The Birth And Death of Halo

Games Other Halo
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Pleas read the intire post and realize were all on the same side.
And remember Need and Want are 2 diffrent things

November 15, 1991 my birthdate.
November 15, 2001 Halo’s birthdate.

It was conceived in the minds of great Bungie employes, and on 11/15/1991 it was born from boxs shipped to game retailers all over the world… And on 11/15/01 it also began to die…

NOW 11 years later “Halo’s on its death bed”, says MLG Co-Owner Sunndance DeGiovanni ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwEF8gW5VsE )… A wise forum member once said a casual gamer can play a competitive game and have fun, but a competitive gamer cant play a casual game and have fun… But he forgot to mention that a casual gamer also has the ability to play a casual game and have fun aswell. Meaning that no matter how competitive the game is casual will still play it…

Reasons Halo 3 and Halo 2 did so good with population numbers compared to Reach is becouse there was a ranked section (competitive gamers)and a social section (casual gamers)giving the community an option to try there -Yoink!-ing thumbs off or just play for fun. And to some people trying your -Yoink!-ing thumbs off is there fun…
Halo Reach is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. The hardest tryhards in the world of Halo or the young 10 year olds that deserve not to be yelled at for not being so hot at the game. There needs to be that devider within halo the ability to choose…

A breakdown of Halo terms if not known:
Noob = A person who cant play the game becous he knows very little about the game.
BadKid or BK = A person who plays the game consistantly but sucks at at it, but doesnt mean he’ll always be a BK neither will a Noob always be a Noob.
A Random = A person you no nothing about. Doesnt mean hes bad, noob, or beast he could be any of the three.
Beast = That person that you never forget as a Halo player, whos so good it makes you mad or excited!

With these terms out of the way lets get down to bisness shall we?
Once you stop being a Noob you can no longer go back to being a Noob. But if your a Beast you might be a BK to another Beast. Meaning there a diffrent levels of skill and yes it is posible to lose skill and it is posible to gane skill or you youself might stay at a standstill and every one else gets better…

So the point is that people change one day you might want to be a competitive gamer one day you might wanna be a casual gamer and right now Halo Reach is pure casual.

And yes 1-50 is the best ranking system. People say they dont like the 1-50 system becous they play with randoms and go positive but dont rank up becous there teamates are BKs.
So stop playing with Randoms and play with freinds or play Lone Wolves or another FFA type playlist hence the word [Lone] meaning theres nobody there to hold you back but yourself and guess what you can reach your highest level. And if you say screw Lone Wolves to than go play Social were it doesnt matter anyway. Wich is what Reach is.
Now on the other hand Halo Reachs way or Ranking is perfect for FFAs simply becous its just you and yourself being ranked on what you can do as an Indavidual.

So in my opinion there needs to be a ranked section and a social section, 50/50 its like good and evil there needs to be a balance to much of anything is bad and thats the only way to save Halo from its downfall.

Mark in the pole if you feal Halo 4 needs to be 100% Social, Ranked or Both

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Halo fans are so dramatic about sequels. Everything is going to be ok…

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No disrespect about you or the effort you put into this thread, OP, but people have cried the death of Halo since the second installment.

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Your terms are pretty arbitrary by the way.

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Yes I know what you mean, and I’ve been around that long. I was there through every transition but none are a scary as the coming ones.

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just because the co owner of mlg says halo is dead doesnt mean he is right you shouldnt always appeal to the authority

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ar·bi·trar·y
1.Based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

Reason it may seem as so is becouse im saying we need both.

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Most of what you described are things that don’t really matter. To me at least. Some people get so worked up over being matched up with people who suck, I personally can’t comprehend having such a strong reaction to a public game. Of course that’s going to happen. People who suck are still going to try to get better, and they’re not going to just stick to social and stay ‘in their place’ as some pro xXx13g17xXx players would expect.

Should Halo 4 have a better ranking system? Yes. I’m sure it’s become apparent that no one really likes Reach’s. Does it entirely matter? Not really. Even if you do have a better ranking system, you will still get matched with people who suck to a certain degree. Someone will always have to fill the bottom slot on the post game report, no?

My last point, all you talked about was multiplayer. Should Halo 4’s multiplayer suck that bad, there’s still enough people who only care about Campaign to keep the series going, as well as loyal fans who will buy the games regardless. So in this scenario, Halo 4’s multiplayer sucks and everyone’s super mad, people will still buy Halo 5 regardless. They could then play multiplayer and report back to those who hated Halo 4’s, bringing in more people yet again.

In the end, this argument is a bit trivial to begin with. Mostly considering I don’t understand the MLG crowd at all. I play because it’s fun, not because the fate of Earth depends on it.

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It took all that just to just to say “Halo 4 needs ranked and social”? Time to go write a book OP. =P

I agree with having both options so that mostly everyone (nit pickers and elitists are never happy) can get the most out of Halo 4.

Ranked and social needs to return with a trueskill system that works and matches on similarly skilled opponents, rather match players randomly without taking skill into consideration.

Halo 4 isn’t the death of the series though.

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He say’d its dieing. Not that its dead. He makes money off the game so of any he would notice the decline in revinew from it.

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> He say’d its dieing. Not that its dead. He makes money off the game so of any he would notice the decline in revinew from it.

reach did amazing in terms of sales its the mm population thats the problem right now
majority of the fanbase bought the game and then after a month realized they hated it and stopped playing but that didnt affect sales at all

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:slight_smile: I know right its somtimes hard to get your point across to our Halo peers. Thanks for the post dude.

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I’m not sure I understand why people keep saying, oh Halo 4 will be the death of the series, oh Halo is dieing. I also dont understand why I keep seeing the same things be said over and over, when we know nothing about how the ranking and the playlists will work out in Halo 4 as they are keeping most underwraps. The 1-50 system had a ton of flaws, and you cant just tell people to go play with their friends only and such thats simply put very lame. If anything we should be working to improve the community and thin out the ones who ruin the gaming experience.

Halo 4 will not be the death of the series, and could perhaps be the greatest addition to it and the universe. I’m a bit tired of people trying to compare bungie and 343, bungie did several things wrong during their go at the universe and while they will always be the creators it doesnt mean someone cant move the series forward in a great way. So give it a shot, its obvious 343 care deeply about the series and I’m sure in some ways microsoft does themselves its not always about money when its your life, job, thats on the line.

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> ar·bi·trar·y
> 1.Based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
>
> Reason it may seem as so is becouse im saying we need both.

Refering to your bizarre insistance of using noob, BK and your other ridiciulous names for players. All that does is divide the community even more, a bad idea when trying to save a franchise through it’s community.

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> > ar·bi·trar·y
> > 1.Based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
> >
> > Reason it may seem as so is becouse im saying we need both.
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> Refering to your bizarre insistance of using noob, BK and your other ridiciulous names for players. All that does is divide the community even more, a bad idea when trying to save a franchise through it’s community.

These are not my terms nore did I say that I use them. There “Halo” terms and if you havnt heard any of them before its hard to tell if you even play Halo.

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> These are not my terms nore did I say that I use them. There “Halo” terms and if you havnt heard any of them before its hard to tell if you even play Halo.

They aren’t necessary terms whatsoever. I’m well aware of their use and see them for the stupidity they breed. I have been playing Halo since the beginning too, don’t make such assumptions, they don’t help your case at all.

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> > These are not my terms nore did I say that I use them. There “Halo” terms and if you havnt heard any of them before its hard to tell if you even play Halo.
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> They aren’t necessary terms whatsoever. I’m well aware of their use and see them for the stupidity they breed. I have been playing Halo since the beginning too, don’t make such assumptions, they don’t help your case at all.

i agree these so called halo terms i have never even heard before. tell me where did you hear these terms because i doubt the terms are used by a large percentage of the community

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> i agree these so called halo terms i have never even heard before. tell me where did you hear these terms because i doubt the terms are used by a large percentage of the community

They are fairly common in the community, but the only people who use them liberally are those with inflated egos and superiority complexes. They are meant to demean, but of course the OP knows that, right?

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> > > These are not my terms nore did I say that I use them. There “Halo” terms and if you havnt heard any of them before its hard to tell if you even play Halo.
> >
> > They aren’t necessary terms whatsoever. I’m well aware of their use and see them for the stupidity they breed. I have been playing Halo since the beginning too, don’t make such assumptions, they don’t help your case at all.
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> i agree these so called halo terms i have never even heard before. tell me where did you hear these terms because i doubt the terms are used by a large percentage of the community

See this is the problem! Who cares about the terms! We need to focus on the game!

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> > > > These are not my terms nore did I say that I use them. There “Halo” terms and if you havnt heard any of them before its hard to tell if you even play Halo.
> > >
> > > They aren’t necessary terms whatsoever. I’m well aware of their use and see them for the stupidity they breed. I have been playing Halo since the beginning too, don’t make such assumptions, they don’t help your case at all.
> >
> > i agree these so called halo terms i have never even heard before. tell me where did you hear these terms because i doubt the terms are used by a large percentage of the community
>
> See this is the problem! Who cares about the terms! We need to focus on the game!

i agree we need to focus on the game but why put out these useless terms and then accuse someone of being ignorant about halo. But yes i think the community needs to focus on the game instead of petty things