WHO’S IDEA WAS THIS
Stop telling me to stick with my teammates. What am I supposed to do when I am in the middle of shooting somebody and they pull out the Boltshot and kill me?
NO EXCUSE
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ok instead of raging like a three year old, write about the problems you are having and tell 343 how to fix it. They know that the boltshot is overpowered
> ok instead of raging like a three year old, write about the problems you are having and tell 343 how to fix it. They know that the boltshot is overpowered
I don’t think they know. Its been 2 months and nothing has been done.
> > ok instead of raging like a three year old, write about the problems you are having and tell 343 how to fix it. They know that the boltshot is overpowered
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> I don’t think they know. Its been 2 months and nothing has been done.
I currently have 10 kills and 6 deaths to the Bolt Shot. (-4)
You currently have 116 Kills and 52 deaths to the Bolt Shot. (+64)
You have 30 Kills and and 47 Deaths to the Magnum (-17!)
Why don’t you think the magnum is OP?
Your logic is really horrible. Deaths do to the magnum are probably because I missed. People have to be accurate with it to kill me. The boltshot, however, is a one shot weapon(In MANY of my deaths). It is a secondary that allows you to kill in one shot. Thats just -Yoinking!- stupid
Given 343’s logic so far I doubt we’ll see any corrections to the BS. And if by some miracle it happens it won’t be until the TU and that’s not until late Feb.
> Given 343’s logic so far I doubt we’ll see any corrections to the BS. And if by some miracle it happens it won’t be until the TU and that’s not until late Feb.
Lol ye, they think it’s fine. Their testing didn’t pick up much.
Fight fire with fire.
> Fight fire with fire.
Nah mate. Throw a bucket of water at it.
> > > Fight fire with fire.
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> > Nah mate. Throw a bucket of water at it.
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> That does not always work.
You’d have to be rather foolish to try that one.
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I can see it being in caimpaign only, as it was very useful in the campaign but dear god sometimes i wonder if they even have a real multiplayer team over there at 343. Or anybody around there with common sense. They really gave you the capability to spawn with a one shot kill weapon? The PP is questionable but good god that is just ridiculous. A gun that actually can be fired twice for two easy kills… wow
What makes me even more mad is in dominion you can see a BR spawn in Exile. Like SERIOUSLY what kind of joke is this. Maybe 343 are just huge trolls trying to crush our dreams. Maybe not. Whatever.
I can wreak faces with B.S. but using it makes me feel so dirty I can’t see myself mastering it any time soon… But something tells me I should spam the yoink out of it while its easy to master… Either people will get better at countering it or it will be nerfed. Master it now!
Boltshot is dumb.
I could see it being designed to be more powerful than the magnum but not have the ability to scope, making it a close range, last resort secondary. As it is, it’s beyond stupid.
Do they know that the Boltshot is overpowered? How long does it to fix something like that? I remember it being harder to hit people with the pistol when the game came out, now it seems they increased the spread without decreasing the power. Maybe it’s just me though. I died probably 20 times last game to the Boltshot pistol. I know there are obvious ways to avoid it but their whole team was camping. I walked around one of the corners and THREE charges were shot at me. It is supposed to be a side arm except it’s being used as a main weapon. Please fix this soon, it is becoming unbearable.
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Yes the BS is a OSK and has a range farther than a shotgun or SS, however the BS’s RoF for such a shot is less than that of a boomstick variant and takes time to charge.
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The BS is an anti-infantry specific weapon that is near useless against vehicles and requires short range or shieldless enemies to be effective with it.
The PP is an anti-everything assister and can assist in a headshot kill from much farther than the BS can OSK, can also allow for overcharged-shot+melee instakills and can disable vehicles.
Using the HLS, PV and Hologram, one is nowhere near at a disadvantage to a BS user. -
It doesn’t help the cause that players spew out contradictions and lies. When players claim they’re victims of weapons that they’re positive against, and when announcers don’t call the game as is: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst178614_BLOG--The-Halo-Council-s-Top-5-Halo-4.aspx, then it doesn’t help to claim something is bad/OP’d.
4)I personally think the BS should fire all 10 shots in 1 OC-shot that consumes actual ammo in reserve in the “mag.”, that gains greater spread but maintains the same range with 4 “pellets” causing death/disintegration to an unshielded enemy and 5 taking down the shields. That way the OC shot is more useful only with the Ammo Mod and sparingly used before being tossed when normally spawned with. It also means it’s capable of OSK-ing still, yet it requires critical short range, or pre-damage from a 'nade or primary weapon first, or teammate help, etc to be used from ranges that seem “ridiculous”.
I however will not use sloppy reflexes or situational mistakes as a reason for why the BS should be “nerfed.” I certainly won’t claim I’m a victim of something I appear to be very effective with.
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Best solutions I heard
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reduce range by 30%
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require atleast 6 bullets for an overcharge to kill, anything smaller barely removes shields. Making that second kill require a melee
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fires all 10 shots per overcharge, cools down 5% faster and reloads 5% (needed because a reload will be required a cool down and reload will be needed after every overcharge)
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add wider spread for over charge (similar to range nerf)
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louder charge noise and glow effect. Charging becomes brighter for PV. A person using PV and bolt shot has slight view obstructed by his growing overcharge, also enemies using PV can easily recognize it as a charging BS.
I am more in favor of 1, 4 and 5.
I think the boltshot can be fixed, all 343i has to do it reduce the range of the boltshot charge range.
> 1) Yes the BS is a OSK and has a range farther than a shotgun or SS, however the BS’s RoF for such a shot is less than that of a boomstick variant and takes time to charge.
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> 2) The BS is an anti-infantry specific weapon that is near useless against vehicles and requires short range or shieldless enemies to be effective with it.
> The PP is an anti-everything assister and can assist in a headshot kill from much farther than the BS can OSK, can also allow for overcharged-shot+melee instakills and can disable vehicles.
> Using the HLS, PV and Hologram, one is nowhere near at a disadvantage to a BS user.
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> 3) It doesn’t help the cause that players spew out contradictions and lies. When players claim they’re victims of weapons that they’re positive against, and when announcers don’t call the game as is: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst178614_BLOG--The-Halo-Council-s-Top-5-Halo-4.aspx, then it doesn’t help to claim something is bad/OP’d.
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> 4)I personally think the BS should fire all 10 shots in 1 OC-shot that consumes actual ammo in reserve in the “mag.”, that gains greater spread but maintains the same range with 4 “pellets” causing death/disintegration to an unshielded enemy and 5 taking down the shields. That way the OC shot is more useful only with the Ammo Mod and sparingly used before being tossed when normally spawned with. It also means it’s capable of OSK-ing still, yet it requires critical short range, or pre-damage from a 'nade or primary weapon first, or teammate help, etc to be used from ranges that seem “ridiculous”.
> I however will not use sloppy reflexes or situational mistakes as a reason for why the BS should be “nerfed.” I certainly won’t claim I’m a victim of something I appear to be very effective with.
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> 5) I’m moving this to the Matchmaking forums. The matchmaking forums will be housing discussions for Halo 4 matchmaking. This includes matters related to MP-sandbox mechanics.
>
> For more information why this thread is being moved, please read this for a further explanation. and as always, please feel free to ask questions if you have any.
> https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst174757_Matchmaking--Why-was-my-thread-moved.aspx
Thanks for the long reply. I know I could have used better reasons as to why it should be altered. But the way the weapon stands right now, still being to OSK people with only one projectile left, is just idiotic to me. I do agree on how a charged shot should make you reload. But to launch this gun as it is now, I don’t get it.