Ok, so I love Halo and everything about it. For the most part. What i don’t understand is why in the halo story they have new vehicles in Halo Reach and not in any of the other Halo titles. See Halo Reach, in the story timeline, was before any of the other Halo games but they happen to have new vehicles and new weapons that they don’t have in any of the other games except the DMR that made it in Halo 4. For Example, the Revenant is in Reach, witch is the start of the Halo Timeline (practically)but it happens to not appear in any other game after that. I understand the new Mantis because Halo 4 is the history’s latest title but come on. I’m upset with the lack of sense made in the Halo History.
All i want to know is why they had these vehicles and weapons but were only around in the year of 2552 CE. Please give me these reasons so I can then forgive Halo and love it to its fullest again.
A) Gameplay > all, having all of halo 2 and 3’s weapons and vehicles be ‘invented’ in the few months between games doesn’t make sense. Nor does upholding all the franchise to h1’s limited selection.
B) Not all weapons and vehicles are everywhere. I doubt the AR suddenly decided to leave service for halo 2’s time period, where the UNSC suddenly decided it needed a smaller clip for halo 3’s time.
Brutes unlikely got shaved between halo 2 and 3, especially since they are already shaved and heavily armored during ODST.
They were around in the time of the other games, it’s just the Covenant wasn’t using them as there were better vehicles they had for the situations in the original trilogy.
Also, it’s mentioned in one of the novels that the Revenant was the most common vehicle left over after the war for the Covies. 343 was just lazy.
As Noble 6, John , The Arbiter and the Rookie, they do not get the entire armory of both the UNSC and the Covenant in one game.
They only get access to these things when they are available. If a vehicle isn’t there in one game and not the other, its simply because they never ran into it.
If a weapon acts differently than a previous version, it is because there are multiple versions of that weapon.
Thanks guys it is just my OCD kicking in. LOL I am a realy big fan of the story and timeline and that made me mad but know i can finally forget about it. Thanks guys.
> Ok, so I love Halo and everything about it. For the most part. What i don’t understand
Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean there is a flaw. It has been explained several times that Reach is from an Army perspective and that many of the technologies from both sides were lost during that engagement.
> It has been explained several times that Reach is from an Army perspective and that many of the technologies from both sides were lost during that engagement.
Not sure if “lost” is the right word. The UNSC certainly lost a lot of it’s manufacturing capacity and research facilities, but I would be extremely disappointed if a ton of technology was lost forever when Reach was glassed. What, has nobody ever heard of ‘backups’ in the future?
As for the Covenant, they certainly lost a lot of materiel (though only a fraction compared to the total reserves of the Covenant) but they didn’t lose any technology.
The reason why vehicles and weapons show up in one game and not another is almost purely gameplay.
You can actually tell when a Covenant weapon first appeared through the T-## system. It’s not perfect, because people (Not just 343i) keep forgetting about it, but it’s interesting nonetheless.
> 2 reasons
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> B) Not all weapons and vehicles are everywhere. I doubt the AR suddenly decided to leave service for halo 2’s time period, where the UNSC suddenly decided it needed a smaller clip for halo 3’s time.
Actually, the Assault Rifle’s we see in CE and 3/ODST are not the same model. The MA5B (CE), which had been in use since at least the start of the human-Covenant war, was being phased out and replaced by the MA5C (3/ODST). The MA5C was then replaced by the MA5D, which happened a little too quickly to be believed, in my opinion.
I’ll will be pissed if we end up seeing replacements for the AR, BR, DMR, and the like in Halo 5, as there is no need for a military to replace weapons so quickly. The same could be said about MJOLNIR. The S-IIs went 20 or so years without an upgrade, then suddenly, in 2552/2553 there are four variants developed in rabid succession. Why waste all that money on the Mark VI when the Mark VII was apparently a few months away?
Marines use the BR while the Army use the DMR, as Chief we are with marines as Noble 6 we are with the army, In Halo 4 we are with a mix of both so they use both the DMR and BR
> > It has been explained several times that Reach is from an Army perspective and that many of the technologies from both sides were lost during that engagement.
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> Not sure if “lost” is the right word.
> > > It has been explained several times that Reach is from an Army perspective and that many of the technologies from both sides were lost during that engagement.
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> > Not sure if “lost” is the right word.
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> That is the exact official reasoning given to us.
Lost means either cant be recovered, or are destroyed by covie glassing.
Lost is an alright word to use.
> > 2 reasons
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> > B) Not all weapons and vehicles are everywhere. I doubt the AR suddenly decided to leave service for halo 2’s time period, where the UNSC suddenly decided it needed a smaller clip for halo 3’s time.
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> Actually, the Assault Rifle’s we see in CE and 3/ODST are not the same model. The MA5B (CE), which had been in use since at least the start of the human-Covenant war, was being phased out and replaced by the MA5C (3/ODST).
So the UNSC decided the NEW AR needed a clip almost half the size. Not much difference, and kind of a silly choice.
The old AR is a bit more inaccurate and has lower stopping power sort of, but this doesn’t seem to be tied to any change in the bullets they fire.
