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Good sportsmanship should be reflected in the behavior of players after a multiplier game has ended. On online multiplier games, please consider preventing shooting and other violent game actions after the game is won or lost. This is more consistent with what is expected in sporting events and is consistent with good sportsmanship. We need our games to enforce this thinking so kids and adults don’t get too used to late hits after the whistle or game horn is sounded. Also it gives the winning team a chance to celebrate while the losing team is prevented from engaging in battle behavior to undermine that victory.
After game is ended or time is expired.
Winning Team
Shooting -> guns can fire directly in the air, such as in celebration.
Grenade throwing -> Grenades are thrown directly up and will explode without causing damage to other players.
Melee attack -> High five? or fist pump in the air.
Vehicles Driving -> allowed to continue in celebration.
Vehicle shooting -> shooting is stopped.
Losing team
Shooting -> guns are pointed to the ground and unable to fire.
Grenade Thrown -> Grenade is dropped and does not explode.
Melee attack -> arms are extended out with open palms as if to gesture defeat.
Vehicles -> player is forced to exit vehicles or they must stop in place.
Crouching -> Sitting as if to accept defeat and relaxing for next game.
Winning would mean something to have both teams change there action behaviors. A winning team member could not be harmed by a losing member 1 second after the game is won. Also the winning team members could not punish a losing team member beyond celebration behaviors. These changes would make both winning and losing feel more significant compared to todays Halo multiplier game behaviors.
Unfortunately , good sportsmanship has never been a major value of this community , at least since Halo 3 any way. In Halo 2 it was a regular occurence to hear "good game"or some such remark , but since Halo 3 the community has been on a downward spiral…but what can you expect when the developers encourage T-bagging and other non-sportsman like behavior? (Looking at Bungie specifically , I don’t know what 343s stance on the subject is).
All of this being said , I don’t see how these changes would make winning and losing feel any more significant than it does now. As a matter of fact , I know several players that will get a kill after time expires shouting “that counts”. Much like sports in general , if you don’t like a team running the score up on you , don’t let them , if you can stop it.
I will say , trying to enforce good sportsmanship , or morality on a community of this size is only going to end with a very loud back lash.
Also , any one who equates getting in a few extra shots after time expires in a video game ; with no “Rules” for after time infractions ; with hitting a receiver out of bounds , or continuing to fight after the bell sounds , needs to have their head examined.
Honestly, it’s not a big deal and equating it to a real life sport is asinine. Halo is fun competition and any extra curriculars that occur in the game or after is just part of the game. I can’t help but think you’re a parent of a child playing this game, and wish you would have played years ago when live was just beginning. People learned how to handle trash talk and back it up in game without getting their feelings hurt (esp since almost everyone used a mic in lobbies). In this respect it is like sport. Teabagging and melee’ing bodies after someone is outplayed is just expected and is part of the heat of the battle. Do you just want to pacify the experience?
I hate the fact that video games are considered a sport. It isn’t about sportsmanship. It isn’t about if Red or Blue had a competitive edge. It isn’t about if I was team MVP or have a positive K/D. It isn’t about the fact that red guy punched my body after I died or emoted over me after the kill! I play video games to have fun, and I hope that the other players in my match do too. I play games like I would watch a movie. I play them like I would play pool, card games and party games with my friends (and there will be banter). So can we please just try to enjoy the game instead of nitpicking what it is about people we do not like.
I think it’s just Halo tradition to shoot and kill anyone you see in after the “game over” is announced, whether you win or lose. Also, post game lobbies are always going to be filled with trash talk, so designing a game that basically forces players to display good sportsmanship would just be poor design and take away yet another aspect people expect to be in Halo.
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> I think it’s just Halo tradition to shoot and kill anyone you see in after the “game over” is announced, whether you win or lose. Also, post game lobbies are always going to be filled with trash talk, so designing a game that basically forces players to display good sportsmanship would just be poor design and take away yet another aspect people expect to be in Halo.
Exactly, it almost wouldn’t be Halo if you removed that.
I say keep it how it is. Though if it did change, I don’t think they should take away the ability to fire weapons, drive vehicles, etc. That just wouldn’t be fun.
I don’t think the logic of the end of a game of Team Slayer vs the end of say a real world children’s soccer game is fully there.
I wouldn’t take the end of a match in a video game this seriously, and I don’t find shooting a player to be that disrespectful. The whole match is about shooting each other, after the “whistle is sounded” I don’t think it’s any more disrespectful than it was 10 seconds prior when we were trying to get points.
Sportsmanship is determined by those who are GIVEN the option to be unsportsmanlike, yet choose to be better than that. Sportsmanship is NOT determined by forcing someone to look as if they might be sportsmanlike. Restrictions are not the key answer here.
Shooting and doing whatever after a game is finished has been a part of Halo’s charm. It can give some funny and memorable moments. And I don’t think restricting everyone like little children is the way to go since there are some older players too. Just let it be what it is.
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