the "Ancient enemy"

Correct me if im wrong please, im not so good with all halo.

I was watching a terminal of Halo Cea, and the monitor said, " The Forerunner’ ancient enemy knew the cure of the flood." (not sure if its the exact words)

yes i know its the Forerunner trilogy.

The only enemy i can think of, that the Forerunners had, are the Precursors.(It would make sence because from what i heard, it was the precursors that made the flood. So only they would know the cure)

what do you guys think? (please dont flame)
Discuss?

Or i might be COMPLETELY wrong.

Actually the ancient humans had the cure too but destroyed it before they lost to the forerunners.

> Correct me if im wrong please, im not so good with all halo.
>
> I was watching a terminal of Halo Cea, and the monitor said, " The Forerunner’ ancient enemy knew the cure of the flood." (not sure if its the exact words)
>
> yes i know its the Forerunner trilogy.
>
> The only enemy i can think of, that the Forerunners had, are the Precursors.(It would make sence because from what i heard, it was the precursors that made the flood. So only they would know the cure)
>
> what do you guys think? (please dont flame)
> Discuss?
>
> Or i might be COMPLETELY wrong.

Ancient humanity knew the cure and took it with them into their graves.
Still, I do not believe the AE is ancient Humanity because, why in godsname would they attack their own kind (oké, kind of)? Wait I guess I just answered that, they are humans -_-

If you watch the last terminal, there is a ALMOST clear indication of who might be the enemy in Halo 4. This is speculation, but it seems that 343 Guilty Spark points out the enemy that awaits us in Halo 4.

For some reason, I think that the Flood are the ancient enemy, but, hey, we’ll all find out soon enough.

> If you watch the last terminal, there is a ALMOST clear indication of who might be the enemy in Halo 4. This is speculation, but it seems that 343 Guilty Spark points out the enemy that awaits us in Halo 4.

Please enough with the Didact nonsense.
I mean, the Didact actually felt sorry for fighting the humans in Cryptum after he learned that the Flood was real.
And on top of that Humanity was chosen to proceed the Forerunners.

im about to blow your mind:
prehistoric humans, that were more advanced than the humans of 2552, so advanced in fact that they created a cure to the flood.

but the only way to do it was to take over forerunner worlds and use them as firebases because the flood was so strong.

when the humans created a cure, the forerunner, angry that thier worlds had been taken, went on a genocidal campaign against the humans and their allies - the prophets.

the forerunners deevolved the humans and the prophets to the stone age, and placed the humans on a random world as punishment called erde-tyrene or in english - earth.

> im about to blow your mind:
> prehistoric humans, that were more advanced than the humans of 2552, so advanced in fact that they created a cure to the flood.
>
> but the only way to do it was to take over forerunner worlds and use them as firebases because the flood was so strong.
>
> when the humans created a cure, the forerunner, angry that thier worlds had been taken, went on a genocidal campaign against the humans and their allies - the prophets.
>
> the forerunners deevolved the humans and the prophets to the stone age, and placed the humans on a random world as punishment called erde-tyrene or in english - earth.

The planet wasn’t random, it was their planet of origin or so I recall.

> > im about to blow your mind:
> > prehistoric humans, that were more advanced than the humans of 2552, so advanced in fact that they created a cure to the flood.
> >
> > but the only way to do it was to take over forerunner worlds and use them as firebases because the flood was so strong.
> >
> > when the humans created a cure, the forerunner, angry that thier worlds had been taken, went on a genocidal campaign against the humans and their allies - the prophets.
> >
> > the forerunners deevolved the humans and the prophets to the stone age, and placed the humans on a random world as punishment called erde-tyrene or in english - earth.
>
> The planet wasn’t random, it was their planet of origin or so I recall.

erde-tyrene is not the human homeworld according to halo canon.

> > > im about to blow your mind:
> > > prehistoric humans, that were more advanced than the humans of 2552, so advanced in fact that they created a cure to the flood.
> > >
> > > but the only way to do it was to take over forerunner worlds and use them as firebases because the flood was so strong.
> > >
> > > when the humans created a cure, the forerunner, angry that thier worlds had been taken, went on a genocidal campaign against the humans and their allies - the prophets.
> > >
> > > the forerunners deevolved the humans and the prophets to the stone age, and placed the humans on a random world as punishment called erde-tyrene or in english - earth.
> >
> > The planet wasn’t random, it was their planet of origin or so I recall.
>
> erde-tyrene is not the human homeworld according to halo canon.

It is, but Chaun Hakkor was the center of their civilization.
I can search trough Cryptum and give you the page if you like.

so the ancient humans knew the cure aswell?

Yes But they took the cure to their graves.

> so the ancient humans knew the cure aswell?

As far as we know or actually speculate, The Precursors made the flood after the Precursor -Forerunner wars (funny how the Forerunners deemed Humans a violent Race.) as a last **** you to the Forerunners (yep its their fault). The humans found a “cure” but its actually the same as the Halo array but on a smaller scale, they had to sacrifice a big deal of their population ( 1/3 if I recall correctly) to kill the flood with a gene that destroys itself but also the flood supercell, still killing their hosts tough. Of course this better then the lets kill every damn sentient being in the galaxy plan.

In short, the humans kinda made a virus for a virus.

If the Precursors have a cure, I don’t know as they clearly intended for it to consume everything.

Precursors can travel from galaxy to galaxy. any chance they might come back from another galaxy? and take revenge?

> > > > im about to blow your mind:
> > > > prehistoric humans, that were more advanced than the humans of 2552, so advanced in fact that they created a cure to the flood.
> > > >
> > > > but the only way to do it was to take over forerunner worlds and use them as firebases because the flood was so strong.
> > > >
> > > > when the humans created a cure, the forerunner, angry that thier worlds had been taken, went on a genocidal campaign against the humans and their allies - the prophets.
> > > >
> > > > the forerunners deevolved the humans and the prophets to the stone age, and placed the humans on a random world as punishment called erde-tyrene or in english - earth.
> > >
> > > The planet wasn’t random, it was their planet of origin or so I recall.
> >
> > erde-tyrene is not the human homeworld according to halo canon.
>
> It is, but Chaun Hakkor was the center of their civilization.
> I can search trough Cryptum and give you the page if you like.

link me por favor

> Precursors can travel from galaxy to galaxy. any chance they might come back from another galaxy? and take revenge?

Due to the fact Greg Bear stated for Halo Primordium

“I’m having great fun working through the action and growing mysteries in Halo: Primordium, as humans engage in an epic odyssey across a damaged, war-torn Halo, facing the Flood, rogue AIs, and the stunning testament of the last Precursor…”

Last part, says enough.
Precursors are probably extinct.

> > > > > im about to blow your mind:
> > > > > prehistoric humans, that were more advanced than the humans of 2552, so advanced in fact that they created a cure to the flood.
> > > > >
> > > > > but the only way to do it was to take over forerunner worlds and use them as firebases because the flood was so strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > when the humans created a cure, the forerunner, angry that thier worlds had been taken, went on a genocidal campaign against the humans and their allies - the prophets.
> > > > >
> > > > > the forerunners deevolved the humans and the prophets to the stone age, and placed the humans on a random world as punishment called erde-tyrene or in english - earth.
> > > >
> > > > The planet wasn’t random, it was their planet of origin or so I recall.
> > >
> > > erde-tyrene is not the human homeworld according to halo canon.
> >
> > It is, but Chaun Hakkor was the center of their civilization.
> > I can search trough Cryptum and give you the page if you like.
>
> link me por favor

Page 112 for the center of their empire part.
Searching for the part about Erde-Tyrene

EDIT page 20, when Bornstellar asks his ancilla, you own me an apology, my friend.

I hate to say it, but if Earth is not the planet of origin of humanity, then this part of the Halo story-line is junk. Good science fiction shoudln’t contradict real science.

If humans evolved on some other planet and were only brought here around a hundred thousand years ago, then there would be no evolutionary relationship between humans and other animals on earth. There would also be no fossil record of human evolution on earth.

But of course both of those things are scientific facts. The fossil record of human evolution starts with monkey-like primates of around 25 million years ago, continues with gibbon-line primates of around 15 million years ago, splits into a hominid-exclusive line around 8 million years ago, and progresses through Ardipithecus, Australopithecus, -Yoink!- habilis, and so forth. We have modern humans (apparently both anatomically and behaviorally modern) by about 200,000 years ago.

The science-fiction idea that humans of 200,000 years ago created an advanced civilization is interesting and could (with some imagination) fit in with what we know about human evolution.

However, the idea that we evolved elsewhere and were only brought here 200-100 thousand years ago contradicts known science. It would disappoint me if the fiction of Halo was easily contradicted by known facts. It would mean that the authors of the Halo story line didn’t bother to do their homework.

> I hate to say it, but if Earth is not the planet of origin of humanity, then the whole Halo story-line is junk. Good science fiction shoudln’t contradict real science.
>
> If humans evolved on some other planet and were only brought here around a hundred thousand years ago, then there would be no evolutionary relationship between humans and other animals on earth. There would also be no fossil record of human evolution on earth.
>
> But of course both of those things are scientific facts. The fossil record of human evolution starts with monkey-like primates of around 25 million years ago, continues with gibbon-line primates of around 15 million years ago, splits into a hominid-exclusive line around 8 million years ago, and progresses through Ardipithecus, Australopithecus, -Yoink!- habilis, and so forth. We have modern humans (apparently both anatomically and behaviorally modern) by about 200,000 years ago.
>
> Moreover, humans are related in an observable way to every other form of life on earth. This can be demonstrated via comparative anatomy and genetics, with the African apes being our closest relatives.
>
> The science-fiction idea that humans of 200,000 years ago created an advanced civilization is interesting and could (with some imagination) fit in with what we know about human evolution.
>
> However, the idea that we evolved elsewhere and were only brought here 200-100 thousand years ago contradicts known science. It would disappoint me if the fiction of Halo was easily contradicted by known facts. It would mean that the authors of the Halo story line didn’t bother to do their homework.

what do you know.

the same way you look at the anthropologists of the 14th century, that thought the world was flat and approx: 3000 years old

is the way that the anthropologists of the 26th century look at you, trying to make assertions about evolution and alien life before first contact.

lol but for real, one day people will laugh at the brightest minds today and say “how could they have actually thought that the sun used hydrogen as fuel”

when they say “ancient ennemy” i think they refer to enemy’s of the humans not the forerunners. So here are the possibilities:

-forerunners
-ancient humans
-precursors?
-flood