Can we please have swat games be just that, SWAT GAMES! Do we really have to have a magnums option? can’t the players who want to use magnums just switch once the game starts. And do we have to have an objective game ON EVERY swat list? Cant that be made a separate game list or just offered once in a blue moon? And then on every vote list, 2 of the listed games (usually magnums and the objective) are the same stinking maps!! I personally think 343 has done a terrible job with this franchise and have already canceled my 2 Halo 4 pre orders. If I wanted to play COD I would buy COD. I have not posted in over a year but would still like to know what others think. Thanks!
Every SWAT update has made the playlist worse. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made SWAT AR starts in the next update.
A lot of people like SWAT Magnums, you know. Your opinion is not the only one out there. And besides, the game isn’t AS ‘noobish’ when everyone is using a close range weapon.
> A lot of people like SWAT Magnums, you know. Your opinion is not the only one out there. And besides, the game isn’t AS ‘noobish’ when everyone is using a close range weapon.
Random spread within the reticle in addition to host dependent bloom. Yay!
Magnums on Powerhouse?
Magnums on Boardwalk?
Obviously whoever made this change did not think it through.
you cancelled your pre-order because you dislike a playlist? You can choose other playlists, you know.
I agree that magnums on Boardwak and Powerhouse are a terrible idea. I’m personally not a fan of swat magnums, but i’m not afraid to admit it’s only because i suck at magnums. They can be fun on sword base, it forces closer range fights, and the inaccuracy makes it alot harder for teams to camp the top of yellow lift. Overall I enjoy Reach SWAT, my biggest problem is bad matchmaking. I understand it’s working from a limited number of players, but losing a game because one guy got 30 kills? I’m not a bad SWAT player, I usually average double digits unless I get teamed up with 3 crap players.
It would have been nice if they left Swat alone and did not remove Pinnacle and Uncaged . Powerhouse and Boardwalk come up all of the time and are picked less than about any other map . I don’t mind magnums and use mine in regular Swat on Countdown and Sword Base frequently to create some variety because those maps t5end to fit it better .I have noticed that people quit games alot more than they used to . The last update was better than playing Reflection and Asylum over and over . I guess Swat is what it is now and hopefully in Halo 4 they will get it right .
You know since standard swat is the most popular they should make that the second voting option and make objective swat the first. If you don’t want objective slayer then you can vote for the next best thing. Slayer gets boring after while, just running around the same maps over and over only stays interesting for so long, but put an objective on it then the whole pace of the game changes. People start working together as a team, watching each others’ backs - it’s way more fun than just running and gunning. Today I won an oddball game on zealot in swat. Went positive in kills, was the only one to earn a spree, most multikills, etc, and held the bomb for the longest time. In fact objective swat rarely gets voted for as it is. I think for me it’s about 1 in every 50 games is an objective type. Is that not seldom enough for you? What kind of objective games do we get in swat anyways? Plots, oddball, stockpile.
The maps are fine, could do with some new ones, or some that are already in matchmaking repurposed for swat I think would work. Leave swat the way it is.
> > A lot of people like SWAT Magnums, you know. Your opinion is not the only one out there. And besides, the game isn’t AS ‘noobish’ when everyone is using a close range weapon.
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> Random spread within the reticle in addition to host dependent bloom. Yay!
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> Magnums on Powerhouse?
> Magnums on Boardwalk?
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> Obviously whoever made this change did not think it through.
While I agree that SWAT Magnums on those maps is aggravating, I don’t want to see the gametype dealt away with entirely. SWAT Magnums is a great way to increase Small Arms commendation (and yes, I am aware that you are given a Magnum in regular SWAT), plus it’s an overall fun change of pace compared to default SWAT.
This new voting system is garbage. People, instead of voting for the best map, just vote for the first option (SWAT) because the other two are Magnum and Objective and most (not all) want to play regular SWAT. This means you play Sword Base. A lot.
> This new voting system is garbage. People, instead of voting for the best map, just vote for the first option (SWAT) because the other two are Magnum and Objective and most (not all) want to play regular SWAT. This means you play Sword Base. A lot.
You play on Sword Base a lot because it’s weighting is high.
OP: The interest in SWAT Magnums or objective based SWAT is not high enough to warrant a playlist for them.
Just roll with the fact that you got SWAT Magnums.
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Yeah, but I mean before the voting change, if you didn’t want to play Sword Base then you voted another map to play SWAT on. With this voting system, if I don’t want to play Sword Base I have to vote Magnum or Objective. Which I don’t mind playing myself, but the majority of voters would rather play regular SWAT on a garbage map than SWAT Magnums on a good map.
I did not want to sound anti magnum. but as stated those desiring to use them could switch to them after game start. I am anti “take up another map option” just 4 a magnum only game, thats all.
And I understand that the objective games are not popular enough 2 warrant their own playlist which brings me back 2 my original statement: why are those games placed in EVERY vote list? maybe move them to a second play list if voters vote for more options.
And I REALLY agree with more and new map options but I do not believe 343 is interested in REACH with the Halo4 release so close.
I did not cancel my halo 4 games because of the playlist. I did so because I (personally) do not like the look and direction that it appears 343 is taking this franchise thats all.
In disregard to all previous comments, I have to say, whoever made this thread is right. Over time, the amount of decent maps with just SWAT in the voting list has decreased an annoyingly large amount. I’m not saying they should abandon all other forms of SWAT, just that it would be nice to have more options for normal SWAT over a large veriety of maps in the same voting list. The exact same thing has happened in BTB. I used to play on it all the time because it was fun to have a gametype just like Team Slayer but with bigger teams and maps, and a few vehicles added to the mix. Now, they’ve added all sorts of new gametypes in the voting like BTB Snipers. What’s the point? Also, Bungie/343 In. have started to add new, player made maps, which is fine, but they have also started to neglect some of the old origonal maps such as Paradiso. I loved that map. It was pure carnage and mayhem, with a little logic put into the layout. It was my favourite BTB map of all time (except for Hemorage, but that goes without saying these days). I’ve rambeled on for quite a while now, I know, but my final point is: 343, stop with all these new gametypes and keep it simple. Bring back the old stuff.
Guys I think you are wasting your time. Every month people complain about SWAT’s limited map selection, and now terrible voting system, and NOTHING GETS DONE. Face it. 343 is done with Reach. A simple playlist update is way too difficult to accomplish. Bungie created new playlists every weekend. 343 can’t even be bother to manage the playlists they have.
Yeah, to bad 343 doesn’t read their own forum pages.
> Yeah, to bad 343 doesn’t read their own forum pages.
False, they DO read. If they implemented every suggestion posted here Reach would be the biggest cluster ever.
Yes, people CAN switch to magnums in normal SWAT games but when it’s magnum vs DMR, the advantage is heavily weighted in one direction. Just because YOU don’t enjoy SWAT magnums doesn’t mean it needs to be taken out. Plenty of people play it.
Also, in the future, please simply edit your post instead of posting 4 times in a row. Thanks!