actually challenging those criticism. On one hand complaints about the new map may be premature, but it also is firmly grounded in concerns about the prevalence of recycled remix maps and a lack of new original maps. As for colors, the one thread I saw about that admitted it was a minor concern at best and stems from a desire for custom colors for the un-Infected. Why is that a bad thing? I mean, you can wax and wane about how people never stop complaining, but that just amounts to complaining about complaining.

And yet all you seem to do on the forums is complain and argue about people complaining about complaining. It’s an endless circle.

Yeah good luck with that. I understand the premise with constructive critisicism and have no issue with that but there are people who wanted infection - they now have it yet already this morning some of those same people still complaining that it wasn’t in game from launch. It’s here be happy (if you wanted it)

Nah we will always find more reasons to complain

The moment infection gets released, the -Yoink!- will start like, disable charge, disable this, disable that :smiley:

343 are always listening, everything they do is an extremely fine calculated plan to help sell req packs. Infection will decrease the Warzone population so releasing it was always a risk to them. 343 probably only added it because the community’s outrage isn’t worth req pack sales any more.

Naw. Now it’s just going to be “why’d it take so long?”

Why is everyone complaining about it being a remix? Yeah sure it uses the setting of another map but at the same time they clearly put effort into maximizing the differences, if you removed the sky box which shows that its the Torque station youll find that the map has very few if any similarities with Torque

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> Why is everyone complaining about it being a remix? Yeah sure it uses the setting of another map but at the same time they clearly put effort into maximizing the differences, if you removed the sky box which shows that its the Torque station youll find that the map has very few if any similarities with Torque

Its funny that people complain about remixes but some want old maps from past games back and those are also technically “remixes.”