Well, I clearly remember posting in Waypoint before the release of Halo 5 that since it’s a science fiction story, anything is possible. Prior to Halo 5, the prevailing wisdom was that Cortana was “dead”. I said then that if the writers needed her back for plot reasons, she would return and they would make up a reason. Turns out I was on to something.
I don’t think they would make Master Chief immortal. However, they could make him live as long as they need to just because of that cutscene.
Sure, the writers could do what they want but that doesn’t mean it’d be a good idea, Cortana’s revival is a testament to that. Hard to blame folks for thinking 343 wasn’t lying when it came to Cortana’s death. Heck, I even said that if they did bring her back it’d be a terrible idea. Guess I can claim that victory.
Still though, if every idea being presented that runs into criticism is going to be countered with “Well, it could happen.” we might as well just shut down the discussion now.
Giving the chief immortality so they can use him forever without appropriately creating new and interesting characters to continue the story? Sounds 343 enough to me.
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> Giving the chief immortality so they can use him forever without appropriately creating new and interesting characters to continue the story? Sounds 343 enough to me.
I’d rather have that than have another Locke tossed at us. I started playing halo with the Chief and ill end when the Chief does.
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> > Giving the chief immortality so they can use him forever without appropriately creating new and interesting characters to continue the story? Sounds 343 enough to me.
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> I’d rather have that than have another Locke tossed at us. I started playing halo with the Chief and ill end when the Chief does.
Doesn’t sound like you are open to anything but the Chief. Honestly, I never saw anything fundamentally wrong with Locke.
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> > > Giving the chief immortality so they can use him forever without appropriately creating new and interesting characters to continue the story? Sounds 343 enough to me.
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> > I’d rather have that than have another Locke tossed at us. I started playing halo with the Chief and ill end when the Chief does.
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> Doesn’t sound like you are open to anything but the Chief. Honestly, I never saw anything fundamentally wrong with Locke.
I’m not denying that. But I play halo for chiefs story. It would be like removing Geralt from the Withcer 3. It could still be a good game, but I play halo to continue chiefs story. There are many parts of the series that don’t live up to the halo we all grew up with, and as many of the choices 343 has made that I hate i return to finish the story. When chiefs story ends there really won’t be any aspect of the series that I can’t get or get better in a different franchise. Unfortunately nostalgia is one of the only things this series has left in my opinion.
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> Sure, the writers could do what they want but that doesn’t mean it’d be a good idea, Cortana’s revival is a testament to that. Hard to blame folks for thinking 343 wasn’t lying when it came to Cortana’s death. Heck, I even said that if they did bring her back it’d be a terrible idea. Guess I can claim that victory.
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> Still though, if every idea being presented that runs into criticism is going to be countered with “Well, it could happen.” we might as well just shut down the discussion now.
I don’t think Cortana’s revival was a bad idea but just poorly executed
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> > Sure, the writers could do what they want but that doesn’t mean it’d be a good idea, Cortana’s revival is a testament to that. Hard to blame folks for thinking 343 wasn’t lying when it came to Cortana’s death. Heck, I even said that if they did bring her back it’d be a terrible idea. Guess I can claim that victory.
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> > Still though, if every idea being presented that runs into criticism is going to be countered with “Well, it could happen.” we might as well just shut down the discussion now.
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> I don’t think Cortana’s revival was a bad idea but just poorly executed
Exactly, and that’s what people seem to not get. I honestly hope they focus a bit more on cortana than they have in the previous games on Infinite, because even though it would be totally predictable, having cutscenes in infinite where cortana would be literally tearing herself apart due to the logic plague to bring it the current saga full-circle to line up with the way that halo 3’s story went would honestly be fantastic, as, in a lot of ways, they could easily bury half of the terrible, not well thought out plot developments that they seemed to make in halo 5.
As for the immortality thing, I think it would be interesting if she dramatically increased his lifespan, but not as much if she just “made him immortal”. It’d feel like a cheap shot, especially after the whole cortana-revival situation that they currently have on their hands. I honestly hope they don’t just kill her off b/c to do so would devalue practically all of the storytelling up until this point.
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> Interesting idea but I’m not sure how to feel about it. Chief the immortal spartan sounds pretty bad -Yoink- but it’s a little far fetched for Halo’s universe in my opinion. Halo has always felt like very grounded sci fi to me and immortality is a little out of its realm in my opinion. I am very interested to see if he got anything else from the gift. I almost feel like they didn’t explain exactly what he got in H4 so they could do whatever in the future.
I’ve always liked the fact that the Halo universe felt like a grounded sci-fi but since 343 Industries started making Halo games I feel like it isn’t so grounded anymore. That’s why the Librarian scene felt so much bad to me. Hell, a ghost giving the Chief superpowers? I didn’t like it. At least give us a reason why you did it. Now I feel like they moved away from a grounded sci fi for no reason at all. In “Chief not aging anymore” scenario at least there would be a reason why they did it.
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> > > Sure, the writers could do what they want but that doesn’t mean it’d be a good idea, Cortana’s revival is a testament to that. Hard to blame folks for thinking 343 wasn’t lying when it came to Cortana’s death. Heck, I even said that if they did bring her back it’d be a terrible idea. Guess I can claim that victory.
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> > > Still though, if every idea being presented that runs into criticism is going to be countered with “Well, it could happen.” we might as well just shut down the discussion now.
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> > I don’t think Cortana’s revival was a bad idea but just poorly executed
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> Exactly, and that’s what people seem to not get. I honestly hope they focus a bit more on cortana than they have in the previous games on Infinite, because even though it would be totally predictable, having cutscenes in infinite where cortana would be literally tearing herself apart due to the logic plague to bring it the current saga full-circle to line up with the way that halo 3’s story went would honestly be fantastic, as, in a lot of ways, they could easily bury half of the terrible, not well thought out plot developments that they seemed to make in halo 5.
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> As for the immortality thing, I think it would be interesting if she dramatically increased his lifespan, but not as much if she just “made him immortal”. It’d feel like a cheap shot, especially after the whole cortana-revival situation that they currently have on their hands. I honestly hope they don’t just kill her off b/c to do so would devalue practically all of the storytelling up until this point.
Cortana having the logic plague is still just an assumption at this point, especially since 343 has released content that suggest nearly half a dozen reasons why Cortana went nuts.
Besides, I’d still maintain it was more than poor execution. Her revival made everything that happened with her in Halo 4 meaningless. Why does Cortana have to go “full circle” back to Halo 3? That part of her narrative had already been explored and concluded. All this does it make her a perpetual victim, first to the Gravemind, then to her rampancy, and now to the Gravemind again. All this does is tarnish her legacy.
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> > Interesting idea but I’m not sure how to feel about it. Chief the immortal spartan sounds pretty bad -Yoink- but it’s a little far fetched for Halo’s universe in my opinion. Halo has always felt like very grounded sci fi to me and immortality is a little out of its realm in my opinion. I am very interested to see if he got anything else from the gift. I almost feel like they didn’t explain exactly what he got in H4 so they could do whatever in the future.
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> I’ve always liked the fact that the Halo universe felt like a grounded sci-fi but since 343 Industries started making Halo games I feel like it isn’t so grounded anymore. That’s why the Librarian scene felt so much bad to me. Hell, a ghost giving the Chief superpowers? I didn’t like it. At least give us a reason why you did it. Now I feel like they moved away from a grounded sci fi for no reason at all. In “Chief not aging anymore” scenario at least there would be a reason why they did it.
True, 343i has in general broken that grounded sci fi immersion feeling, not like immortality would be any different.
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> > > > Sure, the writers could do what they want but that doesn’t mean it’d be a good idea, Cortana’s revival is a testament to that. Hard to blame folks for thinking 343 wasn’t lying when it came to Cortana’s death. Heck, I even said that if they did bring her back it’d be a terrible idea. Guess I can claim that victory.
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> > > > Still though, if every idea being presented that runs into criticism is going to be countered with “Well, it could happen.” we might as well just shut down the discussion now.
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> > > I don’t think Cortana’s revival was a bad idea but just poorly executed
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> > Exactly, and that’s what people seem to not get. I honestly hope they focus a bit more on cortana than they have in the previous games on Infinite, because even though it would be totally predictable, having cutscenes in infinite where cortana would be literally tearing herself apart due to the logic plague to bring it the current saga full-circle to line up with the way that halo 3’s story went would honestly be fantastic, as, in a lot of ways, they could easily bury half of the terrible, not well thought out plot developments that they seemed to make in halo 5.
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> > As for the immortality thing, I think it would be interesting if she dramatically increased his lifespan, but not as much if she just “made him immortal”. It’d feel like a cheap shot, especially after the whole cortana-revival situation that they currently have on their hands. I honestly hope they don’t just kill her off b/c to do so would devalue practically all of the storytelling up until this point.
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> Cortana having the logic plague is still just an assumption at this point, especially since 343 has released content that suggest nearly half a dozen reasons why Cortana went nuts.
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> Besides, I’d still maintain it was more than poor execution. Her revival made everything that happened with her in Halo 4 meaningless. Why does Cortana have to go “full circle” back to Halo 3? That part of her narrative had already been explored and concluded. All this does it make her a perpetual victim, first to the Gravemind, then to her rampancy, and now to the Gravemind again. All this does is tarnish her legacy.
By “full circle” I mean in a way that this saga is literally repeating key events from the previous trilogy, while not the same, they’re incredibly similar. I call this the “similarity” theory, as halo 1 seems to link with 4 (not storyline-wise, but plot-wise, crashing on a new planet, etc), 2 somewhat with 5, and potentially, 3 with infinite.
I know that the logic plague thing is still an assumption, buuuuuut, assuming they do go down that path, it would line up with halo 3, as cortana was under/recovering from the effects of the gravemind.
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> > > > > Sure, the writers could do what they want but that doesn’t mean it’d be a good idea, Cortana’s revival is a testament to that. Hard to blame folks for thinking 343 wasn’t lying when it came to Cortana’s death. Heck, I even said that if they did bring her back it’d be a terrible idea. Guess I can claim that victory.
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> > > > > Still though, if every idea being presented that runs into criticism is going to be countered with “Well, it could happen.” we might as well just shut down the discussion now.
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> > > > I don’t think Cortana’s revival was a bad idea but just poorly executed
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> > > Exactly, and that’s what people seem to not get. I honestly hope they focus a bit more on cortana than they have in the previous games on Infinite, because even though it would be totally predictable, having cutscenes in infinite where cortana would be literally tearing herself apart due to the logic plague to bring it the current saga full-circle to line up with the way that halo 3’s story went would honestly be fantastic, as, in a lot of ways, they could easily bury half of the terrible, not well thought out plot developments that they seemed to make in halo 5.
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> > > As for the immortality thing, I think it would be interesting if she dramatically increased his lifespan, but not as much if she just “made him immortal”. It’d feel like a cheap shot, especially after the whole cortana-revival situation that they currently have on their hands. I honestly hope they don’t just kill her off b/c to do so would devalue practically all of the storytelling up until this point.
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> > Cortana having the logic plague is still just an assumption at this point, especially since 343 has released content that suggest nearly half a dozen reasons why Cortana went nuts.
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> > Besides, I’d still maintain it was more than poor execution. Her revival made everything that happened with her in Halo 4 meaningless. Why does Cortana have to go “full circle” back to Halo 3? That part of her narrative had already been explored and concluded. All this does it make her a perpetual victim, first to the Gravemind, then to her rampancy, and now to the Gravemind again. All this does is tarnish her legacy.
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> By “full circle” I mean in a way that this saga is literally repeating key events from the previous trilogy, while not the same, they’re incredibly similar. I call this the “similarity” theory, as halo 1 seems to link with 4 (not storyline-wise, but plot-wise, crashing on a new planet, etc), 2 somewhat with 5, and potentially, 3 with infinite.
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> I know that the logic plague thing is still an assumption, buuuuuut, assuming they do go down that path, it would line up with halo 3, as cortana was under/recovering from the effects of the gravemind.
She encountered the Gravemind, but that doesn’t mean the logic plague was going to affect her later on down the line. Every argument it sent her way she rejected even to the point of death on her end. Granted, once rampancy began to grip her some of the arguments the Gravemind made seemed to be causing some doubts, but then again the arguments it used were pretty common fears. Death, leaving people you care about behind without you, life’s unfairness, these are all things Cortana would have faced anyway. Besides, she already recovered from the effects of the Gravemind by Halo 4’s end. Yes, she died, but she went out on her own terms, saved Chief, and got the experience, if briefly, being “real”. I just don’t see what the point would be for her story to survive that and see, “Surprise, you’ve been working for the Gravemind this whole time!.” Even if see as a similarity to prior games, Infinite seems to be aping Halo: CE more than it would be Halo 3.
I like to think that the Chief can stay in a prime physical condition due in part to his enhanced physiology. Look at Sgt Johnson; he was like 70-75 years old and still physically fit, thanks in part to his ORION upgrades. The Chief’s, even more augmented, body could, in theory, be devoid of drastic aging signs. Similar to Captain America, the Chief is capable of enhanced metabolic functions, augmented cardiovascular, and circulatory systems. This could contribute to reduced cellular degradation, improved regenerative properties, which could keep him in his prime longer than the normal human.
The Librarian’s Gift, could further enhance these augmentations, by protecting his nervous system from the Composer’s beam. His could also help lengthen his life span by enhancing his already improved motor functions, neurological efficiency, and higher brain functions. He could be the pinnacle of human capability. That’s not to say he and his other SII’s are not already, he is just, more.
Just my thoughts.
The chief’s height at the end of 4 was a rendering issue that never got fixed before release and this was confirmed by devs. He is only about a head taller than the average person outside of his armor. I haven’t seen any conclusive evidence as to why cortana went bananas but to me the logic plague doesn’t fit. What seems more logical to me is that in splitting so many fragmented aspects of herself off to save the chief and stop the didact, she corrupted her own code and logic routines therefore leading to her misguided use of the mantle. As for the chief’s ‘gift’, it could easily be argued that along with an immunity to the composer, he could have also been given the genetic advancements of earlier humans , prior to de-evolution, allowing him to live for hundreds, if not, thousands of years provided certain needs are met. This would be similar to the forerunners who lived for tens of thousands of years thanks to their armor keeping them in peek condition. If that is the case i would err of the side of hundreds rather than thousands given the lower level of technology and his armor not providing him with anything beyond additional defenses.
He is immune to Promethean Composing, but that won’t make him immune from the Flood Infection!
No Spartan as died of old age yet and Johnson a Spartan 1 was in his 80s in Halo 3. Chief is still in his 40s. So there is no reason to believe he will died of old age any time soon or that he needs to be immortal. IF Chief is going to die it will be in Battle not in Bed.
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> No Spartan as died of old age yet and Johnson a Spartan 1 was in his 80s in Halo 3. Chief is still in his 40s. So there is no reason to believe he will died of old age any time soon or that he needs to be immortal. IF Chief is going to die it will be in Battle not in Bed.
He was in his early 70s
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> > No Spartan as died of old age yet and Johnson a Spartan 1 was in his 80s in Halo 3. Chief is still in his 40s. So there is no reason to believe he will died of old age any time soon or that he needs to be immortal. IF Chief is going to die it will be in Battle not in Bed.
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I stand corrected. That However doesn’t change my point.
No, that’s not what happened. The Forerunners weren’t able to stop aging. They had incredibly advanced armor and other sciences that allowed them to live such long lives. So Chief would need to have access to Forerunner armor and other medical stuff. So Chief got perks like immunity to the Composer, access to the Domain, and likely other things but not no more aging.