The title really does say it all. Let’s make a super small map, where you only need one capture, (the monument) and then make it incredibly easy to farm kills. Wonderful idea! When they have both armories, the only direction they can run is right at us! “Goddamnit, Johnson, that’d wonderful!” The only thing that makes this map even relevant is the covenant kills for commendations. Give us a map that isn’t a -Yoinking!- spawn trap off the start. Thanks for nothing, yet again, 343i.
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> The title really does say it all. Let’s make a super small map, where you only need one capture, (the monument) and then make it incredibly easy to farm kills. Wonderful idea! When they have both armories, the only direction they can run is right at us! “Goddamnit, Johnson, that’d wonderful!” The only thing that makes this map even relevant is the covenant kills for commendations. Give us a map that isn’t a -Yoinking!- spawn trap off the start. Thanks for nothing, yet again, 343i.
Noctus is probably the second best map in warzone. It’s pretty hard for a team to lock it down completely. Arc on the other hand is awful.
People really overrate the importance of the monument. Even if it’s well defended a team can basically get stuck in there.
Capping both garages is vastly superior. everyone whith a grain of knowledge knows that. simply because of 3 things.
2 bases give more points than one
the monument is a pain to defend because you are surrounded
the garages offer the ability to attack the enemies from both sides while providing reasonable acces to bosses.
its in my opinion a bad map, it has potential but it doesnt live up to it due to its small size. if it would be a map like odst or even a portion of it. with streets and buildings etc. then it would be amazing.
I hate Apex 7 more than Noctus. Apex 7 is a map where you cannot use power weapons efficiently. If a team gets Spire, and are decent, 99% of the time they will win. There are less access points into Spire than there are into Monument.
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> I hate Apex 7 more than Noctus. Apex 7 is a map where you cannot use power weapons efficiently. If a team gets Spire, and are decent, 99% of the time they will win. There are less access points into Spire than there are into Monument.
Agreed, vehicles are impossible to use due to the terrain and all the hiding spots, and there is really no good spot for sniping on the map.
Noctus on the other hand,supports everything; vehicles,snipers and BRs,even if you don’t have the monument,there are many opening that you can snipe poeple in it.
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> People really overrate the importance of the monument. Even if it’s well defended a team can basically get stuck in there.
True
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> I hate Apex 7 more than Noctus. Apex 7 is a map where you cannot use power weapons efficiently. If a team gets Spire, and are decent, 99% of the time they will win. There are less access points into Spire than there are into Monument.
Apex is the most balanced map, of the four, Noctus is second. It isn’t that hard to route a team from the spire, especially if you have a banshee on your side. I do wish there were more room in the canyons though, especially in a scorpion it feels claustrophobic.
Apex is my favorite based upon the whole design and shape of it. And I like that it helps holding the Spire, but it is possible to take it back if coordinated well. What I don’t like about March on Stormbreak is that it starts out with a legendary boss. That bothers me for some reason. Anyone else have thoughts on that?
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> Capping both garages is vastly superior. everyone whith a grain of knowledge knows that. simply because of 3 things.
> 2 bases give more points than one
> the monument is a pain to defend because you are surrounded
> the garages offer the ability to attack the enemies from both sides while providing reasonable acces to bosses.
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> its in my opinion a bad map, it has potential but it doesnt live up to it due to its small size. if it would be a map like odst or even a portion of it. with streets and buildings etc. then it would be amazing.
What? No! Monument has only four major entrances, if twelve people can’t defend four entrances they need to rethink how they play…
Plus you are for the most part defended from vehicles both air craft and land
And most of the bosses spawn near here too.monument is a great place to hold down
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> > Capping both garages is vastly superior. everyone whith a grain of knowledge knows that. simply because of 3 things.
> > 2 bases give more points than one
> > the monument is a pain to defend because you are surrounded
> > the garages offer the ability to attack the enemies from both sides while providing reasonable acces to bosses.
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> > its in my opinion a bad map, it has potential but it doesnt live up to it due to its small size. if it would be a map like odst or even a portion of it. with streets and buildings etc. then it would be amazing.
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> What? No! Monument has only four major entrances, if twelve people can’t defend four entrances they need to rethink how they play…
> Plus you are for the most part defended from vehicles both air craft and land
> And most of the bosses spawn near here too.monument is a great place to hold down
7, the two bridges, the two man cannons, the two ramps, and aerial insertion through the top.
Of course, you can defend Monument with 12 people. But that’d be ridiculous. All your vehicular support spawns clear back at home base, the enemy team can spot every single boss without a problem, and while you’re at monument the enemy team will have rapid vehicle insertion and 90% map control if they spawn snipers. That last 10% being in Monument.
So no, Monument isn’t all that great like having the other middle structures on the other maps… Fortress, Garage, or Spire. Monument is the worst center control out of them all, simply because it will get you slaughtered if that’s all you have.
Farming is easiest on Escape from Arc once they take your armory your screwed. Other teams doesn’t even need to touch garage just need both armories and they have you stuck at your base.