SWAT: Reach Vs H4

I played SWAT extensively in Reach and it was one of my favorite playlists, something about the accuracy and quick fingers needed to do well turned me on.
But now in halo 4, I get absolutely DESTROYED in swat.

I struggle to go positive all the time, when in reach, i would consistently get half the teams kills and ridiculously high k/d ratios. Not tryin to toot my own horn here, but the contrast is huge.

Anyways, I think Reach had a much better gametype than halo 4 currently has, although i haven’t come to understand why yet. map design? constantly trading kills?

Enough about me, lets talk about you.
Did you think Reach had a better gametype going?
or halo 4?
or did you think they were the same and i’m just delusional?

Reach had no instant respawns, less range on the DMR, less accuracy and hitscan. SWAT was more balanced in Reach therefore it was superior.

Reach = randomness
H4 = magnetism

both suck

> Reach = randomness
> H4 = magnetism
>
> both suck

I actually think bloom didn’t play much of a factor in Reach swat. you don’t need 5 trigger pulls you only need one, so bloom isn’t a problem here.

I prefer Halo 4 SWAT because the weapons feel so much better to use. However, I think Reach had better maps for SWAT.

> Reach = randomness
> H4 = magnetism
>
> both suck

Bloom doesn’t equal randomness.

> > Reach = randomness
> > H4 = magnetism
> >
> > both suck
>
> Bloom doesn’t equal randomness.

InB4 the 3 week debate over the difference between randomness and unpredictability.

> > Reach = randomness
> > H4 = magnetism
> >
> > both suck
>
> I actually think bloom didn’t play much of a factor in Reach swat. you don’t need 5 trigger pulls you only need one, so bloom isn’t a problem here.

if you dont panic, agreed.

Swat is not my favorite gametype but I have played quite a bit of it and I prefer Halo 4’s to Reach. I enjoy the BR vs DMR dynamic.

Whenever I play SWAT in Halo 4 I feel like I get a lot of kills, but at the end of the game my K/D usually isn’t that great.

> Swat is not my favorite gametype but I have played quite a bit of it and I prefer Halo 4’s to Reach. I enjoy the BR vs DMR dynamic.

Same here, man.

I think 343 surprisingly found the right balance for all three weapons in SWAT (BR, DMR, and Magnum).

Reach was more skill based. Halo 4 all you have to do is either spam the pistol or BR spray. I was the opposite of you because if the pistol. I wasn’t as bad in Reach but nothing special either.

I played a 1,000+ games of Swat in Reach. And it was actually a challenge. Reflection, Asylum and Boardwalk … loved 'em.

Swat in Halo 4 is way too noob friendly due to magnetism and such. I got the 15 pistol kills challenge the other day on my first try, and had 20+ kills the following 4 or 5 games. 33-6 before I changed playlists.

But on maps like Complex, the BR is definitely inferior to the DMR.

Halo 4’s swat is great.

Why do I do so much better in Halo: Reach against higher-rankers in all playlists including SWAT than my performance in Halo 4?

Halo 4 turned friendly fire off… Now players can spam a 3 shot burst without fear of hitting a teammate. Lame.

Also, reach swat did melee better. 1 shot and melee to kill.

I hated FF in swat. Sometimes a stray pistol shot would hit someone right behind the enemy, and BOOM…booted.

I swear, all i ever heard in Halo 3 was “Turn off Friendly Fire”.

I love it being off. Prevents me from getting betrayed for stupid crap, like Hail Mary grenade throws that somehow sticks to the real rear of the hog, and yet the hog survives.

Hopefully maps from the forge playlist get added into SWAT, we definitely need some better SWAT maps. Other than that though, I’m loving Halo 4 SWAT. If I weren’t working towards the UNSC Loadout Mastery (Protector helmet) it would be all I would play.

I could definitely go for a separate SWAT gametype with Carbines and Lightrifles, instead of DMR/BR. It would help refine my LR skills a bit…I’m terrible with that thing.

I kinda was annoyed with reach because bloom made swat 75% random.
In halo 4 the auto aim and magnetism is so high that it is impossible to miss.

Maybe the OP just sucks at H4 :stuck_out_tongue:

No, I kid. SWAT I’ve never liked, however… so tedious and boring.