It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
> It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
Anyone can get good scores when the game is filled with crutches. Ranking up by winning games is a whole different matter.
You stop it!!!
> > It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
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> Anyone can get good scores when the game is filled with crutches. Ranking up by winning games is a whole different matter.
But what if your good, but your entire team sucks. That doesn’t show your skill, it your team’s overall skill.
On the otherhand you could suck but get teamed up with 3 really good players, you win, and earn exp for failing
> > > It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
> >
> > Anyone can get good scores when the game is filled with crutches. Ranking up by winning games is a whole different matter.
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> But what if your good, but your entire team sucks. That doesn’t show your skill, it your team’s overall skill.
> On the otherhand you could suck but get teamed up with 3 really good players, you win, and earn exp for failing
Win as a team and lose as a team. If you carry your team and lose, it’s your fault for not searching with better people. If you win and do bad, you had to have done something right.
Ranks that are based on individual performance lead to selfish, frustrating gameplay. Early Arena was criticized for this sort of thing.
> > > > It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
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> > > Anyone can get good scores when the game is filled with crutches. Ranking up by winning games is a whole different matter.
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> > But what if your good, but your entire team sucks. That doesn’t show your skill, it your team’s overall skill.
> > On the otherhand you could suck but get teamed up with 3 really good players, you win, and earn exp for failing
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> Win as a team and lose as a team. If you carry your team and lose, it’s your fault for not searching with better people. If you win and do bad, you had to have done something right.
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> Ranks that are based on individual performance lead to selfish, frustrating gameplay. Early Arena was criticized for this sort of thing.
What if you dont search with a team, like most people
whenever me and friends play reach we win most matches 50-30 and Its boring as -Yoink- to play I don’t want to play people who hardly understand the game and I’m sure the feeling is mutual.
> > > > > It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone can get good scores when the game is filled with crutches. Ranking up by winning games is a whole different matter.
> > >
> > > But what if your good, but your entire team sucks. That doesn’t show your skill, it your team’s overall skill.
> > > On the otherhand you could suck but get teamed up with 3 really good players, you win, and earn exp for failing
> >
> > Win as a team and lose as a team. If you carry your team and lose, it’s your fault for not searching with better people. If you win and do bad, you had to have done something right.
> >
> > Ranks that are based on individual performance lead to selfish, frustrating gameplay. Early Arena was criticized for this sort of thing.
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> What if you dont search with a team, like most people
Then you play FFA or go into a team playlist without expecting to win a lot, especially in a game like Reach where your average player is absolutely awful.
I always searched alone when I played. If I lost, I couldn’t blame my teammates any more than I could blame my search habits.
This is why PROPER trueskill is so essential to Halo matchmaking. It’s much better for both randoms and teams.
> This is why PROPER <mark>trueskill is so essential to Halo matchmaking</mark>. It’s much better for both randoms and teams.
i agree with this. a working rank system is nesacary. but it should also be invisible, so people dont have to deal with
“your not a 50, so your opinion doesnt matter”
“im a 50 and your not, so im a different species then you, and i have to trash talk you as much as possible”
rank is a good idea, but visible rank is not.
If I wanted people to stop with the ranking system stuff, I wouldn’t make a thread that is going to spiral into the same endless arguments.
> It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
I disagree completely dude the game will get boring and all the competitive gamers and good gamers will get bored and have nothing to play for just look at halo reach.
Halo 4 needs a visible ranking system that is based on skill and not based on how long you play the game for such as COD…
A Visible rank gives players of all kinds to strive for something and it gives them incentive to play the game more.
> > It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
>
> Anyone can get good scores when the game is filled with crutches. Ranking up by winning games is a whole different matter.
Agreed man
Oh right, I forgot we weren’t supposed to debate about things we want in the game. Right, sorry. We’ll get back to our discussions about knitting then.
In seriousness, I kind of agree, but you can’t just tell people to stop. You can have an intelligent argument (depending on who you argue with), but telling people to stop isn’t going to work, and also is counter-productive to the spirit of the forum.
> > > > It would be nice to have a skill based or visable ranking system. But if your so good, just prove it by playing the game and getting good scores. Thats a much better way of showing player skill than rank.
> > >
> > > Anyone can get good scores when the game is filled with crutches. Ranking up by winning games is a whole different matter.
> >
> > But what if your good, but your entire team sucks. That doesn’t show your skill, it your team’s overall skill.
> > On the otherhand you could suck but get teamed up with 3 really good players, you win, and earn exp for failing
>
> Win as a team and lose as a team. If you carry your team and lose, it’s your fault for not searching with better people. If you win and do bad, you had to have done something right.
>
> Ranks that are based on individual performance lead to selfish, frustrating gameplay. Early Arena was criticized for this sort of thing.
Yea man the arena system in halo reach was garbage… it made everyone play selfish to get a better rating.
Halo 4 needs a new visible revamped 1-50 system 
> > This is why PROPER <mark>trueskill is so essential to Halo matchmaking</mark>. It’s much better for both randoms and teams.
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> i agree with this. a working rank system is nesacary. but it should also be invisible, so people dont have to deal with
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> “your not a 50, so your opinion doesnt matter”
> “im a 50 and your not, so im a different species then you, and i have to trash talk you as much as possible”
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> rank is a good idea, but visible rank is not.
visible rank is a great idea and who cares if people say that. People will talk smack any where you go even in games that don’t show visible rank so that comment shows you cant handle a lil trash talk… lol
Arena is actually pretty good now that jetpack is gone.
Facepalm
10 Years ago we didn’t need ranks in our games.
Now look what these dam virtuel symbols and numbers do to us! WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE?!
Not to go off topic but wouldn’t most matchmaking ideas be better discussed in the matchmaking forum? I mean wouldn’t they give you the answers you are looking for?
(Towards People that discuss it here)
> Facepalm
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> 10 Years ago we didn’t need ranks in our games.
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> Now look what these dam virtuel symbols and numbers do to us! WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE?!
10 years ago, we didn’t have online multiplayer.
Counter strike
Half life
Halo 1 PC
Starship troopers
Uhhm let me see…
YES, we had MP back then.