The commando is the worst weapon the UNSC has ever fielded

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which is something i dont get, its extremely hard to introduce a new ammunition even during peace times why would the unsc do it when they are on the back foot.

also bullets only keep so long, so even if they had a stockpile of them 65 year old bullets wouldn’t preform consistently. there would be misfires left and right so they have to manufacture new in quite a large quantity putting further stress on the supply chain. the logistics of it just doesn’t make sense.

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There’s just far too many inconsistencies that plague the gun. They should’ve brought back the M392 DMR so it wouldn’t completely destroy Infinite’s already weak lore. But then again this is the reason why you have gun guys and military personnel to help story making so it features realistic weaponry.

its the weakest lore we’ve had for a halo yet even CE had better

343 stepped away from doing this a long time ago

So what you’re saying is that the Infinity was able to mass produce tens of thousands of a particular discontinued rifle that was used primarily by an enemy, used inadequate outdated ammunition, had horrific ergonomics, horrible performance, and a nonexistent service life, while also not being able to defend why such a weapon was made in the first place.

In the Bungie games all rifles used the singular NATO cartridge as ammo to smoothen out logistics and training. It makes sense as it’s a very good anti personnel and armor piercing round.

6.5mm is smaller, weaker, more obscure, and uncommon bullet. Meaning that the Infinity, during an emergency situation that ended with it vanishing with most of its crew either dead or missing, was able to find schematics during slipspace evasion while also making pit stops at various stations and destroyed planets to gather precious manpower and resources, yet they decided to split manufacturing abilities into making an obsolete rifle that performs worse than the tried and true MA5, BR55 ,or M392 rifles that have been serving humanity for well over a hundred years?

What have you say in the commandos defense?

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I like how Bungie hired real Marines to help them design armor and weapons for the UNSC so it feels more authentic. 343 seems to draw inspiration from airsoft and other pieces of science fiction fantasy instead of futuristic modern day high cut tech.

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currently this round is the new version of the 5.56 it has slightly better stopping power and better penetration against ceramic body armor but idk about its effectiveness against steel/titanium armor

however the br uses a 9.5x40mm

Strange, I always perceived the BR55 utilizing the 7.62. It wouldn’t surprise me that it uses a larger round but it does kill in a similar amount of bullets to the AR

The re-coil makes it absolutely useless on Xbox.

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The trick with the commando is firing in four round bursts. There is very little spread or bloom in those first four shots. Give it a split second and shoot another four. The weapon is an absolute killer if used right, but is difficult to use. For sure, it is less reliable than the BR, but has a shorter time to kill, so the skill gap on that weapon should be high in opinion.

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1: I doubt they mass produced it, given the UNSC we see in Infinite is basically a resistance. It stands to reason a lot of ex insurgents signed up to help. That includes their stockpiles.
2: Horrific ergonomics? What are you on? The VK-78 looks like it holds wonderfully. Certainly more wieldy than an MA series rifle.
3: Well the performance was actually quite impressive in the flights. Indeed the Commando was considered OP. So it wasn’t designed to suck this bad, but 343i over-corrected. It needs less bloom, if perhaps none, and just recoil to balance it out.

4: So this is hilarious but you’re wrong. In the Bungie games, the DMR and MA series used a 7.62x51mm NATO round, but nothing else did. The Magnums all used a 12.7x40mm round type or subtype, the Snipers use a 14.5x114mm Anti Material Round and REALLY WEIRDLY, the BR used the 9.5x40mm AP round! Really weird choice to be honest.

You really don’t know anything about the lore and it’s honestly hilarious.

5: Nope, Insurgent stockpiles and “All the help we can get” type situation. Besides. The M392 has been out of circulation for a really long time. The UNSC uses the M395 DMR these days. It is surprising that it’s not present, but hey, that’s video games for you.

Surprised you’re not complaining about the Sidekick! It uses a 10mm round, The Infinity SOMEHOW manufactured a ton of THOSE, and THOSE guns are properly modern! But you’re not complaining about that, are you?

Truly, you are hilarious.

This was not used by insurrectionists necessarily. It’s an older rifle yes, but not as old as the MA37 which was used over 100 years after it’s introduction. Does it have much lore? No. Does it have a service history with the UEG and UNSC? Yes it actually does.

How did the resistance help if they’re mostly communist, unintelligent, and not capable of FTL travel since they’re communist? Also why would the Infinity give its coordinates away to an enemy? Nothing you ever say makes a lick of sense. 98k

Where are you getting your information? Because most of what you said here is incorrect.

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Old novels and comics stated the insurrection was riddled with communists, neo-nazis, and American freedom extremists.

Hoho wow, you’re just going
 Completely off your rocker.

You uh, do know that The Insurgency was SO BAD that they developed the Spartan IIs, right?

It’s more likely that VK was never part of Infinity’s main arsenal, but would make alot of sense if insurrectionists that joined the banished supplied them with VKs instead.

That’s probably why you see so many Skimmers and Brutes wielding VKs against you, and the existence of a Kinetic ammo crate supports that they use ballistic ammunation on the regular since Needler Ammo is more or less HE rather than Ballistic ammunation and would have to be stored separately and is just grouped as Kinetic for gameplay purposes.

yeah, its been 9.5 since h2, its caliber is bigger but its casing is shorter by about 10mm so i’m not sure if the round delivers the same kinetic energy or more there’s a lot of science that goes into ballistic, however a closer ranges it would “hit” harder and do more damage to armor just because the bullet weighs more than the 7.62 but there would most likely be a steep fall of past about 300 or so yards where as current 7.62s carry “killing potential” out to at least 1000 yards and can pierce light armor out to about 500 yards

I love how you can’t even defend your points all you can say is “I don’t know what I’m talking about because I get a couple small details wrong about outside media for a game I like because I have a job, family that loves me, and a social life so I can’t pour all my time into reading books I have no interest in just to be correct on an online forum”.

The commando sucks, get over it. It has low accuracy and high recoil that gives off the impression that eve n Spartans have issues controlling and unwieldly weapon such as it, with an awful bullet-per kill ratio meaning its inefficient for a “resistance” sized force like the Zeta Halo UNSC remnant. It doesn’t even fit Halo aesthetically because, again, it resembles a cookie cutter gun from Titanfall 2. If this gun was so great, how come nobody picks it up except when they specifically have a challenge for it, or they have never used the gun before?

And about the sidekick, its awful but the only thing that saves it is the 1 second reload speed and fast fire rate. I don’t like it and don’t understand the downgrade from the M6G with a 10mm round which again, how is the UNSC diverting resources to produce these inefficient, inadequate, low quality weapons? Last I checked .50 is a very good at anti personnel so I don’t understand the divergence from tried and true to whatever this is.

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