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The key to aiming in this game is not the degree of skill, it’s the TV we play on. Yes, you read that correctly. Those with better TVs have an extremely distinct advantage opposed to those with larger or slower input TVs. But don’t smaller TVs with better input time always lend a slight advantage? Of course, but in H5 the advantage given to those with better TVs is absolutely enormous. So much so, that arena on high levels is completely unplayable on my crappy TV. Last night, I went to my friends house (he uses a great gaming monitor) to see if that was the issue with my aiming. Indeed it was, as I was able to compete on the high-onyx level with comfort, whereas with my crappy TV my shot feels shaky on Diamond 2.
Soooo the aiming on H5 greatly favors monitors opposed to crappy TVs, go and buy a monitor or get gud and adapt u scrub! NO! Why is this the case? Why fix what was never broken? The aiming in the beta was just fine, why change it? Sure, it might add to the skill gap, but the outrageous issue is that the it creates such a large division between player skill depending on the TV they use! It is completely absurd. Summary: buy a better TV or hope 343 is decent enough to fix this glaring issue.
P.S: I was banned for 3 days last night for making a prudent joke. That’s why I make this post on my old account.
-I switched to game mode last week, the difference it made was absolutely minimal
If you’re going to game on a TV and don’t want high input lag, don’t just buy your favorite looking TV out of the local retail store, instead you should look up reviews first. Rtings.com, AVforums, hdtvtest and displaylag.com will tell you how much input lag the TV has.
According to Displaylag.com the Samsung UN65JU7500 has the lowest tested input lag compared to other big screen TVs with gaming mode enabled of 17ms. Still though, gaming monitors like the BenQ XL2720Z have 10ms input lag.
Also, i’ll add that Response time is not the same as input lag.
You guys are sorely missing the point here. I shouldn’t have to buy a nice gaming monitor to be able to compete with above-average players in a damn videogame.
I agree i switched from a crap tv to a gaming monitor (not even a high end one) and upgraded Internet at the same time. It is so much smoother, I used to not be able to hang in diamond, now I can do very well in diamond and hang in onyx.
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> You guys are sorely missing the point here. I shouldn’t have to buy a nice gaming monitor to be able to compete with above-average players in a damn videogame.
Everything in life is like this. The more money you have the better equipment you can have and the better you can do at anything. That’s life.
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> > You guys are sorely missing the point here. I shouldn’t have to buy a nice gaming monitor to be able to compete with above-average players in a damn videogame.
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> Everything in life is like this. The more money you have the better equipment you can have and the better you can do at anything. That’s life.
I am inclined to agree with you. Those with more money can solve more problems with said money. But those with money get used to living with less issues and problems, they don’t confront the same hardships that people with lower income. So if it ever comes to playing on crappy tv’s they will not be able to adapt and we will rue the day.
Gentlemen Enjoy
Halo 5 doesn’t favor monitors over televisions. Simply having higher refresh rates on your display (i.e your friend’s “great gaming monitor”) can slightly increase player performance.
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> I am inclined to agree with you. Those with more money can solve more problems with said money. But those with money get used to living with less issues and problems, they don’t confront the same hardships that people with lower income. So if it ever comes to playing on crappy tv’s they will not be able to adapt and we will rue the day.
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Still sorely missing the point…
The magnitude of the difference between the two opposed to other FPS like CoD is ridiculous. in CoD I can enjoy ranked play, in H5 arena sucks booty bc of the colossal difference depending on what TV the player is using.
Now I’m going to make a very simple analogy to soccer for you fine chaps. Imagine if in order to thoroughly compete, kids had to buy the best $200 dollar cleats (gaming monitor). Now imagine soccer is a game that solely revolves around competitive play (ring a bell, anyone?). Now you get a bunch of kids who can’t afford the best pair of cleats (less fortunate kids who had to shell out money to even play H5 in the first place) and as a result both the popularity and population of soccer decreases all because of simple oversight (huge skill gap caused by crappy aiming mechanics).
Basketball, on the other hand, is a sport that can be played with any shoes (CoD BO3). As a result, the population and popularity of basketball skyrockets, and many soccer players ditch the sport for the better alternative.
It’s a shame people can’t think things through properly, isn’t it?
I’m seeing a growing number of people saying this lately - there’s been several threads about it in General Discussion over the last couple weeks. I honestly never had any idea that playing on my couch, on my TV, could even remotely hold me back. Guess I need to investigate things better before jumping in…
According to my crappy generic TV’s manual, there is no game mode. Crap.
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> Halo 5 doesn’t favor monitors over televisions. Simply having higher refresh rates on your display (i.e your friend’s “great gaming monitor”) can slightly increase player performance.
This right here! To add on to his point, you must also have the hardware that can utilize the refresh rate. Consoles will be set at the default value that they are programmed with. PCs can always scale up to or down the refresh rate that the monitor can reach and as such advertises “gaming”.
Response time is key and unfortunately most people dont always consider this factor when buying their video equipment.
I’m not sure how it works on Halo 5 since I think the aiming generally feels easier, but on the older games I used to insist on playing on a tube monitor, I always destroyed everybody on that thing while on a normal tv I would just be average. I used to be able to snipe like an aim bot! If having better aim means that much to you then definitely go for an old tube monitor, but for me unfortunately I don’t really feel the need to be top dog any more, so I just play on the standard TV in my living room.
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> I’m seeing a growing number of people saying this lately - there’s been several threads about it in General Discussion over the last couple weeks. I honestly never had any idea that playing on my couch, on my TV, could even remotely hold me back. Guess I need to investigate things better before jumping in…
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> According to my crappy generic TV’s manual, there is no game mode. Crap.
xD don’t worry bro I have it on mine and it didn’t do jack. If you don’t notice any major issues then you are probably golden for the most part. For me, the feel is nearly unbearable at times.
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> > Halo 5 doesn’t favor monitors over televisions. Simply having higher refresh rates on your display (i.e your friend’s “great gaming monitor”) can slightly increase player performance.
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> This right here! To add on to his point, you must also have the hardware that can utilize the refresh rate. Consoles will be set at the default value that they are programmed with. PCs can always scale up to or down the refresh rate that the monitor can reach and as such advertises “gaming”.
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> Response time is key and unfortunately most people dont always consider this factor when buying their video equipment.
^^ Indeed, although the equipment shouldn’t be as much of an issue. In CoD, the feel on flat screen is very smooth. Everyone said the H5 aiming in the beta was silky smooth, but they changed something for launch. Why the change? Why even mess with Halo’s proven aiming mechanics in the first place? I know 343 has their hands full with delivering game modes atm but it’s a shame because this issue could have been entirely prevented by sticking with the proven.
TVs matter when gaming. Specifically refresh rate, resolution, and picture settings.
Someone playing at 1080p will be able to see you twice as far away as someone with 720p.
Someone with 60 FPS will see twice as much of your movements as someone with 30FPS.
And someone with optimal picture settings will be able to notice more than someone with super low brightness and contrast.
Also, some TV’s have a latency issue with controller inputs (I want to say plasma TVs), and usually have a game setting that fixes this.
Yes… Size matters… Uh. Yeah. A few years ago I thought buying a 65" Samsung to play Halo. Got wrecked like crazy. Then started reading on the MLG boards and they said they play on a smaller 20" computer monitor.
Now I play on a 23" 4K Samsung monitor. The refresh rate is awesome and I can see everything without having to turn my neck to see my ammo…
You can buy a widescreen hd 24-27 inch pc monitor for around $125. Many come with the hdmi-dvi cable you’ll need. You don’t have to be rich to afford that.
Don’t know. Been playing on a large (70+ inch) T.V. in Game mode setting on it and works great. Especially being able to see things at a long distance on Warzone without squinting. Ya know, us 'ol guys have problems with that sort of thing. Oh yeah, and my left knee starts to act up when I lose…darn rheumatiz…
