My opinion. Suck it. Population prefers Team Slayer though. Why?
Question:
Are people just so stuck to their ways that change scares them, or do people just mindlessly assume that Super Slayer is just some new form of Action Sack that they don’t want to even bother trying out?
Super Slayer/TU = Reach “fixed” <---- my opinion again.
Isn’t it like 7k team slayer and 1.3k super slayer or something?
> Isn’t it like 7k team slayer and 1.3k super slayer or something?
Yes. I believe now, that the average player has know idea what the Title Update even is. I wish Reach had an in game explanation page that explains everything about the playlists at all times.
Reach Team Slayer is so heavily populated because of the following:
That’s it.
If you took Arena, and named it Team Slayer, it’d have 7000 people in it tomorrow.
> Reach Team Slayer is so heavily populated because of the following:
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> 1. It’s the first choice in the competitive hopper.
> 2. It lives off the fame of Halo 3’s Team Slayer. People see it and associate it with how great Halo 3’s ranked Team Slayer was.
> 3. People enjoy dumbed down gameplay.
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> That’s it.
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> If you took Arena, and named it Team Slayer, it’d have 7000 people in it tomorrow.
I some how knew it was just the name. Why not rename Super Slayer, Team Slayer (Title Updated)?
I’m still pretty confused by this as well. I avoid Team Slayer at all costs, even though I own when I play it. There are just a lot of people who simply can’t do well without fully functioning armor lock and other noobities.
> My opinion.
My opinion is the opposite and seems to co-align with the overwhelming vast majority of current Halo players.
> Suck it.
No thank you.
> Population prefers Team Slayer though.
100% true.
> Why?
My opinion is that TS is the game the bought and learned how to play and they have no desire to relearn the game restructured for a small group of players that stomped their feet like tantruming children until they got their way, sorta.
> Question:
Good, I got answers.
> Are people just so stuck to their ways that change scares them?
Yes and this explains the reluctance of some to accept that Reach is a different game then its predecessors.
> Or do people just mindlessly assume that Super Slayer is just some new form of Action Sack that they don’t want to even bother trying out?
That might be a safe assumption if Super Slayer and TU setting had not got the star treatment over the last couple of months with jackpot weekends, title prompts explaining the changes and a slurry of forums explaining the changes, a test vote in TS where it is obvious the results did not go in the TU’s favor and finally A few playlist where people had the choice, updated TS or good old fashion Reach which the results speak for themselves everyday. (bit of a run-on sentence, but oh well, this is not English class)
> Super Slayer/TU = Reach “fixed” <mark>for me personally</mark> <---- my opinion again.
I “fixed” that for you, little trick I learned on Bnet.
The only thing the TU did was cater to a minority of players who have a particular preference in playstyle. 343 gave all the special players a little corner to go play in and as an added extra bonus forced the TU in standard playlist like BTB like rape.
Consider yourself lucky, but be forewarned, nobody is going to receive that type of treatment when Halo 4 is released, as Bungie did for their tenure over their hard work (Reach), 343 will do the same over theirs (Halo 4), they wont change base mechanics for anyone.
super slayer=reach fixed? No it doesn’t…It so does not equal that. The closest thing to reach being fix is something called the mlg playlist. Thats as close as it’s gonna get.
> Population prefers Team Slayer though. Why?
Because Team Slayer is called Team Slayer. No other reason.
In playlists that are properly affected by them, more people play TU settings as opposed to vanilla.
> Yes. I believe now, that the average player has know idea what the Title Update even is. I wish Reach had an in game explanation page that explains everything about the playlists at all times.
Isn’t that proof enough that the differences between TS and SS are negligible? That the differences are too small for the population to notice? That’s why the whole argument really makes no sense. Vanilla and TU are too similar for most people to even notice.
Which really means, the issues that the TU “fixed” weren’t at all a big deal. The forum community (which represents a small minority of players) just whined a ton about them, so they always seem like a huge deal.
> My opinion. Suck it. Population prefers Team Slayer though. Why?
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> Question:
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> Are people just so stuck to their ways that change scares them, or do people just mindlessly assume that Super Slayer is just some new form of Action Sack that they don’t want to even bother trying out?
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> Super Slayer/TU = Reach “fixed” <---- my opinion again.
Just the fact that they call it “Super Slayer” makes me not want to play it. I am a huge fan of TU settings though. I loved Squad Slayer and wouldn’t mind playing that again.
> Just the fact that they call it “Super Slayer” makes me not want to play it. I am a huge fan of TU settings though. I loved Squad Slayer and wouldn’t mind playing that again.
The names should be swapped.
Vanilla settings are no longer the default and they shouldn’t be treated as such.
“TU” should get removed from gametypes and “Vanilla” should be added to non TU’d gametypes that aren’t affected by it(i.e SWAT, Snipers, Grifball etc).
They both make me upset, jet pack is abused in both of them, of all the AA’s thats the only one I feel is broken. It recks map flow and people fly up and spam LT and get cheap kills that lack any skill. Its not an issue on the bigger maps and BTB but it is the the majority of the time in 4v4. So until they take out that AA I’ll be playing arena and aniversary as far as 4v4 goes.
It’s quite strange since playing Super Slayer for the first time two weeks ago i found it was a lot better then Team Slayer. The Pop size should be much larger then what it currently is.
OP: You’re kinda wrong on that one.
MLG > Arena > Super Slayer > Team Slayer
I would have added TU ZB, but that is now gone.
> They both make me upset, jet pack is abused in both of them, of all the AA’s thats the only one I feel is broken. It recks map flow and people fly up and spam LT and get cheap kills that lack any skill. Its not an issue on the bigger maps and BTB but it is the the majority of the time in 4v4. So until they take out that AA I’ll be playing arena and aniversary as far as 4v4 goes.
Every single AA, except for maybe hologram, WRECKS the game on some level. Jet pack murders map flow AND combat. If some guy hovers, then your grenades are worthless against him. On a map like uncaged, he can fly into the “safe zone” while still shooting you. AL kills the flow of battle and makes players just run out all carelessly. Active cam…spawning with unlimited active cam…do i even need to talk about why this is effing broken as hell? Sprint wouldn’t be that much of an issue if there were bleed through damage. Personally, i’d rather have faster base movement.
I can say the same exact thing about Reach in general…
I have no idea what Super Slayer is. I played it twice and there was no noticeable difference from Team Slayer. That’s why I don’t play it.
> I have no idea what Super Slayer is. I played it twice and there was no noticeable difference from Team Slayer. That’s why I don’t play it.
Welcome to Waypoint.
This is exactly is what the majority of Reach players would say…
What they should do, for a month of testing purposes, is move super slayer into the first hopper slot. Call it team slayer. 2nd hopper spot, vanilla reach. See what the population is then and choose to adjust it if need be after a month of testing.
The reason no one plays Super is becasue no one knows what it is. Plain and simple.