Suppressor users, a hand if you will

So I’ve started working on suppressor mastery. I’ve done the other two autos already and the suppressor seems, well, garbage. It was alright before the update but kinda got left in the dust with the buffs. Any suppressor fans out there got a tip or two to make this a little less painful?

I like it quite a bit, but I don’t use it too too much anymore. The best tips I can give you are burst fire it, use mobility to get close to them, use dexterity incase you need to reload while in combat, try not to jetpack too high if you’re going to use that AA because you’ll be outside of the Sup’s best range, and try to have fun with it. Multi team games on Haven would probably be good for kills if that’s what you’re looking for, otherwise pick your favorite load-out enable playlist and go to town. Good luck.

Thanks man

I find a clever use of cover and rapid map movement helps. Also using grenades to drop shields before engaging. CQC maps and ffa playlists are best, Dispatch being my favorite for this weapon. I can usually get between 15-20 kills a game. I find in team games you will end up with more assists than kills from precision weapon users.

Good luck

I 7/7ed my suppressor before the weapon tune came out and I still use it now, and will say its better, but MUCH harder to use. The suppressor already had slow moving projectiles that made it nessisary to be close to be effective. Now that the aim assist has been cut in half you need to lead your shots and aim very well as well as get close. It’s not easy but if you do get this down it will melt people like butter on hot coals.

Meeeeehhhhhhh, I’m not even going to fiddle with it.

Thanks for the input. Storm rifle wasn’t too much different than the AR, but this beast is a world apart. Have to rethink my whole movement style, but I guess I should be doing that anyways :wink: Getting the leading down is the tough part but so far it’s not as bad as the plasma pistol was, and I hated the pulse grenades at first, too.

Circle your enemies up close and make every shot count.

I cant hit anything with the storm rifle. I do much better with the suppressor for some reason. I died many times mastering the pulse grenade and I still cant get that 2 kills for 1 pulse grenade cheevo.

Yes, after tuning Supppressor is useless. I used to kill a lot of people with it in the matchmaking before. I actually used it much more than AR. Right now it’s niche is so narrow that any precission rifle user will beat it with just melee > headshot.

2 less projectiles to kill + more usefull (not falling apart as fast) reticle is absolute minimum if we want it to handle other (especially precission) weapons. However, same goes to Storm Rifle…

> <mark>Yes, after tuning Supppressor is useless.</mark> I used to kill a lot of people with it in the matchmaking before. I actually used it much more than AR. Right now it’s niche is so narrow that any precission rifle user will beat it with just melee > headshot.
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> 2 less projectiles to kill + more usefull (not falling apart as fast) reticle is absolute minimum if we want it to handle other (especially precission) weapons. However, same goes to Storm Rifle…

No you’re using it wrong

> > <mark>Yes, after tuning Supppressor is useless.</mark> I used to kill a lot of people with it in the matchmaking before. I actually used it much more than AR. Right now it’s niche is so narrow that any precission rifle user will beat it with just melee > headshot.
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> > 2 less projectiles to kill + more usefull (not falling apart as fast) reticle is absolute minimum if we want it to handle other (especially precission) weapons. However, same goes to Storm Rifle…
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> No you’re using it wrong

I’m using it as cqc weapon (so close that it’s main opponents are melees). If it doesn’t work in it’s niche any more, that means it’s not balanced well.

> > > <mark>Yes, after tuning Supppressor is useless.</mark> I used to kill a lot of people with it in the matchmaking before. I actually used it much more than AR. Right now it’s niche is so narrow that any precission rifle user will beat it with just melee > headshot.
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> > > 2 less projectiles to kill + more usefull (not falling apart as fast) reticle is absolute minimum if we want it to handle other (especially precission) weapons. However, same goes to Storm Rifle…
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> > No you’re using it wrong
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> I’m using it as cqc weapon (so close that it’s main opponents are melees). If it doesn’t work in it’s niche any more, that means it’s not balanced well.

I’ve only started using it and it works great

> I’ve only started using it and it works great

I dare to disagree. Probably because I remember the weapon that on most maps was as useful as BR…

Ladies and Gentleman, the Suppressor.

Use firepower package and pair it with a precision rifle. BR or Carbine seems to be better since you’re already engaging targets at closer ranges. Dexterity is good addition too, but Explosive is another versatile choice. Use fragmentation grenades because those have a large blast radius and do a significant amount of damage to your enemies.

Use the precision weapon for main use, only switch to the suppressor when you have an advantage. I don’t used it too much, but I’m familiar with it. Knowing it’s powers and weaknesses, I recommend to try out this method. Team based objective game types are the best. Those are give you good opportunities to flank the enemy and try out tactics in-game, not just on paper.

I don’t recommend to use it without a second primary because basic side-arms won’t be enough to work well with the suppressor. The Plasma Pistol isn’t particularly useful in itself, the Boltshot isn’t that good outside close quarters and the magnum don’t have enough ammo in a single magazine to deal with more enemies at once (which is really frequent, thanks to the team based game types) and also not that spammable as a BR or a Carbine.

The suppressor is not a bad finishing weapon but you always puts yourself in danger when you switches to it. Never engage more then one enemy at once, the suppressor is not enough flexible for it. It’s leaves you with the job undone, and your corpse lying on the floor. You always can be lucky, but I advise to rely on the BR or Carbine at your back. Bare hands maybe sounds barbaric, but works well with the up-close and personal play style that the suppressor is offer.

For AA’s, everything that gives you an edge are welcome. Thruster Pack can save your life in a dangerous situation, giving you enough time to switch weapons (relatively quickly with Dexterity) or survive a fatal explosion or hit. Regeneration Field is also a good choice. Since the suppressor has the fastest time to kill from any primary weapon, it’s easily can outperform any primary weapon inside a regen field. The suppressor is also the most lethal inside the field’s radius. This ability either can save your (and your team-mates) life or can turn things in your favor. Hologram is also a great fit, giving you the opportunity to distract the enemy and also giving you the edge of taking the first shots. Thanks to the relatively quick time to kill, your opponent is already at least half-dead before he/she realize your attack. Effectively turn them into dead man walking.

The load-out itself:

  • Battle Rifle / Carbine
  • Suppressor
  • Frag Grenade
  • Thruster Pack / Regen Field / Hologram
  • Firepower
  • Dexterity

Souds like too much work for me.

> Ladies and Gentleman, the Suppressor.
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So… Suppressor is secondary weapon? That’s far from what I expect it to be. I expect it to be berserker’s choice when it goes to small maps, or at least stalker’s primary tool on most maps.

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So… Suppressor is secondary weapon? That’s far from what I expect it to be. I expect it to be berserker’s choice when it goes to small maps, or at least stalker’s primary tool on most maps.
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My statement is came from personal experience. The suppressor isn’t worth it’s place as your primary weapon. The other’s are not just more versatile but can do the job done. Using a suppressor is nearly always puts you in disadvantage against others. Other fully automatic weapons can fight back, and if you want to secure a kill with the suppressor you need to be close, which means it’s melee range. One melee and a headshot finishes you off if even before you can secure the kill with the suppressor. The suppressor also (like the other autos in Halo 4) can’t engage more than one target successfully, too many projectiles need to hit. Grenades seems to be a good choice, but their usage is limited. Even paired with the resupply module, you can pick a better module from it’s slot (like the firepower, which give you much more flexibility). You can try to turn melee attacks in your favor, but since you want to get the kill with the Suppressor, not with your bare hands, it’s not a good idea.
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> > Being a berserker with a relatively weak weapon was never a good mindset in a Halo game. I only recommend that kind of play if you have Over-shield, Damage Boost or Speed boost. You need any little advantage you can get to use the suppressor effectively.
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> > It’s more likely to be a secondary weapon. It’s saves you up close, when somebody is at your back, or you have to reload your main weapon. It’s performs pretty decent as a defensive tool but it’s really poor as an offensive tool. For ones whose are not familiar with standard sidearms, the suppressor will be a good fit. Personally, I’d rather have an empty magnum, than a fully loaded suppressor. Why? Because everything that the suppressor can do, my fists can do even better.
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> > The suppressor is a challenging weapon and not everybody likes challenges. It’s require you to adapt your play style for it’s unique pros and cons. In my option, it isn’t good enough to be my primary.
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Point is, it shouldn’t be challenging weapon. It should be function (even if niched) primary weapon. Right now it’s niche is so narrow, that even precission rifles are beating it on it’s own backyard. Melee > headshot is faster than shooting with Suppressor, and beyond that range Suppressor is useless.

And we’re talking about weapon which in it’s niche could go against SAW.

> Point is, it shouldn’t be challenging weapon. It should be function (even if niched) primary weapon. Right now it’s niche is so narrow, that even precission rifles are beating it on it’s own backyard. Melee > headshot is faster than shooting with Suppressor, and beyond that range Suppressor is useless.
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> And we’re talking about weapon which in it’s niche could go against SAW.

The suppressor lack something that every other primaries have: Versatility.