Just out of curiosity, if playlists were retired based on population, and Super Slayer every single time I looked in the past month was at most 3/4 of the population of Action Sack, why is it still around?
Is it because 343 doesn’t want to admit no one really likes their crappy TU changes?
I vote to retire Super Slayer and bring back Action Sack. Last I looked before it was taken down, it is beating 9 of the remaining playlists in population.
While you’re at it, have your matchmaking guys do some scripting and make new gametypes for it to boost it’s very decent population, or have you still not figured out Megalo yet?
> Is it because 343 doesn’t want to admit no one really likes their crappy TU changes?
Because many players do prefer their TU settings.
> > Is it because 343 doesn’t want to admit no one really likes their crappy TU changes?
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> Because many players do prefer their TU settings.
If they removed playlists because of population, you can’t tell me that Super Slayer is ‘preferred’ when it doesn’t even have 3/4’s of Action Sack’s population. Try again?
> Is it because 343 doesn’t want to admit no one really likes their crappy TU changes?
Everyone I know prefers TU, and all of the people I know who quit playing Halo quit because they thought Vanilla Reach was an outright insult to the name “Halo.” Just because you like your fights to be random, and you enjoy players being given access to an in-game pause button doesn’t mean people didn’t like the TU.
> > > Is it because 343 doesn’t want to admit no one really likes their crappy TU changes?
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> > Because many players do prefer their TU settings.
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> If they removed playlists because of population, you can’t tell me that Super Slayer is ‘preferred’ when it doesn’t even have 3/4’s of Action Sack’s population. Try again?
Super Slayer is staying as it’s the TU’d version of Team Slayer.
> > Is it because 343 doesn’t want to admit no one really likes their crappy TU changes?
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> Everyone I know prefers TU, and all of the people I know who quit playing Halo quit because they thought Vanilla Reach was an outright insult to the name “Halo.” Just because you like your fights to be random, and you enjoy players being given access to an in-game pause button doesn’t mean people didn’t like the TU.
Nice random assumptions, but none of those things are why I don’t think people don’t like it, the numbers 343 is giving me on the in-game display of playlist population is telling me that. It usually has about a quarter the population of normal slayer, and it not up to par with playlists they removed BECAUSE OF LOW POPULATION.
Good to see many people on this forum with high post counts like to make things up and ignore the topics, no wonder people always complain about how bad these forums are.
> Super Slayer is staying as it’s the TU’d version of Team Slayer.
Thanks for the legitimate response, but unfortunately that is an excuse, not a reason. That’s basically saying it’s not there on it’s own merit, but purely to be counterpoint to an existing playlist.
Although that would be quite ironic if they were keeping SS for variety, when they removed Action Sack which is practically designed for variety and introducing new gametypes. Introducing is the key word to my Megalo point in the topic, WE don’t have access to documentation for Megalo, nor do we have a compiler for the scripts, yet from the people who DO have them what have we seen them come up with since they took over? Attaching a bomb spawn to a golf ball. That’s it. (No, turning engine hooks ON and OFF does not count as scripting, so don’t say TU settings)
How many times does Moa have to say “Team Slayer will remain vanilla for the people who enjoy it” before someone realizes it works for Super Slayer too?
> How many times does Moa have to say “Team Slayer will remain vanilla for the people who enjoy it” before someone realizes it works for Super Slayer too?
Because I made that argument in the first post.
> How many times does Moa have to say “Team Slayer will remain vanilla for the people who enjoy it” before someone realizes it works for Super Slayer too?
You cannot use Team Slayer as an excuse for Super Slayer existing, although you can certainly use it’s much larger population as a reason for Super Slayers discontinuance.
TS and SS were split into separate playlists, that is when all ties between them were cut, you sound as ridiculous to me as would someone arguing that Grifball should always remain a playlist as an alternative to Team Objective.
ONE of those two (completely seperate) playlists has a lower population (along with 8 other remaining playlists) than a playlist removed for LOW POPULATION. Don’t hide behind Team Slayer as a reason for Super Slayer remaining, it is an irrelevant point.
Super slayer exists and will continue to exist because those people specifically voted for it so very hard. In terms of democratic mandate, super slayer has a right to exist for a very long time and no right to be removed. Some would argue that super slayer was never voted for, but the fact is they voted for a TU team slayer and thats exactly what they got. Its the only list that was directly voted into existence.
Thats your answer.
> Super slayer exists and will continue to exist because those people specifically voted for it so very hard. In terms of democratic mandate, super slayer has a right to exist for a very long time and no right to be removed. Some would argue that super slayer was never voted for, but the fact is they voted for a TU team slayer and thats exactly what they got. Its the only list that was directly voted into existence.
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> Thats your answer.
That is a lie, it was never voted for. What was voted for was which would be the SOLE remaining gametpye in the slayer playlist.
Then 343 came out and said that the votes were too close and they couldn’t tell a clear winner, so it would be split in two. That was THEIR choice. You might need to brush up on your democratic theory, but that’s not how voting works.
All you have done is reinforce my assumption that the only reason they are keeping it is because 343 just simply wants to, which is entirely counterpoint to their claim of pruning playlists to help playlist population (which would be entirely statistical and not have anything to do with their personal preference of what should stay).
Or they could just do the smart thing and bring back Squad Slayer.
> That is a lie, it was never voted for. What was voted for was which would be the SOLE remaining gametpye in the slayer playlist.
I dont believe they ever explicitly stated that, but it was assumed by us and they never bothered to clarify until SURPRISE SUPER SLAYER. As you said, given the votes it was the only sensible thing to do. I dont know if youve watched the news or been outside lately, but that actually is how real ‘democracy’ works a great deal of the time. It is what it is.
Not too bothered about arguing it though, way in the past.