i like using a diversity of gun but i feel like the stormrifle, carbine and suppressor are not up to par with the other guns. The AR works well in close range and the DMR,BR,and lightrifle have their share of advantages and disadvantages but they are all very useful. Does anyone else feel this way? if someone uses one and does very well with it id love to know what you do! I just feel like im always getting my butt kicked when i use one of those 3 guns.
emh, I dont see the disadvantage with the DMR … It’s fairly easy to use close up and on long range, it also has the fastest kill times.
I’ve been killed by the carbine and suppressor quite a few times now. The carbine is an 8 shot kill but it has a faster fire rate so add that to a grenade blast and you’ll get a lot of kills. Suppressor doesn’t have the range of the AR but up close its a monster. As for the storm rifle I have no idea.
The storm rifle is basically the new name for the plasma rifle or the plasma repeater. Sure, those two also existed alongside each other in Reach, technically, they’re so darn similar. Why the developers love to keep coming up with new names and looks for the same weapon is unclear!
I use the suppressor as my secondary and at close range only a power weapon can beat it. Storm rifle seems useless and unless you have a super fast trigger finger it’s the same for the Carbine.
Carbine is beast if you dont miss. At close to medium range not only is the carbine powerful but its noise and glow seem to be very distracting to the person you are facing. I was doing some work with it last night.
> Carbine is beast if you dont miss. At close to medium range not only is the carbine powerful but its noise and glow seem to be very distracting to the person you are facing. I was doing some work with it last night.
What game mode are you using it in? i feel like it may be solid in BTB or something with large maps but not so nice in regular slayer. Im really curious.
The storm rifle is very rewarding and fun to play with. The projectiles have a travel time, but you never have to reload this weapon. Sometimes the enemies just keep coming, but you don’t stop shooting. The heat is manageable with some control, you usually want to stop firing anyway so you can lead your target if he changes directions or you change targets. short bursts reduce the storm rifles spread, but it’s still a very weak weapon at mid range because of the projectiles travel time. Between having to lead your target ,managing heat, and spread. the storm rifle has the highest skill curve and most theoretical potential of the three.
The suppressor is kind of boring. The spread is -Yoinking!- huge, and it’s literally a point and shoot gun. Don’t have to lead the target at all, it’s really only useful in extremely close situations. However, it is very strong. Sometimes I can just nade and spray down 2 Spartans easy pz. Also the most situational of the 3 weapons.
The AR is good all around. slower kill rate than the others , but makes up for it with accuracy and more range. practical / competitive choice.
The storm rifle and carbine are both my to go weapons and I’ve been using both quite alot. The storm rifle is good and I’m very glad they’ve finally made the covy rifle good in this game. However the Carbine is weak and clearly the worst rifle of them all… It has terrible accuracy, worse than the magnum, and you always have to waste almost an entire clip just to get the kill. Not to mention how hard it is to get a HS at range.
I don’t understand why 343 had to make a last minute nerf… The carbine is useless now.
I’ve been killed by the carbine quite a few times.
Someone on the forums by the name of Tol Eressea created https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst132440_Halo-4--Weapon-Damage--spreadsheet.aspx which shows some of the (tested) stats of all the guns.
Just thought I’d throw this here in case anyone was curious.
His TPK (time per kill) for the 3 are:
Suppressor= 1.31
Carbine= 1.66
Light Rifle= 2.12 unzoomed, 1.81 zoomed.
Lower = better.
All of these are lower than the DMR and BR.
I love the carbine it is the more forgiving than the br and dmr. What do you mean it was nurf I used it 5 hours ago and it was fine.
> I love the carbine it is the more forgiving than the br and dmr. What do you mean it was nurf I used it 5 hours ago and it was fine.
It was nerfed before the game went gold. I don’t think it is more forgiving since you HAVE to land all those 8 shots to get the kill, with the BR you only have to land 1 of the 3 shots in the final burst to get the kill wich makes it far more forgiving. The BR has also alot better accuracy wich makes it even easier.
> I love the carbine it is the more forgiving than the br and dmr. What do you mean it was nurf I used it 5 hours ago and it was fine.
I think what he meant is pre launch it was nurfed because it was OP when they were essentially doing the testing. I heard that it was at least
TBH, I really like the suppressor. It does wonders in Spartan Ops, but in War Games, I have to go with my beloved, SAW. Hands Down.
> Someone on the forums by the name of Tol Eressea created https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst132440_Halo-4--Weapon-Damage--spreadsheet.aspx which shows some of the (tested) stats of all the guns.
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> Just thought I’d throw this here in case anyone was curious.
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> His TPK (time per kill) for the 3 are:
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> Suppressor= 1.31
> Carbine= 1.66
> Storm Rifle= 2.12 unzoomed, 1.81 zoomed.
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> Lower = better.
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> All of these are lower than the DMR and BR.
I am pretty sure the DMR has a faster killtime than the others except the the zoomed Light Rifle but the statistics show the DMRs killtime when the bloom has reached 0 before the next shot is fired.
> The storm rifle and carbine are both my to go weapons and I’ve been using both quite alot. The storm rifle is good and I’m very glad they’ve finally made the covy rifle good in this game. However the Carbine is weak and clearly the worst rifle of them all… It has terrible accuracy, worse than the magnum, and you always have to waste almost an entire clip just to get the kill. Not to mention how hard it is to get a HS at range.
> I don’t understand why 343 had to make a last minute nerf… The carbine is useless now.
While I do agree that it can be tougher to get body/head shots w/ the carbine as opposed to other rifles, I don’t think it’s the worst rifle of them all.
The max amount of shots someone can take from it is 13 shots. 5 of those shots are assuming no head shot. The clip holds 18 shots, so you would have to miss 5 shots in general and get no head shots for the last 5 shots to not kill someone.
A bonus that it has is it’s speed. It has almost double the speed per shot than any other rifle. It also has fastest time to kill out of any of the rifle, so if you can use it right then you it could possibly be pretty good.
I’ve been using the carbine as my primary the whole time and I really liek it.
DMR has bloom, BR shoots bursts, both of which make them harder to use. Carbine is single shot with no bloom. I can’t think of an advantage over light rifle but I haven’t unlocked that yet.
> > The storm rifle and carbine are both my to go weapons and I’ve been using both quite alot. The storm rifle is good and I’m very glad they’ve finally made the covy rifle good in this game. However the Carbine is weak and clearly the worst rifle of them all… It has terrible accuracy, worse than the magnum, and you always have to waste almost an entire clip just to get the kill. Not to mention how hard it is to get a HS at range.
> > I don’t understand why 343 had to make a last minute nerf… The carbine is useless now.
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> While I do agree that it can be tougher to get body/head shots w/ the carbine as opposed to other rifles, I don’t think it’s the worst rifle of them all.
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> The max amount of shots someone can take from it is 13 shots. 5 of those shots are assuming no head shot. The clip holds 18 shots, so you would have to miss 5 shots in general and get no head shots for the last 5 shots to not kill someone.
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> A bonus that it has is it’s speed. It has almost double the speed per shot than any other rifle. It also has fastest time to kill out of any of the rifle, so if you can use it right then you it could possibly be pretty good.
I know it does have its high RoF but still the lack of accuracy and the low flinch makes it come second in many encounters vs the BR or DMR. All it takes is one or two shots not hitting the target and you’re done.
> > Someone on the forums by the name of Tol Eressea created https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst132440_Halo-4--Weapon-Damage--spreadsheet.aspx which shows some of the (tested) stats of all the guns.
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> > Just thought I’d throw this here in case anyone was curious.
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> > His TPK (time per kill) for the 3 are:
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> > Suppressor= 1.31
> > Carbine= 1.66
> > Storm Rifle= 2.12 unzoomed, 1.81 zoomed.
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> > Lower = better.
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> > All of these are lower than the DMR and BR.
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> I am pretty sure the DMR has a faster killtime than the others except the the zoomed Light Rifle but the statistics show the DMRs killtime when the bloom has reached 0 before the next shot is fired.
The storm rifle doesn’t have a zoom, i’m sure they’re refering to the light rifle which has different kill rates depending on if you’re zoomed or unzoomed.