We have lost a hero to our glorious and noble cause, but does this foreshadow our defeat? No. It is a new beginning. Compared to Casual gamers the national resources of Competitive gamers are less than one thirtieth of theirs. Despite this major difference, how is it that we have been able to fight the fight for so long? It is because our goal in this war is a righteous one. It’s been over 4 years years since the casuals, consumed by greed took control of the Halo franchise. We want our freedom. Never forget the times when the Casuals has trampled us! We, the Competitive gamers, have had a long and arduous struggle to achieve freedom for all players of this great game. Our fight is sacred, our cause divine. Our beloved brother, Ghandi, was sacrificed. Why? The war is at a stalemate. Perhaps many of you have become complacent. Such a lack of compassion is —.
The Casual gamers has polluted our most cherished game for their own greed. We must send them a message, but not composed of words. We have wasted too much time with words. We need action now.
Many of your brothers and fellow gamers have perished valiantly in the face of a contemptible enemy. We must never forget what the Casuals has done to our people! Our brother, Ghandi, has shown us these virtues through his own valiant sacrifice. By focusing our anger and sorrow, we are finally in a position where victory is within our grasp, and once again, our most cherished community will flourish. Victory is the greatest tribute we can pay those who sacrifice their lives for us! Rise, our people, Rise! Take your sorrow, and turn it into anger! Competitive gamers thirsts for the strength of its people! Glory to Competitive Halo!
You do know that Gihren Zabi was compared to Adolf -Yoink!-, right? So in this inspiration, the “competitive” players are the “superior race” and “casual” players are the “lesser race”.
Coming from the competitive side of things, this is just a bit ignorant talking down to casuals, we all need to learn to co-exist and get along. Its why the community is so divided, why they hate competitive people so much, people stereo-type us as -Yoinks!-, instead of acting better then the casuals, need to focus more of getting along better.
> You do know that Gihren Zabi was compared to Adolf -Yoink!-, right?
> So in this inspiration, the “competitive” players are the “superior race” and “casual” players are the “lesser race”.
You only have to look at the history of posts on Bnet to see that’s EXACTLY how the worst behaved (most vocal, like OP) competitive gamers view us.
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another pointless thread about casual and competitive players. OP is a -Yoink-
> Rainbow Dash. Why do you hate competition and a skill gap?
I think he hates the attitude that comes with having a number next to your name, as well as most of the competitive players who are complete rude and mean people.
I personally don’t mind a skill ranking system, I just hate how anything 1-49 is considered bad, “casual filth” and is constantly attacked.
Competitive players need to show some respect and be more sportsmanlike. Then I’ll gladly advocate and support their need for a competitive system. (and yes I understand not ALL competitive players are rude, but a majority of them are. Casual people aren’t all nice either but we don’t go out of our way to attack competitive people. We didn’t ruin choose to ruin gaming. We just became the biggest marketshare).
Competitives have only themselves to blame for the hate. Calling people Scrubs and Noobs while Stat comparing to talk down to people only cemented the notion that they are elitists and worth nothing save only the emotional disgust that they generate.
K/D and W/L was king, so now you complain when players use the DMR for long range battles soley to protect such stats. Your side practically forced this type of game play by it’s laser focus on statistics, rather than a more positive and long term mindsets like sportsmanship and fomenting the true values of a good game in Halo.
> Competitives have only themselves to blame for the hate. Calling people Scrubs and Noobs while Stat comparing to talk down to people only cemented the notion that they are elitists and worth nothing save only the emotional disgust that they generate.
> K/D and W/L was king, so now you complain when players use the DMR for long range battles soley to protect such stats. Your side practically forced this type of game play by it’s laser focus on statistics, rather than a more positive and long term mindsets like sportsmanship and fomenting the true values of a good game in Halo.
Pretty much this. It really sucks trying to have a discussion when someone pulls up your stats and is all like “OMG 1.2 K/D? Your opinion is invalid! noob! You suck! get on my level!”.
Thankfully pulling the stat card at Halo Waypoint is not allowed. This is a good step to returning gaming to civility and sportsmanship.
Halo 4 will not have any competitve side until they remove the ridiculous bullet magnetism that ensures even the worst of players can shoot with the best of them.
I agree that competitive players dug their own grave. To me, the difference between hardcore and casual had nothing to do with skill, it was about values. Regardless of rank, stats and skill, if you admired skilful play, and strived to be better, you weren’t a casual. Afterall, every hardcore started this way.
I hate where halo has gone, but elitism is no doubt the reason we arrived here. Something every hardcore player should think of before another beloved franchise is ruined.
We have also lost Walshy, the greatest Halo 2 player of all time. Thanks Bungie/343! Keep supporting the casuals over the majority of competitive players! MLG will probably drop Halo now, thanks to you guys!
I remember the golden age of games, but as well as Halo. Halo 1/2/3, those are the games I will NEVER forget in my life. I grew up with Halo, I remember the launch for Halo 2. Those were the days, and I shall never forget the launch of Halo 3 (imo best Halo yet). But now, I’m not sure if those days will come back. Not with how Halo is going. Sure, it’s selling the best it’s ever, but it doesn’t bring back the memories. The glitches, the custom games, the map packs. Nothing! Especially the memories, I can’t remember one special thing that happened to me in Halo 4, besides the Campaign (which was amazing). Please, 343, hear US out. The true fans/majority want Halo to be like Halo 2/3, not this watered down noob stuff.
And to those fans saying: “Halo is getting a new identity to suit its new player base. The H1/2/3 age of gamers have left. BLAH BLAH BLAH.”, you are wrong. A game suddenly just doesn’t grow millions of new players over the course of two years. We’re all still here, and we’re all pissed off. There is no “new player base” that supposedly has more casuals than competitive. Not true at all.
Now I have hopes in 343, but only in the campaign and forge aspect, going 3 different maps instead of forge world I liked a lot more. Everything else has been butchered. If you don’t fix the multiplayer, I’m done. I will stop buying my favourite game series, it will be hard, since I grew up with it. But, it’s the only way to technically support Halo. I thought you guys would be like Bungie, but we don’t really have that much of relationship together, especially because it doesn’t seem like you’re even listening to us.
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> You do know that Gihren Zabi was compared to Adolf -Yoink!-, right?
> So in this inspiration, the “competitive” players are the “superior race” and “casual” players are the “lesser race”.
