Magnums and DMRs do not belong in SWAT. Both weapons just make the game campy, and you can’t outshoot multiple people. All it takes is a team that swarms to break the mode. SWAT was born with BR, it should be only BR.
People complain about no DMR SWAT
343i, after months of complaining, finally puts in DMR SWAT
People complain about DMR SWAT
facepalm
I don’t see a problem with variety in SWAT.
Swat DMRs have been asked for a while now. I’d like to hear your reasoning behind why magnums and DMRs make the game campy. What do you mean by “can’t outshoot multiple people” and “all it takes is a team that swarms to break the mode?” You need to give some more details. My guess as to why you’re posting this is because you got REQ’d in swatnums and DMR swat but REQ’d others in BR swat. Is my assumption correct?
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> People complain about no DMR SWAT
> 343i, after months of complaining, finally puts in DMR SWAT
> People complain about DMR SWAT
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> facepalm
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> I don’t see a problem with variety in SWAT.
Agreed, Yoshi.
Honestly, the Halo community is heading to become a very toxic one. 343 can’t do anything without people -Yoinking!- about it (not solely aimed at OP).
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> People complain about no DMR SWAT
> 343i, after months of complaining, finally puts in DMR SWAT
> People complain about DMR SWAT
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> facepalm
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> I don’t see a problem with variety in SWAT.
You can read my post history, I never supported DMR SWAT. I was against it. I just want BR SWAT.
I feel with just BRs in SWAT there’s a lack of variety and things would get stale quick. Plus the changes give people a chance to adapt new play styles based on the weapon they have and gives more of an opportunity for gameplay growth.
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> > People complain about no DMR SWAT
> > 343i, after months of complaining, finally puts in DMR SWAT
> > People complain about DMR SWAT
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> > facepalm
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> > I don’t see a problem with variety in SWAT.
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> You can read my post history, I never supported DMR SWAT. I was against it. I just want BR SWAT.
He isn’t aiming that at you, more the community as a whole.
How do you like your Halo… oh as stale as possible please… 
really make a playlist only one weapon?
343 gives people what they want and people still cry. people complain about anything
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> Swat DMRs have been asked for a while now. I’d like to hear your reasoning behind why magnums and DMRs make the game campy. What do you mean by “can’t outshoot multiple people” and “all it takes is a team that swarms to break the mode?” You need to give some more details. My guess as to why you’re posting this is because you got REQ’d in swatnums and DMR swat but REQ’d others in BR swat. Is my assumption correct?
DMR is campy because it is really easy to lock down sections of some maps with a cross. While it’s not impossible to do that with BR, you can create more openings with BR.
With mag/DMR you can’t reliably spray at someone to keep them off you for that brief moment you need to move forward. It’-Yoink!- or miss. BR I can spray, not get a headshot but either knock you out of scope or scare you to back off while I move.
Swarm is a technique where you just literally hug your team really tight and rotate around each other (like a swarm of somethings would). It’s most effective when you don’t need to worry about friendly fire (like in SWAT). And it’s more effective in Halo 5 than most other games because the game’s aim assist will move your crosshair, which makes it hard to lock on to a single enemy. With a Mag/DMR you may get 1 kill but you can’t shoot 3 people at once. With a BR you can, so grouping up like that is discouraged.
Also, I got a Killamanjaro on SWAT 2 days ago. It doesn’t matter which it is, I generally go positive. I just like SWAT with BR’s. It works better.
I’ve been asking for DMR SWAT for months, it’s why I avoided SWAT because it was just the magnum and BR. Don’t you dare take this away from me.
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> > Swat DMRs have been asked for a while now. I’d like to hear your reasoning behind why magnums and DMRs make the game campy. What do you mean by “can’t outshoot multiple people” and “all it takes is a team that swarms to break the mode?” You need to give some more details. My guess as to why you’re posting this is because you got REQ’d in swatnums and DMR swat but REQ’d others in BR swat. Is my assumption correct?
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> DMR is campy because it is really easy to lock down sections of some maps with a cross. While it’s not impossible to do that with BR, you can create more openings with BR.
> With mag/DMR you can’t reliably spray at someone to keep them off you for that brief moment you need to move forward. It’-Yoink!- or miss. BR I can spray, not get a headshot but either knock you out of scope or scare you to back off while I move.
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> Swarm is a technique where you just literally hug your team really tight and rotate around each other (like a swarm of somethings would). It’s most effective when you don’t need to worry about friendly fire (like in SWAT). And it’s more effective in Halo 5 than most other games because the game’s aim assist will move your crosshair, which makes it hard to lock on to a single enemy. With a Mag/DMR you may get 1 kill but you can’t shoot 3 people at once. With a BR you can, so grouping up like that is discouraged.
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> Also, I got a Killamanjaro on SWAT 2 days ago. It doesn’t matter which it is, I generally go positive. I just like SWAT with BR’s. It works better.
I’d say it’s more campy for DMRs but BRs still have a lot of range to make it campy also. Your sentence about the shooting to subdue/slow an enemy I find isn’t a big enough reason and is also achievable for pistols and DMRs.
I have never gotten 2 kills with 1 shot in swat (granted I don’t play much swat) let alone 3 kills. I don’t think people would actually stay that close together to get the 3 kills.
It seems that your reasons to remove these 2 modes are just minor pet peeves. At the end of the day, you have to weigh the positives and negatives.
Positives: all of your annoyances would be gone
Negatives: swat would get stale for most people because of the lack of variety, people would yell at 343, and you’d piss people off who asked for this and like the modes.
I love the fact that swat has multiple versions. It adds variety to the game type.
Magnums have always been in swat. Kind of upset there’s no BR/Pistol swat. Just be glad it’s not Halo 3 settings. BRs, pistols, radar and grenades.
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> > People complain about no DMR SWAT
> > 343i, after months of complaining, finally puts in DMR SWAT
> > People complain about DMR SWAT
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> > facepalm
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> > I don’t see a problem with variety in SWAT.
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> You can read my post history, I never supported DMR SWAT. I was against it. I just want BR SWAT.
It’s not just your game though, so it wouldn’t be fair to just cater to those who just want BR swat.
The Burst Fire on the BR means you have less chances to miss: at least one of the three bullets will hit the target if it’s anywhere inside the reticule, but precise aiming is required with the DMR and Magnum and any other precision weapon in Halo 5.
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> > > People complain about no DMR SWAT
> > > 343i, after months of complaining, finally puts in DMR SWAT
> > > People complain about DMR SWAT
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> > > facepalm
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> > > I don’t see a problem with variety in SWAT.
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> > You can read my post history, I never supported DMR SWAT. I was against it. I just want BR SWAT.
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> It’s not just your game though, so it wouldn’t be fair to just cater to those who just want BR swat.
Exactly. Not everyone enjoys BR SWAT and variety makes everything more interesting.
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> > > Swat DMRs have been asked for a while now. I’d like to hear your reasoning behind why magnums and DMRs make the game campy. What do you mean by “can’t outshoot multiple people” and “all it takes is a team that swarms to break the mode?” You need to give some more details. My guess as to why you’re posting this is because you got REQ’d in swatnums and DMR swat but REQ’d others in BR swat. Is my assumption correct?
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> > DMR is campy because it is really easy to lock down sections of some maps with a cross. While it’s not impossible to do that with BR, you can create more openings with BR.
> > With mag/DMR you can’t reliably spray at someone to keep them off you for that brief moment you need to move forward. It’-Yoink!- or miss. BR I can spray, not get a headshot but either knock you out of scope or scare you to back off while I move.
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> > Swarm is a technique where you just literally hug your team really tight and rotate around each other (like a swarm of somethings would). It’s most effective when you don’t need to worry about friendly fire (like in SWAT). And it’s more effective in Halo 5 than most other games because the game’s aim assist will move your crosshair, which makes it hard to lock on to a single enemy. With a Mag/DMR you may get 1 kill but you can’t shoot 3 people at once. With a BR you can, so grouping up like that is discouraged.
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> > Also, I got a Killamanjaro on SWAT 2 days ago. It doesn’t matter which it is, I generally go positive. I just like SWAT with BR’s. It works better.
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> I’d say it’s more campy for DMRs but BRs still have a lot of range to make it campy also. Your sentence about the shooting to subdue/slow an enemy I find isn’t a big enough reason and is also achievable for pistols and DMRs.
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> I have never gotten 2 kills with 1 shot in swat (granted I don’t play much swat) let alone 3 kills. I don’t think people would actually stay that close together to get the 3 kills.
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> It seems that your reasons to remove these 2 modes are just minor pet peeves. At the end of the day, you have to weigh the positives and negatives.
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> Positives: all of your annoyances would be gone
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> Negatives: swat would get stale for most people because of the lack of variety, people would yell at 343, and you’d piss people off who asked for this and like the modes.
No it’s campy. I play SWAT often and it is much more campy than BR’s. If you play against smart players, they will swarm and you can’t beat that with mag/DMR. It’s not uncommon to get a double with 1 shot if the enemy bunches up, which is the point. People don’t swarm in BR SWAT because BR can kill multiples in 1 shot so you are less likely to get a multikill. You can’t reliably deter someone who has your position in sight in mag/DMR. Most of the time you just get popped the moment you try to counter.
Variety should not come at the cost of the integrity of the game. Otherwise it’s just there for the hell of it. Why don’t we get Carbine SWAT? AR SWAT? SMG SWAT? Sniper SWAT? Rocket SWAT? Needler SWAT? That’s a lot of variety for you right there, but I will tell you all those modes will be broken. If SWAT gets stale for you, well there are like 8 other playlists and Warzone. You have a ton of variety. Stop trying to add variety where it’s not needed.
No difference between these weapons in SWAT they are all one shot kills.
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> > > > Swat DMRs have been asked for a while now. I’d like to hear your reasoning behind why magnums and DMRs make the game campy. What do you mean by “can’t outshoot multiple people” and “all it takes is a team that swarms to break the mode?” You need to give some more details. My guess as to why you’re posting this is because you got REQ’d in swatnums and DMR swat but REQ’d others in BR swat. Is my assumption correct?
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> > > DMR is campy because it is really easy to lock down sections of some maps with a cross. While it’s not impossible to do that with BR, you can create more openings with BR.
> > > With mag/DMR you can’t reliably spray at someone to keep them off you for that brief moment you need to move forward. It’-Yoink!- or miss. BR I can spray, not get a headshot but either knock you out of scope or scare you to back off while I move.
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> > > Swarm is a technique where you just literally hug your team really tight and rotate around each other (like a swarm of somethings would). It’s most effective when you don’t need to worry about friendly fire (like in SWAT). And it’s more effective in Halo 5 than most other games because the game’s aim assist will move your crosshair, which makes it hard to lock on to a single enemy. With a Mag/DMR you may get 1 kill but you can’t shoot 3 people at once. With a BR you can, so grouping up like that is discouraged.
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> > > Also, I got a Killamanjaro on SWAT 2 days ago. It doesn’t matter which it is, I generally go positive. I just like SWAT with BR’s. It works better.
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> > I’d say it’s more campy for DMRs but BRs still have a lot of range to make it campy also. Your sentence about the shooting to subdue/slow an enemy I find isn’t a big enough reason and is also achievable for pistols and DMRs.
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> > I have never gotten 2 kills with 1 shot in swat (granted I don’t play much swat) let alone 3 kills. I don’t think people would actually stay that close together to get the 3 kills.
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> > It seems that your reasons to remove these 2 modes are just minor pet peeves. At the end of the day, you have to weigh the positives and negatives.
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> > Positives: all of your annoyances would be gone
> >
> > Negatives: swat would get stale for most people because of the lack of variety, people would yell at 343, and you’d piss people off who asked for this and like the modes.
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> No it’s campy. I play SWAT often and it is much more campy than BR’s. If you play against smart players, they will swarm and you can’t beat that with mag/DMR. It’s not uncommon to get a double with 1 shot if the enemy bunches up, which is the point. People don’t swarm in BR SWAT because BR can kill multiples in 1 shot so you are less likely to get a multikill. You can’t reliably deter someone who has your position in sight in mag/DMR. Most of the time you just get popped the moment you try to counter.
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> Variety should not come at the cost of the integrity of the game. Otherwise it’s just there for the hell of it. Why don’t we get Carbine SWAT? AR SWAT? SMG SWAT? Sniper SWAT? Rocket SWAT? Needler SWAT? That’s a lot of variety for you right there, but I will tell you all those modes will be broken. If SWAT gets stale for you, well there are like 8 other playlists and Warzone. You have a ton of variety. Stop trying to add variety where it’s not needed.
You might want a BR only SWAT but plenty of people want Magnums and DMR SWAT. And in my SWAT games with BR, it has been plenty campy by the enemy team who has forced my team to spawn in a corner of the map unable to break out, let alone pop out of a corner without getting slotted in the head. In some cases SWATnums have been the same. SWAT can easily be campy with any precision weapon, don’t pin it on a single weapon.
Last time I checked SWAT with SMG or Needlers is basically Breakout. No shields and no motion sensor. Only you have score and not one-life elimination.