The Storm Covenant get every thing that was in Halo 4 including the Prometheans and Requiem but not the Didact or his ship.
Original Covenant get everything they had before the flood took over High Charity.
This is an all out war and no they can join forces.
Debate.
The Original Covenant, of course. They have more of everything, and with better quality.
Yes but remember the Prometheans and their weapons are the trump card. It’s obvious the Original Covenant could swash the Storm like a bug on it’s own but with The Prometheans and Requiem on their side that changes a things.
Spoilers.
Well, the storm covenant were only aided by the prometheans while they were under the Didact’s control. And even then, the covenant were merely serving the Didact, so it wasn’t a mutual relationship, so they probably wouldn’t be aided if they entered a war outside of Requiem. And we can expect that the storm covenant are severely weakened after the events of halo 4.
As for the forerunner weaponry, I am sure they could only acquire so little in the time they spent on requiem that it wouldn’t make much of a difference.
Original covenant would still win imo.
Original covenant. They’re not recovering from a war. They have an endless supply of weapons and ships. They have a more stable society. They also have more numerous, better trained troops. Having prometheans and infantry-level forerunner equipment, without the Didact or any knowledge of effectively exploiting this forerunner stuff isn’t as much an advantage as you might think.
Even with the Prometheans, I would give my vote to the original Covenant. The original had much more resources at their disposal, and overall a better class of warrior. Plus, the original Covenant had more bodies to throw at a problem than the Covenant remnant.
Original Covenant for me, that unity and brutality was something else, to even destroy most fortress worlds with that much ease and bounce back is something else.
Not only that I’ve never seen so much Covenant ships destroyed before until the Storm.
> Not only that I’ve never seen so much Covenant ships destroyed before until the Storm.
Though to be fair, the original Covenant didn’t have to go up against the Infinity or 300+ Spartan-IVs
Original Covenant without a doubt. The Covenant at full power could pour thousands if not millions of ships into the war effort. The Covenant remnant wouldn’t stand a chance, not even with the Prometheans.
Original Covenant. Why? They have more troops, and three more races-Drones, Brutes, and Engineers. Engineers provide shields and can repair vehicles, Drones attack in swarms, can fit in small spaces, and can fly around and harass enemies while others attack, and Brutes can absorb gunfire, carry devastating weapons(brute shot, gravity hammer etc.) and have a strong intimidation factor that may cause grunts and jackals to flee.
they have better leadership in the form of Prophets, who can also send in their Honor Guards and the Arbiter. Also, the white elite spec ops commander( don’t know his name) could direct battles and was a good warrior-certainly better than anyone the Storm has.
In terms of vehicles, Original had the Scarb, which could not only carry a small army and cover most terrain easily , but could cause major damage to land units and even air(see the entire New Mombasa level in Halon2), Spectre, which was basically a Covenant warthog, Revenant, a more mobile Wraith, and brute choppers(seen in ODST, which happened right after Covenant landed on Earth, and before High Charity fell) as well as others I may have forgotten.
Storm have Wraiths, Ghosts, Banshees( all of which the Original had), no Scarb, but do have the Lich-which, while being able to fly, seems to lack anti ground weapons(only things it uses are plasma turrets). Think about it, the only time it fires its main gun is to disable, not destroy as a Scarb would have, a Mammoth- and even then only seems to fry it’s gun, while the vehicle itself is fine. In contrast, the Scarbin Halo 2 destroys pelicans, part of a bridge( though not 100% on that) and takes out everything the UNSC throws at it, only being stopped by a sheer cliff. Even the ones in 3 and ODST were better than the Lich, as they had to be crippled before you could board them, had two main guns that it fired at ground and air units, and had the two plasma guns.
I saw someone mentioned the Promethans and Requiem advantage. Requiem is powerful, with a number of good static defenses, Iwill say that- but only if you are fighting on Requiem and can take advantage of those defenses, which even the Storm can’t fully, and only if you can protect the buttons that turn them on. Also, Requiem itself doesn’t seem to have anything that can defeat a ship, or even drop ships or drop pods, so Orignal would still win.
About the Promethans, they to be honest, suck against a determined, fully sentient enemy. This can be seen in the Campaign itself, where the Storm was able to push them back all the way to the Didact’s Cryptum, and were able to secure areas before that. If the Promeans can’t even keep the Storm back, ere is no way they could keep the full might of the Orginal Covenant at bay for long. They may have been great against Flood, but not so good against anything else.
TL;DR- Orginal Covenant has better leadership, commanders, three additional races, more vehicles, and more weapons. Storm have a slight advantage on Requiem, but it is insignificant at best. Promethans are also only good for holding off enemies, but can’t defeat them.
Of course the normal covies would win without much of a fuss. You ever notice how the storm covies never seem to remember to put their shields up on their ships? Pathetic excuse for elites.
And even though this is purely becuase of the way they were designed for halo 4, the storm elites are laughable compared to elites in any of the other games, especially legendary for Reach and Halo 2
Original Covenant. They at least have the extra numbers(Drones,Brutes,Engineers).That said; the Storm covenant have boarded the UNSC Infinity twice,and both times they almost destroyed it.So I guess that’s something…
I really don`t think the Prometheans make much of a difference either way. They were created and equipped to fight the Flood,but fall short against anything else.
If bullets can kill the Prometheans, glassing will do the trick.
OG Covies win.
The storm are only a small section of the Covenant remnant, so the original Covenant before the Schism obviously win. It would be awesome if 343 had another Covenant remnant group containing the Brutes, with their color scheme being grey and brown.
> > Not only that I’ve never seen so much Covenant ships destroyed before until the Storm.
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> Though to be fair, the original Covenant didn’t have to go up against the Infinity or 300+ Spartan-IVs
The thing is I know the UNSC has had it’s fair share of rare ship combat victories, but they just get destroyed and from what it looks like the rest of the Infinities escort fleet didn’t return until much time after the Infinity reached Requiem that many ships should have gave the Covenant a run for their money.
I think the original Covenant’s tactics would have been much more realistic.
> I think the original Covenant’s tactics would have been much more realistic.
All they did was rush with numbers.
> > I think the original Covenant’s tactics would have been much more realistic.
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> All they did was rush with numbers.
Rush with numbers, they had superior ships and were very tactical, they did not just rush with numbers. Remember the Slipspace jumps in the middle of UNSC battle formations? Sniper ships. Even on Harvest 1 ship was able to hold off a Battle Group until it eventually got destroyed.
The prometheans aren’t part of the Covenant remnants. They might have fought alongside them on Requiem but they aren’t one single unified force. The Didact was just using them to achieve his goals; wipe out humanity.
Pretty sure it was stated somewhere that the elites in the covenant remnant are all from distant colonies that didn’t even know the war was over. Most of the elites likely don’t even have any real combat experience aside from their training. The original covenant however had some incredible soldiers e.g. the Zealots that fought alongside Thel in The Cole Protocol, Thel himself, proper Special ops Elites, Brutes etc. They also had engineers and much better equipment. They aren’t “Rag tag” as the remnants were described.
Storm Covenant is working off scraps. They aren’t the same type of Sangheili either. They are ones who occasionally sent warriors out to fight for the Covenant instead of training them at birth to fight a war. Their ships are garbage with no Huragok.
The Original Covenant had stronger, more disciplined warriors. Larger group of races (Drones and Brutes included). Numbers will always win against power. Add that too better weapons, ships, communication network, and having Huragok…
Original Covenant win.
Overall, the original Covenant. The Storm Elites look, horrible, especially their armor not covering most of their arms. Come on. The only Storm related thing I like is the Storm Rifle and the new Beam Rifle
Also, the original covenant spoke English