Teams being matched against randoms really is a huge problem in BTB

People that don’t play btb or people that play in stacked squads every game will of course disagree, but I don’t think teams should match randoms so freely.

I don’t know anyone that plays Infinite, and so I am almost always searching solo, which is fine, the most annoying thing I run into is my teammates literally NEVER USING THEIR GUNS. But I also match teams and parties A LOT, because I guess my MMR is high since I top frag almost every match.

I just think its annoying that the game so freely matches partied up teams against randoms who don’t even know how to play the game. That might be fun for the team but how is that retaining those new players?

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I agree 100%. Party matching needs to be a thing, it’s not fair that a team wins every single match, pads their stats and steamrolls randoms. If fun because they don’t have to try.

I would love it if there was an option to match based off party size or to avoid teams for those that care or make teams wait a long time for matches to be fair.

They’ll all advocate against that because they love easy wins and getting ridiculous stats. In halo 5 is was horrible some ppl had 1000’s of wins with like 10 losses in Spartan companies with full 12 man teams vs randoms.

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At most, it should try to prioritize party’s of similar sizes at first if it can. But if it cannot it should party up just like it is now. Last thing I want to see is a team getting forced not to be able to play because there’s not enough similar parties set ups to play with and against. Not to mention occasionally you’ll need randoms to fill in holes in the party.

You also have to consider that some people just want to play with friends, and aren’t partying up just to play at a more competitive level.

Then give the option to search for solo queue like in reach. Don’t force it but allow those that don’t want to face teams to turn it on. Especially for solo players. Maybe even have one for smaller parties too

What is this “friends” you speak of

Something you used to be able to do in games when you interacted with other people, enjoyed playing with them, talk to one another, then say “hey man, want to group up?”.

Now it’s generally best to go on community websites, discords, internet forums and so forth, find a place where they allow you to create topics looking for party members. Start a topic, letting people know what general area you live in and if anyone in the area would like to party up, stating options on if you use voice chat and what not help. Then visit occasionally to see if anyone has responded, or occasional bump to the top to try and get people.

Something is easy to get plenty of if you put at least a little effort into it. I play with tons of friends through various games myself.

I don’t consider people friends until I’ve known them for a while, and I don’t like playing with just anyone…I’m very easily annoyed.

Which is why it’s a bummer that almost all the people I like playing with hate infinite

Well, if you choose to play at a handicap/disadvantage then I wish you the best I guess…

I mean, playing with people you don’t know almost always winds up being a handicap. What’s the difference between a bunch of randoms on the forums and a bunch of randoms you run into in matchmaking?

I agree it’s frustrating to get steamrolled by a stacked team but then again it’s been a thing forever now honestly. Have you tried LFG? Xbox Groups has posts for BTB all the time and the Halo Discord is a good spot as well. I myself either Solo or play with a buddy but every now and then we will stack using Xbox group finder.

Actually, matchmaking does consider this Josh Menke discusses this in a GDC talk. Basically, 343i had to make a decision a long time ago on how to deal with stacked teams and after weighing a few options like not allowing it or only matching against other teams they decided to allow it but only after the system cant find a suitable stacked team. They decided limiting the player’s experience in this way would hurt the game more than the players that might leave because they went up against a stacked team every now and again.

Matchmaking for Engagement: Lessons from Halo 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FoG4Jtpebs

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The Large Friendly Giant?

LOL Looking For Group

Guess 343 still hasnt enabled party matching.

The ability with a color symbol to see who joined with who.

2 symbols its friend’s.
4-8 people have the same symbol to the right it’s a stack.
Nobody has a symbol it’s all randoms.

Nope even though they know what it is. If it was there at launch it would have been nice but with like barely anyone online it wouldn’t be good unfortunately

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This has always been a problem in halo games but nothing ever changes about it.

The only game I have seen with a playlist for solo players only was call of duty modern warfare remastered, think they called it mercenary team deathmatch or something.

But yea this has been a thing as far back as Halo 3 from what I remember, I doubt it will ever change. You either party up with people or just accept from time to time you might get rolled over by a full team of people using mics.

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It’s a little work, but it’s a starting point to making new friends. In the long run, it’ll make the gaming experience a whole lot better too too.

Yeah it was called mercenary tdm
It was introduced in the original codmodwar (2007) after devs listened to feedback on their Charlie Oscar Delta forums, I know because I & a few others pushed Robert Bowling for it.
Being able to play solo & avoid team stackers was prolly one of the things that made that game so popular.
Why its not a thing in all MP games alludes me

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Because stackers came to realize their mm times were slow and complained

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