Stop with the comparisons to CoD!

I’m not saying that people shouldn’t voice their negative opinions about the Halo 4 info that was released. I, however, really have an issue when the negative opinions consists of comparisons to Call of Duty, of all games.

Both games have VASTLY different styles of game-play:

Halo:

-Longer kill times thanks to shielding.

-Power weapons and equipment on the map.

-Drivable vehicles.

-Game types with specific starting weapons, a la Team Snipers/Rockets.

-Default starting weapons for everyone. (Now, before you go all BUT HALO 4 HAS LOADOUTS WHERE YOU CHOOSE YOUR WEAPONS AND ARMOR ABILITIES!!!, the weapons you are forcibly given aren’t all that powerful and game-changing to begin with. It’s not like you can choose a .50 calibur sniper rifle as a starting weapon in a regular team slayer match. That’s ridiculous. And all AAs have a counter for each other to balance each out.)

-Guns cannot ADS (Aim Down the Sights). You don’t need to since you have advanced targeting within your HUD anyway, unless it’s a weapon with optics, such as a sniper rifle.

-You cannot cook a grenade (holding onto it to shorten the fuse time once thrown). All fuse times for thrown grenades are the same.

-Melees mainly consist of using the butt of your weapon. It takes two or three melees to kill an opponent from the front and one in the back. Another way to melee, introduced in Reach, is to execute an Assassination from behind.

Call of Duty:

-Faster kill times than Halo, due to lack of shielding and very little damage resistance to bullets, making most kills only require 3 or 4 body shots.

-Kill-streak rewards that spawn in an AI controlled aerial vehicle to gain kills for you, or give the player the ability to detect anyone near their vicinity on their radar without having to initially see them.

-All weapons in the game are available at spawn, ranging from sub-machine guns to shotguns to even rocket launchers, with customizable gun attachments and paint-jobs.

-Guns have the ability to ADS, making it easier to land shots onto your targets than if you were to hip-fire.

-Players can cook a frag grenade to shorten the fuse once thrown. Heck, there’s even a perk where one can drop a live grenade once killed!

-Melees consists of a quick knife-swipe that will instant-kill someone (even if you swiped the enemy’s shoe).

So tell me how exactly Halo is turning into CoD? They’re obviously vastly different games with different mechanics.

Halo is Halo. It isn’t CoD, or any other game. It is it’s own unique game! Another thing for the CoD comparisons, Halo, as well as many other video games in all of history, have taken a feature from another game to increase it’s play factor and how fun it is.

I have faith in 343i, do you?

> Halo is Halo. It isn’t CoD, or any other game. It is it’s own unique game! Another thing for the CoD comparisons, Halo, as well as many other video games in all of history, have taken a feature from another game to increase it’s play factor and how fun it is.
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> I have faith in 343i, do you?

I sure do. =)

While I know Halo 4 won’t be anything like Call of Duty, it is very healthy to make comparisons to other games.

For instance, Halo 4 will always have sprint, like Call of Duty. It’s the easy thing to compare it to.

People shouldn’t go overboard by saying it will PLAY like Call of Duty because it won’t at all, but people also shouldn’t freak out when someone makes a simple comparison.

> While I know Halo 4 won’t be anything like Call of Duty, it is very healthy to make comparisons to other games.
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> For instance, Halo 4 will always have sprint, like Call of Duty. It’s the easy thing to compare it to.
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> <mark>People shouldn’t go overboard by saying it will PLAY like Call of Duty</mark> because it won’t at all, but people also shouldn’t freak out when someone makes a simple comparison.

This was the basis of my post. I see loads of threads here that Halo is “turning into CoD”, and it drives me off the wall.

The competitives are just whiners and are as bad as fox news looking for the minimal connection to prove there unvalid opinion.

Actually there are a ton of similarities between the two with the arousal of Halo 4 and this cannot be denied.

-60 FPS

-Customizable Loadouts

-Unlockable Weapons

-Join Session

-XP Progression based system

That is just with Halo 4’s newish features…let me go further into this though.

-First person shooter

-Melee System

-Maps

-Guns

-Health

-See what I’m doing here? I can compare it because THEY ARE SIMILAR. And they have the same features. Halo 4 is adding features that make it more LIKE CoD. Yes they are two different games, but you cannot say they cannot be compared.

Saying they cannot be compared is like saying you can’t compare Democrats to Republicans.

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Agreed

> Actually there are a ton of similarities between the two with the arousal of Halo 4 and this cannot be denied.
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> -60 FPS (No. Halo has 30 FPS)
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> -Customizable Loadouts (Yes, Halo 4 has loadouts, but they are not going to be the same as CoD’s. Many games before CoD existed have had loadouts. Look at older Battlefield titles and Counter Strike.)
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> -Unlockable Weapons (Again, not in the same sense of CoD. There, you can unlock weapons that could be considered power weapons. This argument should be merged with Customizable Loadouts)
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> -Join Session (We don’t know if it will be only limited to Social games or not [if they even have those, that is]. Also, almost all other shooters have a join session in progress system.)
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> -XP Progression based system (I agree with this one. However, we don’t know how the XP will work. Like Reach [most likely] or like Halo 3’s.)
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> That is just with Halo 4’s newish features…let me go further into this though.
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> -First person shooter
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> -Melee System
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> -Maps
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> -Guns
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> -Health
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> -See what I’m doing here? I can compare it because THEY ARE SIMILAR. And they have the same features. Halo 4 is adding features that make it more LIKE CoD. Yes they are two different games, but you cannot say they cannot be compared.
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> Saying they cannot be compared is like saying you can’t compare Democrats to Republicans.

The gameplay might not CoD, but didn’t Frankie say that Cod has some interesting ideas? Didn’t he play CoD? I think he got some ideas from CoD especially the obviously Spec Ops = Spartan Ops.

> Actually there are a ton of similarities between the two with the arousal of Halo 4 and this cannot be denied.
>
> -60 FPS
>
> -Customizable Loadouts
>
> -Unlockable Weapons
>
> -Join Session
>
> -XP Progression based system
>
> That is just with Halo 4’s newish features…let me go further into this though.
>
> -First person shooter
>
> -Melee System
>
> -Maps
>
> -Guns
>
> -Health
>
> -See what I’m doing here? I can compare it because THEY ARE SIMILAR. And they have the same features. Halo 4 is adding features that make it more LIKE CoD. Yes they are two different games, but you cannot say they cannot be compared.
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> Saying they cannot be compared is like saying you can’t compare Democrats to Republicans.

Yep… just like CoD… facepalm. You realize there are games before CoD that have all of those features?

> > Actually there are a ton of similarities between the two with the arousal of Halo 4 and this cannot be denied.
> >
> > -60 FPS
> >
> > -Customizable Loadouts
> >
> > -Unlockable Weapons
> >
> > -Join Session
> >
> > -XP Progression based system
> >
> > That is just with Halo 4’s newish features…let me go further into this though.
> >
> > -First person shooter
> >
> > -Melee System
> >
> > -Maps
> >
> > -Guns
> >
> > -Health
> >
> > -See what I’m doing here? I can compare it because THEY ARE SIMILAR. And they have the same features. Halo 4 is adding features that make it more LIKE CoD. Yes they are two different games, but you cannot say they cannot be compared.
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> > Saying they cannot be compared is like saying you can’t compare Democrats to Republicans.
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> Yep… just like CoD… facepalm. You realize there are games before CoD that have all of those features?

Wow my post flew over your head didn’t it!

> The gameplay might not CoD, but didn’t Frankie say that Cod has some interesting ideas? Didn’t he play CoD? I think he got some ideas from CoD especially the obviously Spec Ops = Spartan Ops.

Its 343 industries, not 343 Frankie.
He doesnt think of everything.

> > > Actually there are a ton of similarities between the two with the arousal of Halo 4 and this cannot be denied.
> > >
> > > -60 FPS
> > >
> > > -Customizable Loadouts
> > >
> > > -Unlockable Weapons
> > >
> > > -Join Session
> > >
> > > -XP Progression based system
> > >
> > > That is just with Halo 4’s newish features…let me go further into this though.
> > >
> > > -First person shooter
> > >
> > > -Melee System
> > >
> > > -Maps
> > >
> > > -Guns
> > >
> > > -Health
> > >
> > > -See what I’m doing here? I can compare it because THEY ARE SIMILAR. And they have the same features. Halo 4 is adding features that make it more LIKE CoD. Yes they are two different games, but you cannot say they cannot be compared.
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> > > Saying they cannot be compared is like saying you can’t compare Democrats to Republicans.
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> > Yep… just like CoD… facepalm. You realize there are games before CoD that have all of those features?
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> Wow my post flew over your head didn’t it!

You said they are similar. Which is incredibly inaccuracte.

> Actually there are a ton of similarities between the two with the arousal of Halo 4 and this cannot be denied.
>
> -60 FPS
>
> -Customizable Loadouts
>
> -Unlockable Weapons
>
> -Join Session
>
> -XP Progression based system
>
> That is just with Halo 4’s newish features…let me go further into this though.
>
> -First person shooter
>
> -Melee System
>
> -Maps
>
> -Guns
>
> -Health
>
> -See what I’m doing here? I can compare it because THEY ARE SIMILAR. And they have the same features. Halo 4 is adding features that make it more LIKE CoD. Yes they are two different games, but you cannot say they cannot be compared.
>
> Saying they cannot be compared is like saying you can’t compare Democrats to Republicans.

Can you read? The 60FPS post was a fake.

> > Actually there are a ton of similarities between the two with the arousal of Halo 4 and this cannot be denied.
> >
> > -60 FPS
> >
> > -Customizable Loadouts
> >
> > -Unlockable Weapons
> >
> > -Join Session
> >
> > -XP Progression based system
> >
> > That is just with Halo 4’s newish features…let me go further into this though.
> >
> > -First person shooter
> >
> > -Melee System
> >
> > -Maps
> >
> > -Guns
> >
> > -Health
> >
> > -See what I’m doing here? I can compare it because THEY ARE SIMILAR. And they have the same features. Halo 4 is adding features that make it more LIKE CoD. Yes they are two different games, but you cannot say they cannot be compared.
> >
> > Saying they cannot be compared is like saying you can’t compare Democrats to Republicans.
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> Can you read? The 60FPS post was a fake.

so although it is fake it might actually be true. we will have to wait and see if bs angel or frankie comfrims this

It will probably never stop but I agree

> The gameplay might not CoD, but didn’t Frankie say that Cod has some interesting ideas? Didn’t he play CoD? I think he got some ideas from CoD especially the obviously Spec Ops = Spartan Ops.

FACEPALM!!!

Fine since you asked mr random forum user.

Halo 4 is like BF 3.

:slight_smile:

I have faith in 343i, do you?
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Oh hell yes I do! (no sarcasm intended) I love the changes and believe they make Halo 4 as best as they can :slight_smile: