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The Precursors created many technological species, including humanity and the Forerunners. But the roots of the Flood may be found in an act of enormous barbarity, carried out beyond our galaxy ten million years before…
Because of that barbarism, a greater evil looms. Only the Ur-Didact and the Librarian–husband and wife pushed into desperate conflict–hold the keys to a solution.
That is taken from the Wiki for the 3rd and yet to be released book in the Forerunner Saga. Here’s the link: Halo: Silentium | Halo Alpha | Fandom
Now, why is this important? Because it specifically states that the barbarism the Precursors used in creating the Flood created a greater evil. The Flood is the greatest evil we have known to date. I don’t believe this “Ancient Evil” is the Didact, I thought it was the Precursor. But, maybe it is the result of the Precursors creating the Flood…hmm…
nice catch man.
It’s interesting to say the least, but I can see it playing out in Halo 5. Not Halo 4.
I would have to agree. There is quite a bit of new information and story being revealed in this game and it will be hard enough for those who don’t read the books or do the research to process it all. Throwing in something else would throw everything off-balance. However, all we know is that an Ancient Evil is awakening. It may be at the very end of the game, leaving us wondering what this Ancient Evil truly is until Halo 5. It would all play out in the next two games but be introduced in the 4th.
Ummmm… Everything has pointed towards the Didact (most likley Ur-Didact). The Primordial was killed by Bornstellar, and all Flood outbreaks have been contained (as of 2553). Also,
The Didact is confirmed in Halo 4. He’s (100,000 years) ancient, and evil (sent Humanity into the Stone Age), so yeah.
Even if it is the Didact, I still wouldn’t call him “evil” perse. He is more of a tragic figure when you take a good look at what he has been through.
> Ummmm… Everything has pointed towards the Didact (most likley Ur-Didact). The Primordial was killed by Bornstellar, and all Flood outbreaks have been contained (as of 2553). Also,
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> The Didact is confirmed in Halo 4. He’s (100,000 years) ancient, and evil (sent Humanity into the Stone Age), so yeah.
But I’m saying the Ancient Evil is not the the Primordial or the Flood. Bornstellar does kill the Primordial but there is a greater evil still out there. This evil was created as a result of the Flood’s creation. So even if the Flood is contained, this even greater evil is not.
As for the Didact, he may be ancient by human terms but not be the Halo verse terms. Still that argument is defendable. But, he experiences deep remorse for what he did to the humans after the Human-Forerunner war, which makes it hard to say he is evil for doing so.
What if the Ancient Evil are the Humans themselves?
> What if the Ancient Evil are the Humans themselves?
I think that may be too philosophical of a concept. Besides…every species is “evil”. Why humans would be more inherently evil I don’t know.
> What if the Ancient Evil are the Humans themselves?
While I doubt it, that would be an awesome twist. And there really isn’t anything saying that isn’t possible.
At a recent gaming event here in NZ, i got the chance to speak to Sally Huang, producer of the Main campaign in Halo 4, and she confirmed the Didact to indeed be the Ancient Evil. When i asked if it was Bornstellar or Ur, she simply smiled and said its “the Didact from the greg Bear books” lol, so i couldnt find that out. I Did also find out however that the Prometheans are “inspired” by greg bears depiction, and they are indeed the same Prometheans from the books, their appearance is just 343’s depiction of how they should look etc…
> At a recent gaming event here in NZ, i got the chance to speak to Sally Huang, producer of the Main campaign in Halo 4, and she confirmed the Didact to indeed be the Ancient Evil. When i asked if it was Bornstellar or Ur, she simply smiled and said its “the Didact from the greg Bear books” lol, so i couldnt find that out. I Did also find out however that the Prometheans are “inspired” by greg bears depiction, and they are indeed the same Prometheans from the books, their appearance is just 343’s depiction of how they should look etc…
The Promethean Knights are different than the Promethean Warrior-Servants of the Forerunner Era.
I feel that Silentium will tell us what the forerunners found out about the flood and precursors towards the end of their reign. As for H4, when we see the Didact, I have the feeling he wont be looking to help Humans, but continue where he left off prior to the Forerunner downfall, why else would he be in this shelled off shield world?
If the Librarian and Didact had a “conflict” as that Silentium book info indicates, maybe they bumped heads on the idea of the Librarian trusting in humanity while the Didact thought differently.
As I said, I think the book will spill the beans so to speak, as where H4 will set up the plot as a whole.
> > Ummmm… Everything has pointed towards the Didact (most likley Ur-Didact). The Primordial was killed by Bornstellar, and all Flood outbreaks have been contained (as of 2553). Also,
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> > The Didact is confirmed in Halo 4. He’s (100,000 years) ancient, and evil (sent Humanity into the Stone Age), so yeah.
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> But I’m saying the Ancient Evil is not the the Primordial or the Flood. Bornstellar does kill the Primordial but there is a greater evil still out there. This evil was created as a result of the Flood’s creation. So even if the Flood is contained, this even greater evil is not.
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> As for the Didact, he may be ancient by human terms but not be the Halo verse terms. Still that argument is defendable. But, he experiences deep remorse for what he did to the humans after the Human-Forerunner war, which makes it hard to say he is evil for doing so.
Unless there are precursers (which I highly doubt), Forerunners were the next evil thing to Humans (Not in Haloverse terms). Primordium and the Anniversary Terminals made it clear that the Didact would continue to oppose Humanity
> You and I are brothers in many ways… not least in that we faced the Didact before, and face him now, and perhaps ever after (Primordium, pg 379)
> But what I would not give to have earned a single company of Prometheans here right now. They would most certainly restore order with their trademark lethality, although…that would mean he would have to be here, too. And without the Librarian around to temper his rage, well… These Reclaimers might almost prefer the Flood(The Maw Anniversary Terminal)
> At a recent gaming event here in NZ, i got the chance to speak to Sally Huang, producer of the Main campaign in Halo 4, and she confirmed the Didact to indeed be the Ancient Evil. When i asked if it was Bornstellar or Ur, she simply smiled and said its “the Didact from the greg Bear books” lol, so i couldnt find that out. I Did also find out however that the Prometheans are “inspired” by greg bears depiction, and they are indeed the same Prometheans from the books, their appearance is just 343’s depiction of how they should look etc…
The Knights are not the Promethean Warrior-Servants from the books…
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> You and I are brothers in many ways… not least in that we faced the Didact before, and face him now, and perhaps ever after (Primordium, pg 379)
> But what I would not give to have earned a single company of Prometheans here right now. They would most certainly restore order with their trademark lethality, although…that would mean he would have to be here, too. And without the Librarian around to temper his rage, well… These Reclaimers might almost prefer the Flood
You mean Chakas right?
I’m convinced that humanity’s inherent evilness is the ancient evil.
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> You mean Chakas right?
Could be Chakas, could be Guilty Spark. I’m more convinced that it’s Guilty Spark, though. Chakas was used as a template for Guilty Spark, so he would still have Chakas’ memories
> The problems of my post. But even a fragment of-fragment, yes. Oh dear. Here it comes again (The Library Anniversary Terminal)
Then there’s this
I honestly think this greater evil will be resolved in the book - or it will trapped. What’s worse than the flood? It’s not the precursors, but a bi-product of the flood. An anti flood?
> > What if the Ancient Evil are the Humans themselves?
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> While I doubt it, that would be an awesome twist. And there really isn’t anything saying that isn’t possible.
It actually makes sense. What’s the first line of dialog we heard when Halo 4 was announced? Cortana telling Chief to wake up. Whereas we have no evidence the Didact was ever asleep.
> > At a recent gaming event here in NZ, i got the chance to speak to Sally Huang, producer of the Main campaign in Halo 4, and she confirmed the Didact to indeed be the Ancient Evil. When i asked if it was Bornstellar or Ur, she simply smiled and said its “the Didact from the greg Bear books” lol, so i couldnt find that out. I Did also find out however that the Prometheans are “inspired” by greg bears depiction, and they are indeed the same Prometheans from the books, their appearance is just 343’s depiction of how they should look etc…
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> The Knights are not the Promethean Warrior-Servants from the books…
Proof? Because ive heard straight from the campaign producers mouth otherwise… I said to her, the Prometheans in Greg Bears books wernt mechanical in any way, with the exception of thier armor, to which the reply was “well, the Forerunners have always been these semi-organic/mechanical beings”…