"Swatnums" should not be part of "Swat"

Hello,

Personally I really don’t like Swatnums. It is not an actual swat game. Magnums were a secondary weapon which is preferable if people do like using magnums but swat has always been about the BR and DMR. Now I’m sure I’m not the only one but I feel like I get swatnums more than regular swat. I feel giving people a magnum in swat as a secondary weapon is fine but other than that it shouldn’t be its own swat game. Add dmr to swat and it will be fine. And if you’re lazy then just add dmr to the list so we have BR, DMR, and magnum playlist so it doesn’t feel as we get swatnums all the time.

Why does it matter if the magnum is a “secondary weapon” or not?

“Secondary” meaning just add it to the “Swat” which is normal with BR. So if you like magnums you can just swap from the br to the magnum hence “Secondary”. Or they can just add the DMR to swat and have 3 varieties of swat so it doesn’t seem like you’re always getting “swatnums”. Magnums was never a real swat type gameplay and was always just a secondary weapon to the primary BR or DMR.

I prefer swatnums. I think BR swat should be removed.

I don’t really like SWATnums either, and I think it’s currently played way too much. It should be in the rotation, but much less. There should also be backup weapons in normal SWAT.

I seem to get a lot of both but I always do better in SWATnums.

BRs are a lot more forgiving to use. The magnum requires more skill. You have to care about ammo in a way you don’t with the DMR. Personally I like them both. I don’t get swatnums that often.

DMRs and Magnums are all we need. Death to the BR!

I agree I get swatnums way too much, it’s fun on occasion. I’d be fine with it like 1 out of 5 matches but not 4 out of 5 . If they brought back the voting system that might resolve the issue too

Yep. SWATnums seem to come up noticeably more often than regular SWAT. Lower the ratio or bring back voting, even if you can only vote on the game type.

Swatnums needs to GET REMOVED. I whole heartedly agree! It was never like that in Halo 2 or Halo 3. BR starts should be in every freaking category. Enough of this pistol or assault rifle crap.

I miss old school swat were you had a br and a magnum

Remove SWATNUMS and bring back DMR!!!

If there wasn’t Swatnums my reign would be absolute…
3/5 If not more are magnum starts nd I cannot stand it…
and still I reach Champion…

To those who like to use the magnum, idk if you have played halo since it has came out but when swat was introduced as a playlist, magnums was never a gun of choice to use in SWAT. Swat you had BR/DMR the option of a secondary weapon was introduced where you can swap to the Magnum. So if you are really good with the MAGNUM you can use it still in BR/DMR match play in SWAT. I’m clearly stating to get rid of swatnums and add the magnum to the secondary weapon of the primary BR/DMR. I would love for 343 to add the DMR to swat. Even if they added the DMR to swat that will help increase the variety of game play where you don’t have to feel you get swatnums all the time. I’m not saying to punish people who like magnums I’m simply stating that adding the magnum to a secondary weapon to switch if you like over the BR and if they add DMR to the Swat list. Swat has always been a BR/DMR never a magnum list. 343 can be proud of their new magnum design and want us to use it but we can use it if they make it a 2nd aka SECONDARY weapon to our primary BR/DMR. So say you’re better at magnum then swap to your secondary gun which is the magnum. This won’t punish players who like the magnum over BR/DMR and it wont’ punish those who like using the BR/DMR. It was a system of SWAT that beautiful till they added SWATNUMS and it makes who have to play the magnum. Having variety and choice in the game is what keeps the player base sound and enjoying the game. Vast majority will want to use the BR/DMR but in some cases magnum could be a valuable option depending on map size. So once again having both options of Primary(BR/DMR) and Secondary (Magnum) in SWAT and just calling the match game SWAT where you can choose your primary setup just like “HALO 4” where you still gain the option of utilizing the magnum. 343 didn’t have to rework SWAT they should have left it the way it was with the “HALO 4” system and things would be much better. Now different maps where you don’t get the same maps over and over again would be the only real thing they have to fix and veto system would be nice or a smart system that doesn’t allow you to get the same map twice in a row.

swatnums is the what swat should be. sway should be magnum or dmr. That 3 shot burst bullet magnatized garbage br has no place in swat.

The only people complaining about swatnums are the people that can’t aim.

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> Hello,
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> Personally I really don’t like Swatnums. It is not an actual swat game. Magnums were a secondary weapon which is preferable if people do like using magnums but swat has always been about the BR and DMR. Now I’m sure I’m not the only one but I feel like I get swatnums more than regular swat. I feel giving people a magnum in swat as a secondary weapon is fine but other than that it shouldn’t be its own swat game. Add dmr to swat and it will be fine. And if you’re lazy then just add dmr to the list so we have BR, DMR, and magnum playlist so it doesn’t feel as we get swatnums all the time.

So you’re saying that if you had a DMR start to swat with no pistol secondary you would be happy. But the magnum start makes you angry. I just like variety, which is something halo 5 definitely lacks. Getting rid of swatnums isn’t the answer, but i think you’re onto something with the DMR start to swat.

I personally enjoy the variety of not just having everyone use the BR in swat. Even when the magnum is used in swat no one would use it because of its lack of range, most maps have lots of areas that it is easy to sit back and pick people off with a BR. Swatnums forces people to not camp and pick people off from distance as much. It creates a different dynamic to swat which i enjoy. i am not alone.

i understand your frustration. i agree that there should be a better rotation of game types/maps in all the playlists. it would be nice if they had a DMR start to swat, that would balance things out really well. i think that is definitely the best solution. maybe even make one with carbine swat? maybe that would be going too far. either way i often find that swat is usually just BR start and never magnum start. doesnt matter which way it goes it should be better balanced somehow. same thing happens in team arena with slayer, seems like most of the time i just get slayer, and 1/3 of the time its objective. come on 343

You must be a noob to the “Swat” game to think swatnums is how it should be or thinking that people who prefer BR/DMR over magnums can’t aim. Swat was always played with BR/DMR never a magnum in Halo so get your facts straight. Magnum can stay in game as long as they just don’t set it to it’s own playlist in SWAT and just make it a secondary weapon. Once again I feel their are a lot of people who are not understanding the word (secondary) it means as a second weapon so you can switch…AKA you can carry two weapons in the game lol. So magnum would be the SECOND weapon just click (Y) on your controller and swap to the secondary (magnum) if you prefer to use magnum. SWAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BR/DMR PLAYLIST! THEY IMPLEMENTED MAGNUMS TO BE A SECONDARY WEAPON! The real problem isn’t the magnum as you get the playlist more than “SWAT” which is the normal gameplay. When you play “SWAT” and you click to look for a match is it call SWAT or SWATNUMS when you click to search for a match in the playlist?..Obviously the playlist is called SWAT which has always been BR/DMR. And btw BR is burst 3 shot while DMR is one shot just like your little magnum sooooo case close? DMR is personally my favorite weapon of choice and as I keep repeating myself like a broken record… SWAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BR/DMR.

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> > Hello,
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> > Personally I really don’t like Swatnums. It is not an actual swat game. Magnums were a secondary weapon which is preferable if people do like using magnums but swat has always been about the BR and DMR. Now I’m sure I’m not the only one but I feel like I get swatnums more than regular swat. I feel giving people a magnum in swat as a secondary weapon is fine but other than that it shouldn’t be its own swat game. Add dmr to swat and it will be fine. And if you’re lazy then just add dmr to the list so we have BR, DMR, and magnum playlist so it doesn’t feel as we get swatnums all the time.
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> So you’re saying that if you had a DMR start to swat with no pistol secondary you would be happy. But the magnum start makes you angry. I just like variety, which is something halo 5 definitely lacks. Getting rid of swatnums isn’t the answer, but i think you’re onto something with the DMR start to swat.
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> I personally enjoy the variety of not just having everyone use the BR in swat. Even when the magnum is used in swat no one would use it because of its lack of range, most maps have lots of areas that it is easy to sit back and pick people off with a BR. Swatnums forces people to not camp and pick people off from distance as much. It creates a different dynamic to swat which i enjoy. i am not alone.
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> i understand your frustration. i agree that there should be a better rotation of game types/maps in all the playlists. it would be nice if they had a DMR start to swat, that would balance things out really well. i think that is definitely the best solution. maybe even make one with carbine swat? maybe that would be going too far. either way i often find that swat is usually just BR start and never magnum start. doesnt matter which way it goes it should be better balanced somehow. same thing happens in team arena with slayer, seems like most of the time i just get slayer, and 1/3 of the time its objective. come on 343

Yes I completely agree more variety is the key to the frustration on swatnums because I personally tend to get more swatnums than SWAT. I don’t mind swatnums if it wasn’t heavily played. More variety DMR and i really love your carbine idea and maybe even the forerunner weapon the Binary Rifle I believe (whichever is the non sniper forerunner weapon). But no I’m not saying get rid of the magnums I’m simply saying find a way to fix the magnum either by having it as a secondary weapon to your BR/DMR/Carbine or more variety in swat so you have say SWAT, SWATNUMS, DMR SWAT, COVENANT SWAT (CARBINE), BINARY SWAT (FORERUNNER)… MORE VARIETY AND YOU WON’T FEEL LIKE YOU’RE PLAYING ONE STYLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. You are by far ahead of the curve and the most intelligent I have talked too lol. You understand what the issue is!

Sincerely,
MattieleeX