Hello Halo fans! You guys have probably heard of this a lot, but I would like to know everyone’s opinion on the Promethean Boltshot. I personally find it underpowered in terms of its semi-auto fire, and much overpowered with its charged shot. What really grinds my gears is people are frequently camping with it! I have lost several matches, mainly because enemies are hiding in corners with the Boltshot and using Promethean Vision to time their surprise attacks perfectly.
The Boltshot seems to act more like a double-barrel shotgun than it does a personal sidearm. I feel that it breaks the game when potentially anyone can have a shotgun-like weapon at any time. So here is my opinion for balancing:
The Boltshot is a SIDEARM, and thus needs to have the power of a sidearm. It would make sense if it took 9 or 10 shots (with headshot) to get a kill. In terms of the overcharge, it would make more sense for the weapon’s lethality to be restricted to a point-blank blast. Any further and it would just damage or remove shields.
Now for this to work, we need honest feedback and a fair amount it. So please, give an honest and relative opinion to the Boltshot.
Exactly! It is the currently the most camper friendly weapon in Halo 4. You can have it at any point in the match. It has the range of the actual shotgun (or scattershot, never tested the range difference of the two). Also, people have Promethean Vision now. Almost anyone could set up a loadout specifically designed for shotgun/Boltshot camping.
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For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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You would have to count every map and game type to see his or anyone else’s kills/death with/by a weapon. You’re just looking at his slayer games. Fail:/
That says it all. That’s a small example only. There are too many threads crying about the boltshot. Which means one of two things, players refuse to change their tactics and play differently, or they are really bad players. The later doesn’t happen that often. Before you shout fail, look at the statistics first. They WILL NOT change it. Get over it and play the game.
You also have to consider, some people(me) have been playing this game since day 1. The Boltshot was rarely used initially. It has become a much more recent issue than most people realize.
> > > For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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> You also have to consider, some people(me) have been playing this game since day 1. The Boltshot was rarely used initially. It has become a much more recent issue than most people realize.
In many cases, the issues with the boltshot arise from bad connections and lag. The gun itself is perfectly fine. It has a 1 shot kill if you connect. If you don’t, your dead. That’s the trade off. It had a big clip, yes, but the chances of you running out of ammo is slim to none. People are already whining about the scorpion because they keep getting killed by it. That doesn’t mean it’s broken and overpowered, it means a bad player can’t change their tactics.
> > > For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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> That says it all. That’s a small example only. There are too many threads crying about the boltshot. Which means one of two things, players refuse to change their tactics and play differently, or they are really bad players. The later doesn’t happen that often. Before you shout fail, look at the statistics first. They WILL NOT change it. Get over it and play the game.
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What the hell you smoking? If there are a million and one threads about something than obviously something is wrong with what ever the million and one threads are complaining about.
BTW you look at the statistics first before you go saying “Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times.” < = Fail:/
Edit: “They WILL NOT change it.” They will change it. I do remember AL getting changed. Another fail:/
> > > > For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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> Why don’t you give me the correct stats then before you scream fail. There is a million and one threads because we have 30 bad players complaining about the same thing. According to waypoints stats, those numbers are correct, unless waypoint is just wrong. Give me the correct numbers and I’ll correct my error.
> > > > For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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> > > You would have to count every map and game type to see his or anyone else’s kills/death with/by a weapon. You’re just looking at his slayer games. Fail:/
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> > You also have to consider, some people(me) have been playing this game since day 1. The Boltshot was rarely used initially. It has become a much more recent issue than most people realize.
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> In many cases, the issues with the boltshot arise from bad connections and lag. The gun itself is perfectly fine. It has a 1 shot kill if you connect. If you don’t, your dead. That’s the trade off. It had a big clip, yes, but the chances of you running out of ammo is slim to none. People are already whining about the scorpion because they keep getting killed by it. That doesn’t mean it’s broken and overpowered, it means a bad player can’t change their tactics.
Just how is someone going to change tactics for this? If someone is crouching in a corner, they can’t be seen on radar or visually. Also, what if they have Promethean Vision or active camo? The minute they see a blip on the radar, they are going to activate them. With Promethean Vision, they will know exactly when to fire. With active camo, they just have to wait for the opponent to walk next to them. Halo is about running around and shoot each other with futuristic weapons, and having awesome armor. I don’t want to replace that with being paranoid about every single turn in a map. The point of Halo is to have fun, but I can’t because people are trying to boost their K/D ratios with stationary tactics. That’s not fun, that is just people desperately trying to have something to gloat over. I’m sorry, but I don’t care about K/D ratios. I only care about having fun with the best game ever!
I feel it would be more fine if its 1sk range was not greater than the freaking human shotty. Even the scattershot should have a greater or equal 1sk range on it than the boltshot. Why is it that a loadout weapon outclasses its power weapon counterparts?? By that logic it would make sense for the AR to beat the SAW in a fight.
In addition to the crazy range it has a short charge. Fix the range and I wouldnt care about the charge time, but with both…? Even if the boltshotter misses his surprise attack, he has barely enough time to recharge and kill you before you can kill him with your primary weapon sometimes. Especially if he ducks back into his hiding spot again.
People that think boltshot isnt OP have obviously never used one themselves or suck so hardcore at hitting people with it (which is all you need is a hit) that they dont see what the problem is. Try playing Oddball on Abandon with one team camping out in the middle structure with nothing but boltshot and promethean vision and saying boltshot is fine as is.
> > > > > For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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> > > > You would have to count every map and game type to see his or anyone else’s kills/death with/by a weapon. You’re just looking at his slayer games. Fail:/
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> > > That says it all. That’s a small example only. There are too many threads crying about the boltshot. Which means one of two things, players refuse to change their tactics and play differently, or they are really bad players. The later doesn’t happen that often. Before you shout fail, look at the statistics first. They WILL NOT change it. Get over it and play the game.
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> Why don’t you give me the correct stats then before you scream fail. There is a million and one threads because we have 30 bad players complaining about the same thing. According to waypoints stats, those numbers are correct, unless waypoint is just wrong. Give me the correct numbers and I’ll correct my error.
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Don’t try and change the subject. You know damn well we are not talking about how many threads there are statistics. We are talking about your fail about how many times the OP was killed by the BS. Well we were anyway. I’m done…moving on. You should do the same.
> > > > > For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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> > > > You would have to count every map and game type to see his or anyone else’s kills/death with/by a weapon. You’re just looking at his slayer games. Fail:/
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> > > You also have to consider, some people(me) have been playing this game since day 1. The Boltshot was rarely used initially. It has become a much more recent issue than most people realize.
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> > In many cases, the issues with the boltshot arise from bad connections and lag. The gun itself is perfectly fine. It has a 1 shot kill if you connect. If you don’t, your dead. That’s the trade off. It had a big clip, yes, but the chances of you running out of ammo is slim to none. People are already whining about the scorpion because they keep getting killed by it. That doesn’t mean it’s broken and overpowered, it means a bad player can’t change their tactics.
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> Just how is someone going to change tactics for this? If someone is crouching in a corner, they can’t be seen on radar or visually. Also, what if they have Promethean Vision or active camo? The minute they see a blip on the radar, they are going to activate them. With Promethean Vision, they will know exactly when to fire. With active camo, they just have to wait for the opponent to walk next to them. Halo is about running around and shoot each other with futuristic weapons, and having awesome armor. I don’t want to replace that with being paranoid about every single turn in a map. The point of Halo is to have fun, but I can’t because people are trying to boost their K/D ratios with stationary tactics. That’s not fun, that is just people desperately trying to have something to gloat over. I’m sorry, but I don’t care about K/D ratios. I only care about having fun with the best game ever!
I learned exactly where they hide. I’ve had more kills lobbing grenades where they are hiding, there is no point in them doing it. I just adapted. How bout that. If I can figure it out, others can as well. Adrift is easy to know where they hide. As for the lag, avoid CQC. I have since the power of the boltshot was realized.
> > > > > > For god sakes OP. Out of your 1600 kills, you have been killed by the boltshot 21 times. You’re not getting raped that bad. Everyone who makes a stink about the boltshot, I’m going to check their stats and call them on their opinion of the boltshot. The gun works as intended.
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> > > > > You would have to count every map and game type to see his or anyone else’s kills/death with/by a weapon. You’re just looking at his slayer games. Fail:/
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> > > > That says it all. That’s a small example only. There are too many threads crying about the boltshot. Which means one of two things, players refuse to change their tactics and play differently, or they are really bad players. The later doesn’t happen that often. Before you shout fail, look at the statistics first. They WILL NOT change it. Get over it and play the game.
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> > Why don’t you give me the correct stats then before you scream fail. There is a million and one threads because we have 30 bad players complaining about the same thing. According to waypoints stats, those numbers are correct, unless waypoint is just wrong. Give me the correct numbers and I’ll correct my error.
I simply asked for a simple correction from the expert. If you can’t correct me, then the fail is on you.
I did not change the subject. I touched on every point you brought up. I wasn’t trying to rub it in. I chose one gametype and pulled his kills and how many times he was killed by the boltshot. I also checked yours too. Across many gametypes, you don’t die from the boltshot very often either considering how many kills you have.
I’m just going to clarify. I haven’t had trouble with the boltshot until just the past few days. I had faced a surge of multiple people in different games camping at choke-points and simply waiting for me to walk up to them. The 21 deaths from the boltshot is just after two days (about five games) of team-multiplayer games involving the weapon. What I truly fear is that more people will adopt this foul tactic and perpetually ruin multiplayer.