I am literally about to rage. 343 has taken everything that was beautiful about SWAT, halo, and matchmaking in general, and turned it into an abomination. I am currently loading my 12th game of SWATNUMS IN A ROW. Where is the voting? Where is the BR? Where is the DMR? The Carbine? Hell, give me something other than a friggen magnum and let me play. I’m literally so over this busted matchmaking system. Every other game developer in the world with a credible multiplayer game allows voting. 343 wants to hype up there matchmaking? It’s trash. Literally garbage. I’m over it, and a life-long halo franchise buyer/player/lover.
The streak of Swatnums has officially ended at 14 games, as I load a BR game on Truth… SMH. pitiful.
Right, and then there is the lack of map rotation. I have often encountered swatnums two and three times in a row on the same map just different starting points. And of course the fact the maps are so small, if my team is weak, the spawn killing just gets out of control. Busted times busted in my opinion. Games go fast, so now I can lose 7 times an hour instead of 5.
absolutely agree. Add my Gt: Ghost Abolishes. I’m always looking for people to rage about magnums with. lol. I carry my own weight (unless I’ve had a lot to drink haha). Send me a request. I play almost everyday and am typically looking for a 3rd or 4th guy to pick up.
Does ANYONE actually want magnums anymore? Just make the gametype BR/pistol starts so you can use w/e you want and end the frustration.
Also give us maps that aren’t trash for SWAT like a Haven remake.
Adversity, I agree with you entirely. I honestly believe that Haven was one of the best, if not THE best swat map to ever be produced, and I have played halo since its inception. 343 has already rebuilt old maps for their BTB reboot, why not incorporate some classic SWAT maps into this. I want them to bring back BR/pistol starts for more than just the option of being able to use whatever you want. 343 is going to sit here and tell me that after how many years of combat scenarios that the Chief just woke up one day and said, “Ah screw it, I don’t need a sidearm”. What military combatant would ever go into a firefight (especially against a superior force) without a sidearm? Literally stupid that there are at least not a magnum to go with a BR as you stated. It’s becoming harder and harder for me to keep finding excuses for 343 and it’s starting to get frustrating, especially because I am the only of my friends who has not forsaken Halo for CoD or some other trash.
My best friend LOVED magnums, and was damn good with them too, and he’s even magnummed out at this point, I mean come on. I am all for some different loadouts, etc, hell even some CTF or something coming to swat, but the ratio of magnums V. BRs is absolutely STAGGERING. I would wager that I play 75-25% in favor of magnums. I’m not sure if I listed it above or not, but I literally played 14 games of Swatnums in a row the other night. It’s ludicrous.
Also, Adversity, I think I played with you last night randomly? Your gt strikes a cord in my memory lol
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> I am literally about to rage. 343 has taken everything that was beautiful about SWAT, halo, and matchmaking in general, and turned it into an abomination. I am currently loading my 12th game of SWATNUMS IN A ROW. Where is the voting? Where is the BR? Where is the DMR? The Carbine? Hell, give me something other than a friggen magnum and let me play. I’m literally so over this busted matchmaking system. Every other game developer in the world with a credible multiplayer game allows voting. 343 wants to hype up there matchmaking? It’s trash. Literally garbage. I’m over it, and a life-long halo franchise buyer/player/lover.
I actually like the fact that we can no longer vote. I played the same thing over and over again when people voted.
I also play a lot of swat. I have not had a streak like yours. I think it is quite an anomaly.
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> > I am literally about to rage. 343 has taken everything that was beautiful about SWAT, halo, and matchmaking in general, and turned it into an abomination. I am currently loading my 12th game of SWATNUMS IN A ROW. Where is the voting? Where is the BR? Where is the DMR? The Carbine? Hell, give me something other than a friggen magnum and let me play. I’m literally so over this busted matchmaking system. Every other game developer in the world with a credible multiplayer game allows voting. 343 wants to hype up there matchmaking? It’s trash. Literally garbage. I’m over it, and a life-long halo franchise buyer/player/lover.
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And that’s cool man. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I, for one, do not see the need to try and fix what isn’t broken so to speak. The matchmaking was absolutely perfect the way it was. Now, I am not senile or naive enough to not realize that matchmaking is going to change over time. People want a more tactical gamestyle, awesome. People want multilevel maps, awesome. BUT why would you take away the core of what made your game your game, and conform to everything else and follow CoD, example? Because it sells. Simple as that. I would wager that I have been killed in more ridiculous ways in this game (spawn kills, cross map garbage, stabilizers, spartan charges, campers, etc) than any other Halo installment. This halo honestly doesn’t feel like halo to me. It’s completely new in terms of style of play and I love a learning curve and expect it as much as the next guy, but playing the same maps, playing magnums more than BRs, and not having a sidearm is absolutely not what Halo is about. I am obviously complaining only about SWAT as I don’t have enough slayer experience to wager an opinion. Give people a primary, a secondary, and AIM FOR THE HEAD. Especially now when you have kids that can literally sit in a corner and spawn kill the entire game, especially when it only takes one shot in something like SWAT. if they can fix the busted spawn system, which has improved, but also still needs work, then I suppose I will concede and rest my case. As long as I can make it out of my spawn and have at least a fair chance at hitting someone, not this falling down again as soon as my timer hits zero crap, then I will concede and live with it. HOWEVER, what I refuse to concede on is the inability to vote, which is my opinion just as you’re entitled to your own, but literally every other credible game developer with a decent matchmaking typically does this. Give the players SOME power. If you’re going to take our sidearms, take the DMR, etc. out of the game, then by God at least let us choose our own maps…
I wish I was as lucky as yourself. More skill based with the magnum. Also map voting allows everyone to do the same thing every time and run it into the ground, more variety this way. Except maybe in your swatnums case.
Yeah, the DMR dead, battle rifles vanishing from existance, and last of all magnums have taken over, nobody uses the DMR from how rare it is, and in almost every game I play everyone is using the magnum. They should nerf the magnum, and make stuff so it revolves around the true halo weapons, not the secondary ones.
Bring back the DMR best maps for SWAT, Eden and Empire are needed are excellent for SWAT should have more open maps as Halo Reach and even Halo 4, the give much weight to the Magnum and the BR is taking away that feeling that is the best of the entire series SWAT, SWAT far the best for me is Halo Reach.
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> And that’s cool man. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I, for one, do not see the need to try and fix what isn’t broken so to speak. The matchmaking was absolutely perfect the way it was. Now, I am not senile or naive enough to not realize that matchmaking is going to change over time. People want a more tactical gamestyle, awesome. People want multilevel maps, awesome. BUT why would you take away the core of what made your game your game, and conform to everything else and follow CoD, example? Because it sells. Simple as that. I would wager that I have been killed in more ridiculous ways in this game (spawn kills, cross map garbage, stabilizers, spartan charges, campers, etc) than any other Halo installment. This halo honestly doesn’t feel like halo to me. It’s completely new in terms of style of play and I love a learning curve and expect it as much as the next guy, but playing the same maps, playing magnums more than BRs, and not having a sidearm is absolutely not what Halo is about. I am obviously complaining only about SWAT as I don’t have enough slayer experience to wager an opinion. Give people a primary, a secondary, and AIM FOR THE HEAD. Especially now when you have kids that can literally sit in a corner and spawn kill the entire game, especially when it only takes one shot in something like SWAT. if they can fix the busted spawn system, which has improved, but also still needs work, then I suppose I will concede and rest my case. As long as I can make it out of my spawn and have at least a fair chance at hitting someone, not this falling down again as soon as my timer hits zero crap, then I will concede and live with it. HOWEVER, what I refuse to concede on is the inability to vote, which is my opinion just as you’re entitled to your own, but literally every other credible game developer with a decent matchmaking typically does this. Give the players SOME power. If you’re going to take our sidearms, take the DMR, etc. out of the game, then by God at least let us choose our own maps…
I think you hit it on the head. It all comes down to money. If you don’t know where the money comes from, then you are not doing something right… from a business perspective. If the company just allowed them to do whatever they want, would they make the money they need to thrive? I am a core believer in the Agile Methodology. They do need to listen to their users and gain feedback. If most people want to bring back the DMR and BR start only, then so be it. One thing that I have also learned over time is that there is only one constant: i.e. change. It’s very easy to look back and say this was perfect. If you don’t like how it is now, then don’t play. Don’t give them your money. It’s a choice.
I agree with the OP, I play SWAT almost religiously and I actually get SWATNUMS more than I do SWAT. On Halos in the past, SWATNUMS was an oddity, something that only cropped up every once and awhile. Now the playlist might as well be renamed to SWATNUMS because apparently the BR is the sidearm. It’s extremely frustrating and absolutely ruins the flow of the game. I think the magnum should be a sidearm every game, screw magnum starts, I already have to use the magnum enough in every other playlist because of AR starts (which is disgusting enough as it is).
SWAT need more open maps, bring back the DMR, the Carbine, Rifle Light, SWATNUMS sucks !!!
I’m on the 20th DMR-Swat in a row.
I don’t mind DMR swat… but it comes up way too much. I’ve played about 5 matches today and 4 of those were DMR.
It’s -Yoinking!- 343… every time those -Yoink- clownshoes come up with something new it suddenly becomes 90% of what you’ll play. They make a new map, guess what, you’ll be stuck on that map 6 times before you play on an old map you haven’t done in over a week.