Iāve played halo for 17 years and always believed I was above average in mulitplayer, I mostly play PvE but I also play PvP sometimes, I always had a positive KD and recently played a lot of social pvp in MCC PC, but in halo Infiniteā¦ man, where are all these people coming from, it seems like every enemy player has played 2x as much as me and kills me within seconds while Iām lucky if I break their shields.
It feels like thereās something everybody else is doing but me and I keep biting the bullet for it.
Is controller OP or is there some setting that makes it easier to aim?
I have notice this too, 98% of the games I have played has been against enemy players that are OP for some reason. I figured it was cause I was going up against better players but there should be other non pro people in this flight.
I am like you in that I always considered myself pretty much average at Halo, but my experience today has been different. I found that I was murdering people. I have not played in years but I have played thousands of online matches spread over multiple titles. I found I was able to find a controller setup that was close to my old setup and I was able to get back into it quickly. Iām playing with a controller on PC because thatās the only way I know how to play.
I think you are playing against people that are die hard fans of the game, and without an mmr system in place this is going to be rough. I remember when each new Halo game launched there was always an initial period of getting my -Yoink- handed to me until the mmr had enough data to make better matchmaking experiences.
I am having a hard time even wanting to play because of how quickly I get killed. Iāll probably just wait until launch and see if it is better at all. If it isnāt, Battlefield 2042 would probably end up being my go to multiplayer game.
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> I am like you in that I always considered myself pretty much average at Halo, but my experience today has been different. I found that I was murdering people. I have not played in years but I have played thousands of online matches spread over multiple titles. I found I was able to find a controller setup that was close to my old setup and I was able to get back into it quickly. Iām playing with a controller on PC because thatās the only way I know how to play.
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> I think you are playing against people that are die hard fans of the game, and without an mmr system in place this is going to be rough. I remember when each new Halo game launched there was always an initial period of getting my -Yoink- handed to me until the mmr had enough data to make better matchmaking experiences.
I am a hardcore fan just, not a huge fan of the PvP, I have all avhievements on MMC on PC, but I still canāt get a perfect against other people
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> I am having a hard time even wanting to play because of how quickly I get killed. Iāll probably just wait until launch and see if it is better at all. If it isnāt, Battlefield 2042 would probably end up being my go to multiplayer game.
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> > I am like you in that I always considered myself pretty much average at Halo, but my experience today has been different. I found that I was murdering people. I have not played in years but I have played thousands of online matches spread over multiple titles. I found I was able to find a controller setup that was close to my old setup and I was able to get back into it quickly. Iām playing with a controller on PC because thatās the only way I know how to play.
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> > I think you are playing against people that are die hard fans of the game, and without an mmr system in place this is going to be rough. I remember when each new Halo game launched there was always an initial period of getting my -Yoink- handed to me until the mmr had enough data to make better matchmaking experiences.
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> I am a hardcore fan just, not a huge fan of the PvP, I have all avhievements on MMC on PC, but I still canāt get a perfect against other people
This multiplayer is infuriating to play against other people. It isnāt fun. I hold my own pretty damn well in Halo MCC but I canāt even go positive in Infinite. What is the deal here? It isnāt controls, so stop assuming that. Could it be auto-aim (or lack thereof) on controller? Unlikely, because other players using controller would suck too. But they donāt. I really am not usually a multiplayer person anyways, but this really makes me want to completely forego the multiplayer entirely. If they want to bring in new players, this isnāt the way to do it whatsoever. This is pushing away me, a fan playing since the beginning. Itās too sweaty. Far too sweaty. I think we can blame streaming culture in-part to this, due to the desire to be the ānext big thingā and the people streaming needing to be on their A-game 24/7. But then thereās some that just canāt have fun with it and have to make everybody elseās lives in social slayer a living hell. This isnāt fun, 343. Iām not sure what the issue is, but if it really is that everybody Iām up against is a pro, then you better have a DAMN good skill based match making system in store. Otherwise, this isnāt going to be played by many actual fans like Iāve seen repeated countless times in this forum.
Iām an OG player. In my older age Iām average. 1.5 KD maybe. But 3 and 16 matches. While AR clips that donāt drop shields. People double meleeing. Things arenāt right. It also doesnāt feel like dedicated servers either.
There does seem to be something severely off with the ttk/ttd and grenades. Not sure just how many I play with but it does seem like majority of people are on console so Iām wondering if 343 made a bit of a balance mistakeā¦ Halo 5 has some EXTREME aim assist for controller and I wouldnāt be surprised if thatās playing a massive difference in people appearing better than they actually are. Probably going to tweak it a lot more before release so hopefully they have it set well on or around release!
Iām finding that itās a mixed bag. Some games I canāt get rolling and others I dominate. Overall been having a good time. I just wish we could dash, I keep hitting the button I have set in Halo 5. Old habits die hard lol
New players are neither going to enjoy playing against bots or tryhards. Matchmaking system needs to be forgiving for low KD players.
Also the way the maps are set up its hard to find good weapons, it used to be two power weapons per map and then a lot of other good ones. But now its just two blue, two red and one power weapon plus a power up. I donāt want to play with the sidekick the whole game if the other team has map control.
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> New players are neither going to enjoy playing against bots or tryhards. Matchmaking system needs to be forgiving for low KD players.
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> Also the way the maps are set up its hard to find good weapons, it used to be two power weapons per map and then a lot of other good ones. But now its just two blue, two red and one power weapon plus a power up. I donāt want to play with the sidekick the whole game if the other team has map control.
I already know plenty of people who love to go against bots that are casuals. They get stressed playing against an actual team and get anxiety when not performing well. It has a place so I wouldnāt dismiss it.
Some games can get insanely sweaty. Most of the are when you go against a full team however and they have solid rotations. Last night everything finally clicked for me and I was able to tie my movement with my shots. Once you get that fluid motion going youāll see dramatic improvement.
I highly recommend people do 1v2s in training mode with spartan bots. It adds the stress and teaches you how to use the movement more in the fights. Also you can get used to hitting 7 shot kills with the movement under the 1v2 pressure.
Based on experience and everything Iāve been reading, there are plenty of controller players who are also struggling. Some also claim m+kb has problems. Iāve tried some of the various things with settings that others have said makes it better, and it does seem to help - but still doesnāt feel right. Frustrating.
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> > New players are neither going to enjoy playing against bots or tryhards. Matchmaking system needs to be forgiving for low KD players.
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> > Also the way the maps are set up its hard to find good weapons, it used to be two power weapons per map and then a lot of other good ones. But now its just two blue, two red and one power weapon plus a power up. I donāt want to play with the sidekick the whole game if the other team has map control.
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> I already know plenty of people who love to go against bots that are casuals. They get stressed playing against an actual team and get anxiety when not performing well. It has a place so I wouldnāt dismiss it.
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> Some games can get insanely sweaty. Most of the are when you go against a full team however and they have solid rotations. Last night everything finally clicked for me and I was able to tie my movement with my shots. Once you get that fluid motion going youāll see dramatic improvement.
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> I highly recommend people do 1v2s in training mode with spartan bots. It adds the stress and teaches you how to use the movement more in the fights. Also you can get used to hitting 7 shot kills with the movement under the 1v2 pressure.
While theyāre perfect for training mode, I donāt think theyāre good for matchmaking atm. Thereās very little challenges that can accomplished with the bots right now and to an experienced player, bots wonāt offer much struggle. Every time I played a bot game we would always crush the bots going like 50-5 or something like that. I donāt know how many of these types of players are going to stay after launch if it stays like that.
I was never amazing at PvP but think Iām a little bit worse at Halo Infinite than past Halo games.
I put it down to the harder aiming (which I actually like) and I also assume Iām playing with KBM players as well? Sometimes people are landing shots on me half way across the map with the AR or Sidekick so I just assumed these players are using a mouse to be that accurate from that distance.
KBM and Controller players definitely need to be kept separate in the final game - especially for anything ranked.
Settings played a big part for me. What was working setting wise for my team mates did not work for me. I had to play a match against people and then adjust FOV, Sensitivity, and acceleration for about an hour to get it where I liked it. After that I did pretty good. Things like the melee, reload, melee will get addressed. In the long run it will be whether you play ranked or social on how many people you play will be near your skill.
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> > > New players are neither going to enjoy playing against bots or tryhards. Matchmaking system needs to be forgiving for low KD players.
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> > > Also the way the maps are set up its hard to find good weapons, it used to be two power weapons per map and then a lot of other good ones. But now its just two blue, two red and one power weapon plus a power up. I donāt want to play with the sidekick the whole game if the other team has map control.
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> > I already know plenty of people who love to go against bots that are casuals. They get stressed playing against an actual team and get anxiety when not performing well. It has a place so I wouldnāt dismiss it.
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> > Some games can get insanely sweaty. Most of the are when you go against a full team however and they have solid rotations. Last night everything finally clicked for me and I was able to tie my movement with my shots. Once you get that fluid motion going youāll see dramatic improvement.
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> > I highly recommend people do 1v2s in training mode with spartan bots. It adds the stress and teaches you how to use the movement more in the fights. Also you can get used to hitting 7 shot kills with the movement under the 1v2 pressure.
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> While theyāre perfect for training mode, I donāt think theyāre good for matchmaking atm. Thereās very little challenges that can accomplished with the bots right now and to an experienced player, bots wonāt offer much struggle. Every time I played a bot game we would always crush the bots going like 50-5 or something like that. I donāt know how many of these types of players are going to stay after launch if it stays like that.
It wonāt offer much to veteran players because it wasnāt designed for us. Itās for people to play at a super casual level and to practice. After launch only people who need to play it will and that will provide an excellent alternative. Training Mode however allows us veteran to sharpen our reaction times and shots under pressure.
I will gladly admit to being a dead-even Halo 5 player. My typical matches in Big Team Battles would be about 13-8. I regularly am getting absolutely DESTROYED WRECKED OBLITERATED 4-10 in Infinite. I donāt understand how so many people have impeccable aim across the map, firing pistols so much faster than I ever saw in Halo 5, smackdowns sometimes dropping shields, power weapons being essentially worthless, etc. There were many great things but MAN ALIVE I was so demoralized.