Actually no I take that back, I know 10 year old kids who could easily tell you 4 high ranked platinums vs 3 unranked and 1 plat isn’t equal. Or 4 diamonds vs 2 unranked 1 gold 1 platinum is complete and udder -Yoink-. You wonder why after only 5 months this game’s population took a nose dive? It’s because they design a game to be competitive yet they make match making a complete train wreck. I don’t even get mad anymore when people leave games cause hell if I didn’t want to get banned I’d leave too. It’s not their fault they’re getting tons of deaths and causing us to lose, match making put them up against diamond players.
The sad part is this system is easily fixable yet they’re too busy trying to sell you REQ packs.
I keep seeing posts about the population going down really fast. Where is the proof? I know in some areas the arena is hard hit (australia) but that’s because people find war zone a lot more fun than arena. Since I’m in America I have no problems with getting a game on any playlist or in war zone, I generally only wait a minute or two before the game has started.
But ya I do agree that the matching system is bad when you have unranked players. The reason why is because the unranked players could be at a champion level skill so the game counts them as having a high skill untill proven otherwise.
I’m platinum and often I’m in a team full of platinums and we’re matched against a team with a mix of onyx and diamonds. Seriously, 343, is that the best that you can do?
The amount of times I’ve been demoted because I have some incompetent fool on my team going 19 deaths to 8 kills (in slayer) is insane. I don’t mind going against higher ranked players, as long as my team has its fair share of them too.
I honestly would prefer for the players out of their league to quit, however it’s not their fault the ranking system is garbage.
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> I keep seeing posts about the population going down really fast. Where is the proof? I know in some areas the arena is hard hit (australia) but that’s because people find war zone a lot more fun than arena. Since I’m in America I have no problems with getting a game on any playlist or in war zone, I generally only wait a minute or two before the game has started.
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> But ya I do agree that the matching system is bad when you have unranked players. The reason why is because the unranked players could be at a champion level skill so the game counts them as having a high skill untill proven otherwise.
The prof is XBLs top ten list.
Halo 5 is not even on it, last I checked. “Console seller”. Right.
Most fps dont even have a ranking/matching system but i agree there are games which are very unbalanced but then others where it seems to work well.
As for unranked players i believe that during this period it will look at your wins/losses along with individual performance to gauge where to put you in the next game so its not unusual to see unraked players in plat/diamond games.
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> I’m platinum and often I’m in a team full of platinums and we’re matched against a team with a mix of onyx and diamonds. Seriously, 343, is that the best that you can do?
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> I keep seeing posts about the population going down really fast. Where is the proof? I know in some areas the arena is hard hit (australia) but that’s because people find war zone a lot more fun than arena. Since I’m in America I have no problems with getting a game on any playlist or in war zone, I generally only wait a minute or two before the game has started.
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> But ya I do agree that the matching system is bad when you have unranked players. The reason why is because the unranked players could be at a champion level skill so the game counts them as having a high skill untill proven otherwise.
Consider this, it’s Halo on Xbox and it’s only been out for 5 months. Plus we also have UK players in our servers as well. There should be a lot of people playing this game. It’s no where near as populated BO3. The game had a lot of buzz when it first came out but since then we’ve seen a lot of players leave. Tons of companies with hundreds of people in them all inactive. And it’s barely hanging on as Most Played in Xbox’s storefront.
You are not going to get perfectly balanced games every time calm down. Mismatched games have always happened in online gaming.especially when it comes to teams.
Part of it is ties into what they wanted to achieve. Less time in the lobby and more time playing. They built the parameters to expand the search into different ranks after so many seconds of not finding players. This continues expanding until players are found. The unranked players come in as neutral so they can be paired with different ranks to determine their rank level.
Why don’t 343 split teams when they don’t find an adequate match?
For example, a fireteam of four onyx-level players is searching for a game, but matchmaking can only find platinums to play aginst them. Why not break the fireteam and put two onyx in each team? Isn’t a competitive game ending 50×45 going to be more fun for everybody than a game that goes 50×15 and offers no challenge at all for the best players?
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> Why don’t 343 split teams when they don’t find an adequate match?
> For example, a fireteam of four onyx-level players is searching for a game, but matchmaking can only find platinums to play aginst them. Why not break the fireteam and put two onyx in each team? Isn’t a competitive game ending 50×45 going to be more fun for everybody than a game that goes 50×15 and offers no challenge at all for the best players?
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> You are not going to get perfectly balanced games every time calm down. Mismatched games have always happened in online gaming.especially when it comes to teams.
No the problem is due to the lack of balanced teams. Very rarely will I ever see a balanced match. The most fun I have is when a new season starts and everyone is unranked. That’s where you see 50 - 48 scores with really close games and good competition. But once the divisions come into play the game becomes less balanced. It’s like the balancing system does the exact opposite of what it’s supposed to do.
I think out of 10 games 8 of them are uneven. 5 of those 8 games are massively uneven. And maybe 2 will be somewhat balanced.
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> I keep seeing posts about the population going down really fast. Where is the proof? I know in some areas the arena is hard hit (australia) but that’s because people find war zone a lot more fun than arena. Since I’m in America I have no problems with getting a game on any playlist or in war zone, I generally only wait a minute or two before the game has started.
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> But ya I do agree that the matching system is bad when you have unranked players. The reason why is because the unranked players could be at a champion level skill so the game counts them as having a high skill untill proven otherwise.
No Population Number Count = Low Population. It means that the poppulation count is low and 343 doesn’t want to show the viewers that because it means that people aren’t interested in the game anymore and they don’t want people to have proof for the “The Halo population is dying” argument especially since there is already alot of controversy. Not to mention this game’s population is probably lower than the other Halo games 5 months into its release and they don’t want to show a decline in sales, interests and people playing.
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> Why don’t 343 split teams when they don’t find an adequate match?
> For example, a fireteam of four onyx-level players is searching for a game, but matchmaking can only find platinums to play aginst them. Why not break the fireteam and put two onyx in each team? Isn’t a competitive game ending 50×45 going to be more fun for everybody than a game that goes 50×15 and offers no challenge at all for the best players?
Exactly, and whenever I see a full fireteam that’s when the balancing issue gets even worse. Take the 4 diamonds vs 2 unranked 1 gold 1 plat I had, it seems like they take 8 people looking for a match then they split them into teams once they’re connected to the lobby. But when one team is a full fireteam that scramble or mix doesn’t happen. So you’ll see some ridiculous matchups. Honestly I think they should do team balance based off KDR. Keep divisions the same but just make KDR determine the team balance. But it uses your seasonal KDR not your overall KDR so it keeps fresh data on players. And so everyone doesn’t make their KDR out to be the most important thing, the divisions will still be off wins and loses so you want to keep working as a team.
It takes 8 players and mirrors the teams by their KDR. For example
4.0 / 2.5 / 1.5 / -1.0 /vs\ 3.5 / 3.0 / 2.0 / -1.5
u know what? the problem isnt in matchmaking, its the new concept that only wins will ever give u any rank up. So, if u are a really good player in a team full of noobs and are matched against a decent full fireteam, and u make a heroic effort to make the game real close single handedly as the rest of your team is just dying, all that effort goes waste and no one will ever know either, all u get for that effort is a loss of some ranking points, which if low enough can also cause u to receive a demotion.
so don’t change the matchmaking, change the whole damn ranking system, not everyone plays in fireteams or has the time to organise teams/game nights or whatever. Make it so that the ranking follows your performance in each game whether you win or lose, and winning should only ever give u a boost to the ranking points you earn per game. losing will just le.ave you with your basic ranking score per game, with no other negative effect.
the way it is now, a guy could create a fireteam with 3 really good players and even afk the whole game for all he cares, and stay on the winnign team. quite frankly he would probs have a higher rank than someone who plays a decent game and contributes a lot towards the team objective
Yeah the skill matching system definitely have some problems on an average 1 out of 3 games for me will have a unfair that where it’s extremely one sided it doesn’t matter if its arena or warzone I do find it of course more war zone because that’s what I play the most but here is a bunch of screenshots of all one sided games I do understand sometimes you can get a few games that are like this but I can record maybe like 10 games a day that are extremely one sided and no hope of winning.