Do you derive some gratification from costing yourself and your team victory and thus XP by waiting for people to get in a warthog, then drive up a wall endlessly until everyone gets out, and then running those people over intentionally?
Do you experience some sort of thrill or satisfaction when stickying a warthog someone is waiting for someone to drive?
Do you think it’s fun to run people on your own team over on purpose repeatedly over the course of a match?
Are you helping a friend on the opposing team boost somehow by hanging back destroying your own team’s vehicles several matches in a row?
Normally this kind of thing doesn’t bother me, but every single match I was in tonight went this way. I’m not talking about isolated incidents, or accidents. I’m talking about willful, intentional, trolling of one’s own team.
Why do people do it, and when can we expect some sort of consequence for it?
> I’m more concerned by the people who purposely jump in front of your ghost/hog/whatever.
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> Can’t for the life of me figure out what they get out of that.
If I have some -Yoink- on my team barking out orders and blaming the team for his faults, I will betray the hell out of him or just annoy him till he betrays me and I boot him.
Evidently my mistake - continually, in gaming communities - is in thinking people are just a good group of people wanting to have a good time playing a game together.
When in reality a lot of them are angry trolls who like to make people miserable for their own enjoyment. Sigh
> If I have some -Yoink!- on my team barking out orders and blaming the team for his faults, I will betray the hell out of him or just annoy him till he betrays me and I boot him.
Given that I play muted and in private chat… that doesn’t really apply here.
I’m talking about the people who do it JUST to do it.
> They aren’t rational and unfortunately will never listen to reason.
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> They are like monkeys throwing feces.
I’m sure they’re rational, they just have different priorities than you do.
I (And I assume you) like to try to help the team win. I enjoy it when the team wins, but I especially derive joy by being the top score of my team with a KD of 2-3 in the match, in other words being “That guy” who leads the team to victory.
The other people, don’t enjoy that. Who knows they could be students of Ayn Rand who believe “My enjoyment should come before the enjoyment of others”. If betraying other people gives them enjoyment, that is litterally all they care about.
They might even call us the irrational ones because we play for the team and not ourselves. It is a sort of rationalized selfishness (Which honestly isn’t as bad as it sounds)
Of course philosophy aside, if the trueskill system really does only count wins/losses, maybe they’re sabotaging the team in an effort to derank?
Yes I hate those sorts as well and sadly it didn’t take long for them to find exploitable game types in Halo 4.
I spent an entire game in one of the Spec OP Mantis missions (the one on the Ragnorok map) with some twit spending the whole game trying to destroy everyone’s Mantis while we were looking up at the dive bombing Banshees.
In another game some guy was running over his own team mates with a ghost… Over and over again until everyone on our team clued in and started destroying any vehicle the twit got in or near.
About all one can do is boot them for the betrayal if the game type allows for it, then give them a bad player rating and then set them as an avoided player.
> Evidently my mistake - continually, in gaming communities - is in thinking people are just a good group of people wanting to have a good time playing a game together.
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> When in reality a lot of them are angry trolls who like to make people miserable for their own enjoyment.
> Sigh
Welcome to the internet.
Where normal human beings become intoxicated by anonymity and unaccountability to become raging -Yoinks!-.
> > If I have some -Yoink!- on my team barking out orders and blaming the team for his faults, I will betray the hell out of him or just annoy him till he betrays me and I boot him.
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> Given that I play muted and in private chat… that doesn’t really apply here.
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> I’m talking about the people who do it JUST to do it.
I meant annoy as in kill him after an enemy has done damage to him.
I don’t play with a mic on or I’m in party chat with friends.
Oh, that is a different bread of mind set. I’m sure they get entertainment out of others expense.
> > 343 ruined my experience by not letting me rank up beyond 70. Therefore, Im making it harder for the rest of you… ;]
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> I hope you’re joking.
Quite serious. It’s VERY amusing listening to people rage at me. People tell me “who cares about ranking, it’s just a game!” And then they get super mad about losing one because of me lol
Best solution is and always has been the same… Always party up, and roll in a ful team. This is true for every halo, be a part of a team and less shenanigans will be encountered.
> > > 343 ruined my experience by not letting me rank up beyond 70. Therefore, Im making it harder for the rest of you… ;]
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> > I hope you’re joking.
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> Quite serious. It’s VERY amusing listening to people rage at me. People tell me “who cares about ranking, it’s just a game!” And then they get super mad about losing one because of me lol
If someone told you that, they were not being particularly sensitive or empathetic to your feelings, and that sucks. I would never say that. I’m not one of those people.
But two wrongs don’t make a right. You’re taking our your anger and frustration - the feeling of which is quite understandable and justified - out on others who for all you know may or may not even be the source of your consternation.
Please reconsider your, frankly, incredibly immature and selfish attitude. You are being no better than those who have offended you.
