I was just conversing with my friend about Halo 5 and what the story is, hence all the story-driven posts. I don’t like boosting the hype for this game on the off chance that it’ll fail, but I also have a rule not to talk about Halo 4 on here that I break from time to time, so -Yoink- it, I’ll do it anyway.
What if, theoretically, Master Chief visited Sanghelios before the events of Halo 5. We can all agree this is plausible, so just stick with it for a moment. If he did, in fact, go to Sanghelios, this changes everything between Locke and the Arbiter, because the Arbiter would have all the answers already. Therefore, the most he could do to help John in his quest would be to keep a close eye on Locke for him. Any advantage Locke might think he has over Thel would be nullified here.
I had already expected the Arbiter to stay a few step ahead of Locke the whole time, and I’ve made posts about it before. I say Locke is on a whole new level of arrogant thinking he can play both Master Chief and the Arbiter, and especially the Arbiter. Because the Arbiter knows Master Chief. Not only that, we’re talking about the guy who bulldozed through human forces all the way up to Reach, and, subsequently, the Covenant. He has years of experience over both Master Chief and Agent Locke, and he lacks Agent Locke’s greatest weakness: arrogance. He was already going to win this fight, but if he’s already made contact with Chief, think of what this predominant master and leader could do with that edge. I don’t think any card Locke is holding back up his sleeve is going to make a difference. Not against the Arbiter
Where are you getting arrogance from? The only time that we’ve actually met Locke is in Nightfall and he was the furthest thing from arrogant. He didn’t seem arrogant in the H2A cutscenes either, just ready for the mission. The trailers were clearly not representative of either Locke or Chief’s personalities either.
Locke isn’t going to be out there to kill Chief and Arbiter. If there is conflict between Chief and Locke it likely will not lead into outright confrontation since they both would have a common objective. Locke said his mission is to find Chief and bring him back and trailers seem to indicate that humanity needs him to fight a threat that is more dangerous than anything they’ve ever faced. AKA the giant Forerunner Owl thing.
You really have a misguided view of arrogance if you really think what Locke was displaying in the bookend cutscenes of TMCC was arrogance.
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> Where are you getting arrogance from? The only time that we’ve actually met Locke is in Nightfall and he was the furthest thing from arrogant. He didn’t seem arrogant in the H2A cutscenes either, just ready for the mission. The trailers were clearly not representative of either Locke or Chief’s personalities either.
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> Locke isn’t going to be out there to kill Chief and Arbiter. If there is conflict between Chief and Locke it likely will not lead into outright confrontation since they both would have a common objective. Locke said his mission is to find Chief and bring him back and trailers seem to indicate that humanity needs him to fight a threat that is more dangerous than anything they’ve ever faced. AKA the giant Forerunner Owl thing.
well id be inclined to believe that if I didn’t watch Locke put a gun to an injured chief ready to shoot first and ask question later. I agree he didn’t seem all too arrogant, but even though those trailers seemed to be simply symbolic (representing the fact that both of these titans are being played by ONI which results in their readiness to take each other out) I still think he’s ready to kill chief, not take him home. Remember, this is all the grand scheme of ONI trying to REPLACE Chief. Putting Locke on a pedestal aka defeating the “traitor”, the once great conquering hero who “turned on humanity” (imagine hand gestures for those quotes as we all know this whole Chief being a traitor thing is pure ONI BS) would look really good to the public and justify murdering the man who saved the galaxy multiple times. Chief knows too much, he’s not an ONI puppet, and that’s why they want to replace him with one of their own. But that’s where I’m confused, according to nightfall, Locke wasn’t a big fan of ONI. You’d think he’d avoid helping them rise to power.
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> Where are you getting arrogance from? The only time that we’ve actually met Locke is in Nightfall and he was the furthest thing from arrogant. He didn’t seem arrogant in the H2A cutscenes either, just ready for the mission. The trailers were clearly not representative of either Locke or Chief’s personalities either.
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> Locke isn’t going to be out there to kill Chief and Arbiter. If there is conflict between Chief and Locke it likely will not lead into outright confrontation since they both would have a common objective. Locke said his mission is to find Chief and bring him back and trailers seem to indicate that humanity needs him to fight a threat that is more dangerous than anything they’ve ever faced. AKA the giant Forerunner Owl thing.
I agree. By the middle of the campaign, Locke will have MUCH more things to worry about than just trying to capture the Chief…
I don’t really have anything to add but I’ll give you a like for making a thread about something other than sprint or 343i ruining Halo.
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> > Where are you getting arrogance from? The only time that we’ve actually met Locke is in Nightfall and he was the furthest thing from arrogant. He didn’t seem arrogant in the H2A cutscenes either, just ready for the mission. The trailers were clearly not representative of either Locke or Chief’s personalities either.
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> > Locke isn’t going to be out there to kill Chief and Arbiter. If there is conflict between Chief and Locke it likely will not lead into outright confrontation since they both would have a common objective. Locke said his mission is to find Chief and bring him back and trailers seem to indicate that humanity needs him to fight a threat that is more dangerous than anything they’ve ever faced. AKA the giant Forerunner Owl thing.
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> well id be inclined to believe that if I didn’t watch Locke put a gun to an injured chief ready to shoot first and ask question later. I agree he didn’t seem all too arrogant, but even though those trailers seemed to be simply symbolic (representing the fact that both of these titans are being played by ONI which results in their readiness to take each other out) I still think he’s ready to kill chief, not take him home. Remember, this is all the grand scheme of ONI trying to REPLACE Chief. Putting Locke on a pedestal aka defeating the “traitor”, the once great conquering hero who “turned on humanity” (imagine hand gestures for those quotes as we all know this whole Chief being a traitor thing is pure ONI BS) would look really good to the public and justify murdering the man who saved the galaxy multiple times. Chief knows too much, he’s not an ONI puppet, and that’s why they want to replace him with one of their own. But that’s where I’m confused, according to nightfall, Locke wasn’t a big fan of ONI. You’d think he’d avoid helping them rise to power.
I don’t think that means anything since Chief put a gun to an injured Locke in the same manner.
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> I don’t really have anything to add but I’ll give you a like for making a thread about something other than sprint or 343i ruining Halo.
He’s never made threads about 343 ruining Halo.
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I wasn’t referring to him personally.
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> > Where are you getting arrogance from? The only time that we’ve actually met Locke is in Nightfall and he was the furthest thing from arrogant. He didn’t seem arrogant in the H2A cutscenes either, just ready for the mission. The trailers were clearly not representative of either Locke or Chief’s personalities either.
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> > Locke isn’t going to be out there to kill Chief and Arbiter. If there is conflict between Chief and Locke it likely will not lead into outright confrontation since they both would have a common objective. Locke said his mission is to find Chief and bring him back and trailers seem to indicate that humanity needs him to fight a threat that is more dangerous than anything they’ve ever faced. AKA the giant Forerunner Owl thing.
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> well id be inclined to believe that if I didn’t watch Locke put a gun to an injured chief ready to shoot first and ask question later. I agree he didn’t seem all too arrogant, but even though those trailers seemed to be simply symbolic (representing the fact that both of these titans are being played by ONI which results in their readiness to take each other out) I still think he’s ready to kill chief, not take him home. Remember, this is all the grand scheme of ONI trying to REPLACE Chief. Putting Locke on a pedestal aka defeating the “traitor”, the once great conquering hero who “turned on humanity” (imagine hand gestures for those quotes as we all know this whole Chief being a traitor thing is pure ONI BS) would look really good to the public and justify murdering the man who saved the galaxy multiple times. Chief knows too much, he’s not an ONI puppet, and that’s why they want to replace him with one of their own. But that’s where I’m confused, according to nightfall, Locke wasn’t a big fan of ONI. You’d think he’d avoid helping them rise to power.
I think the events at Nightfall have shaped his personality. I don’t think he will be so noble as he was then, and dialogue suggests it. In interviews with Mike Colter, he said Locke would be a “completely different character in the game.” He described him as young and eager to succeed, etc. I’m definitely getting arrogant vibes and after the live action trailer, I think it’s a fair assumption, but of course we can disagree
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No, I have. You can hold that against me
I think it would hilarious if Locke finds Chief and blue team and pulls guns on them with his squad, then we hear a bunch of energy swords getting activated in the background, and Arbiter pulls the double cross on Locke and helps Chief out.
I don’t think the chief pointing a gun at Locke and Locke pointing a gun at chief commercials are canon. They are just to set the vibe.
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> I don’t think the chief pointing a gun at Locke and Locke pointing a gun at chief commercials are canon. They are just to set the vibe.
But of course, the Halo community just repressed that again, for the 50th time…
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> I don’t think the chief pointing a gun at Locke and Locke pointing a gun at chief commercials are canon. They are just to set the vibe.
No, of course they aren’t. We can still learn about his personality from it
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> I don’t really have anything to add but I’ll give you a like for making a thread about something other than sprint or 343i ruining Halo.
I agree, now let’s not go any further with that subject
Since most Sanghelion leaders got to their first tastes of power by surviving multiple assassination attempts to prove their cunning is worthy of leadership, it would be very disappointing if the Arbiter wasn’t playing Locke like a fiddle for the Chief.
It’d be disappointing if Locke, as such a researcher of prey as he is, didn’t know this to be true either.
The plan appears to be to strike swift and directly for the Chief… Target fixation. Know that all paths are dangerous and it is the destination that matters… Burn all paths behind as to ensure only the destination remains. No one can go back…
The Arbiter is likely going to be very crossed with ONI by the end of H5 for all that Locke will burn.