1st thing beat downs don’t work on mnk properly pad guys can hit me twice time it takes me to hit someone or i hit someone and nothing happens and i die.
2nd mnk players really have to grind for a kill. where pad players it just auto aims to the head.
3rd i keep getting killed behide walls when no1 there got loads of twitch play to prove it.
4th i heard that 343 ant going to change mnk at all so if u use a pad you always win in 1vs1 gun fights
5th Any mnk player going into tourneys is going lose auto vs pad players.
6th The matter of fact 343 wants you to play on a pad because its to gd atm kind of breaks the game for me big time if u don’t use a pad in high ranked lobbys you auto lose as u can never proper 4 shot people with mnk.
7th dc are that horrible on this game that 343 don’t allow you to rejoin if it kicks u out is a joke its 2021 not 2004.
8th if you dc to much it gives u a ban and not sure for how long even though 90% of players want to join back in the game.
9th For cosmetics you charge people way to much for the same colour for your armour just a different name of the colour.
10th level up system is just trash to level up your battle pass takes forever.
11th tbh how long you had with the game you really messed up the muti player that bad in about 1 month or 2 this game ant going to have alot of people playing at least 90% of all mnk players won’t go near it.
12th The hype on this game was such a big let down and we really got lied to about alot of stuff which is going to happen with the game and never came out.
I am assuming mnk means mouse and keyboard? I just did an improv halo infinite party for my birthday the other day and the top performing players of everyone who played that night out of all my friends were the friends who never played halo before and were using a mouse and keyboard.
I was the only one with a controller that came close to competing to my PC friends that night and that’s because i played halo religiously on a controller since halo 1. Meanwhile all my other casual friends got completely wrecked even though they played halo for years by my pc gaming friends. We went online and my keyboard mouse and friends were always at the top of the score board, so I think your perception of the situation is a bit limited. The auto aim that nigth did not help my gamepad friend at all with a messed up thumb as he couldnt hit anyone as soon as they did any jump maneuver or anything.
I do think your non key board and mouse concerns are very valid. The grind to unlock cosmetics and having to buy a battlepass, which honestly should be the baseline gained content, when you bought the full game already is kind of a turnoff. Like who buys halo just to play the campaign? And the netcode defintely could use some updating and shoudl have been more polished at this point.
Also where is my custom map/game making options, are the menus just to mentally challenging for me or are we lacking core features at release?
yup. the auto-aim assist of melee is so powerful on controller, it locks on and lunges for you - even without a sword. Meanwhile MnK users have to have pixel perfect aim - and a slight miss - means you take longer to recover (because if you hit you recover faster to hit again)
aimbot has gotten worse - you might be seeing a ton of them right now, 343 doesn’t or can’t do anything about them right now, so they run rampant.
the lag, the shot registry, the literaly “i just climbed up, no I didn’t, now i have to reclimb” animation jumps, the crashing to desktop. the game is a rush job, a cash grab, and terrible.
yeah that hasnt been my experience… i was missing allthe time with melee until i got use to it. my keyboard and mouse friends hop on and were instantly gods destroying everyone their first match. If you are good with positioning and gunning, it rarely even comes down to melee.
Work fine for me on m/kb, latency and desync with a healthy dose of infinite wonkiness can make melee strikes a bit iffy at times though.
Aim assist is debatable on efficacy, but truth be told it’s not that difficult playing on PC if you’re proficient with the input. The two are never going to be equals, but until platform segregation is introduced it’s manageable.
Desync and latency, not much you can do about it. Hopefully it’ll get fixed soon.
Why would they change M/KB? What would they change? Honestly.
If there’s one setting that works nearly perfectly as intended, it’s the M/KB settings and options.
I’m winning 1v1’s pretty consistently, and losing appropriately.
Since there hasn’t been any matching between the two in official tournaments, this has yet to be seen.
Honest question, show of hands, has anyone felt the need to transition from M/KB to controller due to pressure from 343?
Platform/input segregation especially in Ranked play does need implementation, but input preference isn’t being forced my guy.
Absolutely a legacy mechanic that needs to be left where it originated.
This is probably one of the biggest QOL changes that needs to be addressed. I’ll give you this one.
Bans can be appealed if game instability caused the issue.
But I agree, I think the problem will go diminish if reconnects are implemented.
Pricing needs adjustment, but there are variations between colors despite the subtlety of it.
However it doesn’t really impact the performance of the gameplay so not really a huge deal.
Level 65, it’s not too bad. It was really bad, now it’s pretty steady. Honestly given the unlimited timeframe and lack of urgency to complete it, I love being able to take my time and just coast through it at my leisure.
Also not too big for performance purposes, so it’s really not a huge deal especially after the changes.
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Multiplayer isn’t even that bad. It has a lot of bugs and stability issues that do suck the fun out of certain situations, but the core gameplay is solid and robust. When these issues clear up, it’s going to be game changer.
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I sure hope the bugs and glitches get sorted out because it was most likely the BTB crashes that caused the most recent exodus. It had nothing to do with input preferences.
What lie/lies were told?
The hype paid off in the first week until the cracks and lack of options started becoming apparent. I haven’t had that much fun in a Halo title since Reach.
I don’t believe that one bit, sounds like a big pile of bullcrap to me. Plenty of videos on YouTube, I even made a video showing the advantage controller has over keyboard and mouse, that show how easy it is to play this game with controller. Heck, even a pro Halo controller player made a comment about how OP a controller is.
There’s even a guy on YouTube that made a video, it’s a 100% keyboard and mouse player and ranked Onxy. He decided to give controller a try, he said he hasn’t touched a controller in 6 years or more. Within the 10 ranked games with controller, he ranked Onxy. He said he’s not new at Halo, but he is below average with controller and no way he should be playing that good with controller. Now, put someone who is above average on controller and hardly to no time with keyboard and mouse, and put them on keyboard and mouse and see how that turns out.
It do be like that in bronze lobbys.
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Can you stop going into every post and acting like a paid shill? It’s literally annoying and people can see right through it.
Wait, are you telling me you’re not getting paid to participate on the forums?
Kinda cool to be recognized ngl
But it would probably be best to stay on topic, do you have a problem with anything in particular in my response to OP that I said or just with the fact that I exist?
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I have a problem with the fact 90% of what you write reads like corporate yack.
Your post was well thought out and explanatory. Gotta love being called a corporate shill just for not hating the game, am I right?
The highest rank you can get from your 10 first Ranked matches is Diamond 1. And assuming you win every game from there, it’s gonna be around 20 more games to Onyx. So your Youtuber is a liar. You should inform yourself properly before spreading misinformation.
Source: https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-infinite-playlist-challenge-update
Watch this, I may of had the rank wrong…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llyIojBUGag
My mistake, I did get the rank wrong. Either way, he makes valid points and you if can’t see that then you’re just being bias to your input of choice and/or you know this advantage with your controller is the only reason why you’re doing as good as you are. This is a problem, it’s not rewarding on controller. The game is handing controller users kills. How is that rewarding to you controller players? Technically, it’s not “aimbot” but it’s pretty damn close. When controller can hit shots that keyboard and mouse cannot hit, how is that not an advantage? It’s not like it’s a slight advantage either, it’s a totally unfair advantage.
Here’s another video he put together…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuMHwLNYnzw
Bye then, don’t let the door hit you on the way out
That is called contrary date, not contradictive, both statements can easily be true still.
There is obvously a great deal of aim assitance given to the controller over the mouse and keyboard. How that impacts your average players, and your pro player and everything in between would produce both varying results within the same data pool groups and probably different averages in the different pools.
Like maybe I just have god like pc gamer friends that created the proxy variable (probably not, as one knb guy asked how to find weapons his first match and how to melee his second. He was top of scoreboard first match and close to it second).
As for your youtube, that anecdotal part doesn’t say at all how easy it is for average knb player to aim better than an aim assist controller. He is one pro, not a pool of millions of players. If we ever do knb vs gamepad tournaments, we will have immediate data for that demograph if those groups needs to be completely seperated.
I don’t know if i would be able to complete the requirements of above average on controller and hardly not time on keyboard on mouse. I do know know the few rare times i played online pc i been dogpoo scores. I don’t do a lot of PC shooters, but i do have quite a bit of PC gaming experience and I am unsure how my how well my halo skills would transfer to get you your data. Even if I did, you could accuse me of proxy variables upsetting the test and ultimately it would be a single anecdotal piece of evidence just like my birthday where the guy who literally didnt melee or know where to find guns… on instinct alone just out shot everybody around him with a keyboard and mouse. I know that is not the average person, he games a lot (though often not shooters).
I played a lot of keyboard and mouse vs controller since shadowrun for xbox 360 days. You wil find the PC mouse users have an advantage at longer range precision shooting and often lose that advantage in closer ranges. when you couple diminishing returns of mouse advantage at closer ranges, then I imagine the aim assistance becomes much greater.
My passion for halo is vehicles… which throw most this keyboard and mouse vs gamepad out the window. but i defintely notice the difference when it comes to ranged encounters.
One big advantage a keyboard has is you can more rapidly strafe back and forth than a controller, this will help offset their aim assistance. The controller also has to decide if it takes a hand off the aim joystick to either melee, jump, or use pick up equipment ability and takes more training for precise movements at the longer distances where aim assistance doesnt immediately help enough when you sensitivity was cranked up to help you win closer range engagements more (and yes all these things can be adapted, fine tuned over time in control setting. But its not instant ‘lol i hit everything’ play).
Get paid like us to post on the forums. Suuuuuuuuper easy. /s