Storm Rifle and Suppressor need buffing

Games Other Halo
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There is a reason why these two weapons, along with the Carbine, are literally non-existent in matchmaking. They suck. Period.

I’ve gotten 30+ kills with each of these weapons in good matches. However, that means absolutely nothing because if I had switched to the BR or DMR, I probably would have gotten 50+ kills because those weapons take so much less effort to use.

For the Storm Rifle, it kills slightly faster than the AR but is way less accurate and cannot be used well at mid range. I don’t think the damage should increase on this gun. I think the shots should do more damage to shields and less damage to armor. This would turn it into a major support weapon that would turn it into a deadly assist weapon when used in conjunction with precision weapons.

For the suppressor, it is UP because it kills only slightly faster than the storm rifle but has less range than the bolt shot.

I’m not really sure what should be done with this weapon. Increasing damage values seems like a lame thing to do. Instead, I think it’s mag should be increased by 50% so that it can kill two people with one Mag without reloading.

Both of these weapons will still be outclassed by precision users that are more skilled but at least but at least they would have a place in the sandbox.

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The two weapons are perfect. They are meant for close range. Don’t use them at middle range.

The Suppressor is meant to be a spray and pray weapon for just outside melee range. It is a Mini-SAW.

The Storm Rifle is the middle ground between the Suppressor and AR.

If anything, the AR is the weakest of the trio.

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> The two weapons are perfect. They are meant for close range. Don’t use them at middle range.
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> The Suppressor is meant to be a spray and pray weapon for just outside melee range. It is a Mini-SAW.
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> The Storm Rifle is the middle ground between the Suppressor and AR.
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> If anything, the AR is the weakest of the trio.

QFT

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> The two weapons are perfect. They are meant for close range. Don’t use them at middle range.
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> The Suppressor is meant to be a spray and pray weapon for just outside melee range. It is a Mini-SAW.
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> The Storm Rifle is the middle ground between the Suppressor and AR.
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> If anything, the AR is the weakest of the trio.

This.

I get killed by Storm Rifles and Suppressors all the time at close range. This isn’t Call of Duty. Assault weapons need to be used up close in order to be effective. At longer range, equip either a Battle Rifle or DMR.

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I DESTROY people with the suppressor, especially in regicide. This gun is the reason I’m always king! While I can see your point about range, I really don’t think this gun needs a buff. Just treat it like an smg, and this gun out performs all other automatic weapons. (Besides the SAW for obvious reasons :P)

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You guys must all have really low (invisible rank) because the people I’m playing with can consistently 5 shot with the DMR, this killing me at close range before I even knock out their shields.

If I switch to the DMR, I do fine but even I play close quarters with the automatics and get the jump on people, I get wrecked.

When I play against lesser skilled players (usually when playing against my lesser skilled friends) I own with any gun. But against others in my own skill, I am never killed by automatics and I can never kill with them either.

The weapon sandbox is balanced for casuals but it is DMR spam once you reach the high ranks. Nobody uses anything else or else they will lose.

I’m pretty sure 1500 out of my 2500 deaths are from the DMR. Most of the rest are from grenades, beat downs, power weapons and vehicles.

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> For the Storm Rifle, it kills slightly faster than the AR but is way less accurate and cannot be used well at mid range. I don’t think the damage should increase on this gun. I think the shots should do more damage to shields and less damage to armor. This would turn it into a major support weapon that would turn it into a deadly assist weapon when used in conjunction with precision weapons.

The Storm Rifle IS only slightly more powerful (it only takes one fewer round to kill - 14 vs the AR’s 15) AND it has much higher rate of fire with less reliable accuracy, but its key strength comes from two things - Its ammo pool and its overheat mechanism.

It comes with more ammo than any of the automatic loadout weapons (200 rounds standard, 300 with ammo) Which is massive.

The overheat mechanism is better than a reload system becuase you can vent the weapon while sprinting, using another weapon, or even using an armor ability such as the hardlight shield. And thats if it even overheats, if you control the RoF you can prevent it from doing so (assuming you are not dueling someone where you are forced to pin the trigger down).

> For the suppressor, it is UP because it kills only slightly faster than the storm rifle but has less range than the bolt shot.

It actually has the pretty much the same TTK as the Storm Rifle, but it is a much more forgiving weapon (due to a much higher RoF).

It does have the lowest damage - taking 19 hits to kill, but it also has the highest rate of fire, at about 885 RPM (compared to the SR 700, and the AR’s 580 - note those are all approximations from my own testing)

Its weaknesses are low accuracy and it has a very slow projectile speed, to the point where even in close quarters you may need to lead a target.

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As for the assault rifle it has the best range and its a hitscan weapon (both the SR and SPR are projectile-based). This makes it the most consistent, even if it is weaker.

I actually did an in-depth comparison of the three weapons if you want to check it out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPv1nv4UTNs

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LOL did someone just said the AR was the weakest auto? It has the longest range and it is huge and also has the most bullet magnetism plus hitscan. Anyway the other 2 autos are fine, perfectly balanced. But the AR is just…

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Already mastered the Storm Rifle - nothing wrong with it. I do agree the Suppressor could do with a slight buff though. Whilst using the Suppressor I sometimes get the drop on Storm Rifle and AR users yet they still manage to kill me first.

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Use them within the intended range and you’ll be fine. Both these guns are constantly killing on skyline and many people use the. The only reason the AR get’s more use is because it is more versatile, as it is longer range, but it is by no means better. Each weapon is at it’s strongest within it’s intended range.

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All the automatics can be lethal if used right. I always try to keep on as a backup and catch DMR/BR users in CQB. They almost never win.

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Every time I go against a Storm Rifle I get eaten alive. I am surprised that it isn’t used more often. Suppressor is a beast if you get just a bit closer to your opponent. You just need to know how to use these weapons.

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> LOL did someone just said the AR was the weakest auto? It has the longest range and it is huge and also has the most bullet magnetism plus hitscan. Anyway the other 2 autos are fine, perfectly balanced. But the AR is just…

It has the best range of the 3, but the per-shot damage and fire rate is the lowest.

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Automatic weapons are perfectly balanced as they are.

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Every weapon everyone sucks with needs a buff uh-huh. Duly noted.

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> Every weapon everyone sucks with needs a buff uh-huh. Duly noted.

That would be nice. Having weapons balanced around a DMR with a 1-second killtime would be great at balancing Sprint.

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> You guys must all have really low (invisible rank) because the people I’m playing with can consistently 5 shot with the DMR, this killing me at close range before I even knock out their shields.
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> If I switch to the DMR, I do fine but even I play close quarters with the automatics and get the jump on people, I get wrecked.
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> When I play against lesser skilled players (usually when playing against my lesser skilled friends) I own with any gun. But against others in my own skill, I am never killed by automatics and I can never kill with them either.
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> The weapon sandbox is balanced for casuals but it is DMR spam once you reach the high ranks. Nobody uses anything else or else they will lose.
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> I’m pretty sure 1500 out of my 2500 deaths are from the DMR. Most of the rest are from grenades, beat downs, power weapons and vehicles.

you cant five shot a suppressor close range. it kills by the time a dmr can shoot 4 times. also, im guessing you just run straight at someone trying to dmr you. big mistake. strafing is just as important with auto weapons. i snake towards people in an “S” like fashion so i close the gap and dodge shots. once my sheilds get popped i jump into the air ghandi hopping.