Tank and vehicle spawn in BTB still is awful

I love losing a CTF match because the game gave the enemy team a tank and us nothing, so we were spawned trapped

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BTB in general is awful. 343 hates vehicles. And they seem to have designed the vehicle spawn system to make everyone else hate vehicles too.

This team gets a tank, that team gets a gungoose… Working as intended.

343 claims that they will fix the uneven spawns of vehicles and weapons in Season 2. But I have my doubts. They also claimed they were going to increase the spawns of heavy vehicles in BTB over a month ago and that lasted for about a week before it went back to spawning one team a tank with 1 minute left, basically handing them the win.

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The Wasp is the worst. Whoever decided to make it a flying tank that can ignore small arms fire you made a big mistake right there.

Especially since the missile launcher has no lock on so that leaves just the hydra as a viable counter.

Also there a glitch where your grapple shot gets broken if a guy gets out of a vehicle and then hops back in. This happened three times in a row until I ran out of charge. Not to mention most people don’t have grapples and a pilot can simply fly higher and faster than a Spartan grapple shot.

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The wasp is only powerful because people think they can’t shoot it. If a few people shoot it at the same time with ARs, it dies in seconds.

Not to mention, sniper rifles are over-powered against vehicles in Halo Infinite, to the point where most games it isn’t even worth getting in a vehicle if there is a sniper rifle on the map.

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BTB remains my favorite game mode but there definitely needs to be some fixing with the vehicle and weapon spawns. Had a CTF game one time on Deadlock where the other team scored and the game gave them a tank. A guy proceeded to use it to guard their flag and get 30+ kills.

Finally we destroyed the tank.

And not ten seconds later they get a Pelican drop with another Scorpion.

Fortunately this became an instance of both teams dogpiling on the Scorpion Tank and destroying it before anyone could use it.

We didn’t get any tanks btw so would be really nice of the supposed vehicle spawn fix comes through.

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I’ve seen the thing fly into bases where everyone is shooting it. Barely seems to impact it compared to a Warthog. Something like a Hydra can but it just doesn’t seem to do the damage.

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I seriously miss the Halo 3 BTB, there was nothing wrong with that formula so idk how we ended up with this mode that feels like an oversized Team Slayer - it would be fine as a seperate mode but not as a core BTB experience. Also the BTB maps clearly weren’t created with vehicle battles in mind, at least I can’t properly picture a game with 1 tank and 1 banshee of both sides because the maps would just feel too tight for that.

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Is it me or are the vehicle spawns still unbalanced? I have played very few BTB matches that I can say it was.

Game after game the opposing team is getting tanks and our team nothing. Anyone else having this issue?

If so how hard is it to program a game @343? O wait do NOT answer that, we know due to the game state after a year.

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Um… I’d have to see that tested to believe it. I’ve had matches where I kept a Wasp alive the entire match, while constantly wiping the enemy team as they attempt to push for objectives.

I do really think, more so with how easy it is to use the Wasps weapons, that it should be more fragile then it currently is.

On the contrast, I’d like to see buffs to the Banshee, which is notiably less useful when compared to the Wasp. If anything, it should be more tankier then it, since you can’t just hover out of reach and gun everyone down like you can with the wasp. Maybe even make it just tankier from the front, and let it be better at doing bombing runs ( possibly even a slight increase in reload on the banshee bomb even ).

Yeah, I’d like to see this addressed personally. I think the only manuver that should allow dislodging a grappler is the Banshee’s trick/flip moves.

Also, I guess since we’re talking about the grappler. Does it allow you to grapple and hijack vehicles if you grapple from the front, and the vehicle is going towards the grappler at full speed ( or boosted full speed if using Ghost/Banshee/Wraith Tank/Brute Chopper ). It looks like it does, and that honestly doesn’t make a lick of sense, since that should splatter the grappler IMO. I’ve been trying to test this but can’t tell, it looks like you still get to jack the vehicle but I might just be “eyeballing it”. It’s hard to pay full attention when a lot is going on around you.

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Yeah and now were on (technically season 3) winter update and its still garbage, just lost a match this morning cause the enemy team got 3 tanks and none for us

I’ve seen many unbalanced drops. The latest one was Gungoose/Scorpion :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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…now THAT sounds like a good basis for a custom game!!

Disagree. It used to be weak to group fire, then 343 buffed it when all the other vehicles got buffed. Now it’s a flying tank.

Cool story bro.

You are responding to a comment that I made 8 months ago before 343 decided to buff the wasp. Not sure why this is being brought up again.

Back then, people complained frequently that the wasp was too strong but it was just because literally no one would shoot it. It was silly.

Obviously, 343’s response was to make it stronger.

I’m confused. I’ve observed that the same vehicle spawns at the same time on both sides of the map during a BTB match. On High Power, sometimes a single vehicle spawns in the center, but both teams are alerted to its delivery. It’s like a power weapon spawn. Your team needs to control it

This. 100 times this. “Oh, I can’t do damage to it with this!” yes you can! Slap it with ARs, Sidekicks, whatever you got! We are not helpless!

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You must of hated the halo 3 hornet. The wasp wouldn’t stand a chance against the hornet.

My bad. I clearly I failed to notice the thread necromancy going on here.

I agree that the wasp was weak to group small arms fire when you originally posted and I have no idea why 343 changed it. Plenty of vehicles needed a buff but I don’t think the wasp was one of them.

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I don’t even think it was in normal multiplayer for most maps. Bit like the Scorpian.