Starting a mission on Halo 4 matchmaking

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I am sick and tired of seeing everyone hating on 343.

They did a pretty dang good job guys. Sure there a few things that can be touched up on, but that’s no need to call them idiots and morons (which i have legitimately seen on so many threads) just because of small issues like a skill rank system, armor pieces, and some lag which is probably your connection. A lot of the activity on these parts of the forum just seem to be everyone being disrespectful, everyone acting like those disrespectful kids on My Sweet 16th Birthday when their parents get them a black mercedes and they wanted it in white, so they call them every swear word in the book. Guys, give 343 a break, for their 1st game, they did a damn good job!

-Our forging could be like far cry 3’s… where you can’t even put weapons and vehicles if you want to play with your friends!

-the menu’s can be very complicated and hard to use!

-saving maps could have been complicated!

You guys are taking a lot of this for granted. So i’m starting a little mission of my own on Halo 4 matchmaking. I’m going to get a lot of the people that are ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME, AND ENJOYING IT, on here. These forums. I’m going to convince as many people that enjoy the game for the next couple of months, to come join the conversations on these recent attacking threads. Just to prove that there are so many people actually enjoying halo 4, right now.

When i come on halo waypoint, all i see is negativity. Try it for yourself, go to the halo 4 section, and see what the titles are for the first 5 threads are called. I can almost guarantee that there will be negative ones. It’s so sad to see all these. Sometimes i don’t even bother coming on here anymore, and i used to come check it out every day. Now when I do, all i want to do is defend 343, but there are so many haters and trollers that i can’t even try to defend 343 without being attacked!

When I jump on halo 4 online… that all changes. I have fun, I talk to new people, and i’ve never once bumped into someone who hates the game. Everyone in the lobby talks about what they like, how much they play, how much fun they’re having. It’s really nice, just to enjoy halo 4 without all this negativity. Halo 4 matchmaking are where most of the real halo lovers are, not on here trying to take control just because a few things aren’t going THEIR way.

If you want to join me in getting more halo 4 lovers on here, please do so. I’ve had enough of this negativity. I’m sure many others have as well. Just pass the word on when you get into matchmaking, just say “hey man, get on the waypoint forums, there’s not enough halo lovers on there!”

Thanks guys!

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I agree that the aggressive, disrespectful attitudes present in this forum are annoying.

343 won’t want to implement fixes if people just scream directions at them with no backing. You need to explain the problems in a concise, polite way, and explain the reasoning behind them.

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> I agree that the aggressive, disrespectful attitudes present in this forum are annoying.
>
> 343 won’t want to implement fixes if people just scream directions at them with no backing. You need to explain the problems in a concise, polite way, and explain the reasoning behind them.

Help me then brother, in this great journey! No I’m kidding, but seriously spread the positive word on matchmaking man, we need more people on here who actually ENJOY the game.

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Sorry I didn’t read your post. But I don’t need to to know that I agree with what you’re saying.

People are way too melodramatic here.

Just like when Halo 2 came out.

And Halo 3.

And Halo Reach.

Now we have people praising reach, imagine when 5 comes out, everyone is going to be talking about how amazing 4 was.

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Man thank you…someone not hating on halo 4 and 343.
Even if I don’t like everything about it, I can appreciate the hard work and thought out into making such a detailed game.
Only reason people who like halo 4 aren’t on here is cause they’re playing it while the trolls commiserate with all their troll buddies.
And yes, some of the criticisms are constructive…

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Yes, I think 343 put a great deal of effort into halo 4. Even if they released the game a bit early and could have spent more time fixing it up, Halo 4 is still a great game. If anyone really wants a Halo 3 remake, the solution is simple, go play Halo 3.

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> Sorry I didn’t read your post. But I don’t need to to know that I agree with what you’re saying.
>
> People are way too melodramatic here.
>
> Just like when Halo 2 came out.
>
> And Halo 3.
>
> And Halo Reach.
>
> Now we have people praising reach, imagine when 5 comes out, everyone is going to be talking about how amazing 4 was.

Exactly. You couldn’t have said it more perfectly.
Ugh. I never felt so embarrassed to say I’m part of this halo “community”. I really hope 343 does not stop what they are doing. I really do. I love where they are taking the franchise, honestly it has never been better before. It has so many new features, and it still feels exactly like halo. You can jump so freely, you can’t spawn with snipers and such ridiculous weapons.

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> Man thank you…someone not hating on halo 4 and 343.
> Even if I don’t like everything about it, I can appreciate the hard work and thought out into making such a detailed game.
> Only reason people who like halo 4 aren’t on here is cause they’re playing it while the trolls commiserate with all their troll buddies.
> And yes, some of the criticisms are constructive…

I now some are, and I love seeing them.

But I hate when you put such a positive thread on here, meaning no harm, and then 10 seconds after, trolls just swarm your thread. It’s very sickening.

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They didn’t do “a pretty dang good job”. The only reason people feel this game plays like Halo is slow kill times.

  • The change to the weapon spawn system is ATROCIOUS. It is the single worst thing ever done to Halo. We had to wait for forgers to make maps with weapons that spawn in consistent locations.

  • You can spawn with a shotgun secondary still

  • You can still spawn with Camo and Jet Pack

  • A terrible combination of absurdly high aim assist and a slow strafe

  • Stopping power STILL not fixing sprint’s problems

  • Spawning with stickies (creating the issue of sticky grenade martyrdom)

  • Inability to drop the flag, pretty much ruining any strategy to the gametype other than “beeline to your base”.

  • Instant respawn creating chaos and eliminating the punishment of death

-Removal of many essential custom options for custom gametypes.

I could go on and on if I wanted to. This game has issues that cannot be fixed with a TU, since the majority of the problems stem from 343’s vision of new Halo. The only thing that Halo 4 has done better than Reach is more consistent weapons, that’s it. Everything else has been a step in the wrong direction.

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> > Sorry I didn’t read your post. But I don’t need to to know that I agree with what you’re saying.
> >
> > People are way too melodramatic here.
> >
> > Just like when Halo 2 came out.
> >
> > And Halo 3.
> >
> > And Halo Reach.
> >
> > Now we have people praising reach, imagine when 5 comes out, everyone is going to be talking about how amazing 4 was.
>
> Exactly. You couldn’t have said it more perfectly.
> Ugh. I never felt so embarrassed to say I’m part of this halo “community”. I really hope 343 does not stop what they are doing. I really do. I love where they are taking the franchise, honestly it has never been better before. It has so many new features, and it still feels exactly like halo. You can jump so freely, you can’t spawn with snipers and such ridiculous weapons.

Tbh, the only places that I see this much hate for the game are here, THC, and Bnet. Everywhere else the general opinion of the game is pretty postive. Look at IGN, on every Halo article they make, the top comment is supporting the game with hundred of upvotes, while the haters/complainers are the minority.

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> Tbh, the only places that I see this much hate for the game are here, THC, and Bnet. Everywhere else the general opinion of the game is pretty postive. Look at IGN, on every Halo article they make, the top comment is supporting the game with hundred of upvotes, while the haters/complainers are the minority.

Do you know why the media sites and game reviewers praise Halo 4? Micro$$$$$$$$$$$$$$oft

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> > Tbh, the only places that I see this much hate for the game are here, THC, and Bnet. Everywhere else the general opinion of the game is pretty postive. Look at IGN, on every Halo article they make, the top comment is supporting the game with hundred of upvotes, while the haters/complainers are the minority.
>
> Do you know why the media sites and game reviewers praise Halo 4? Micro$$$$$$$$$$$$$$oft

Oh yeah, I’m sure Microsoft pays them money just to say things.

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> - A terrible combination of absurdly high aim assist and a slow strafe

I assume you are talking about the DMR??
If you are, you are right, it needs fixing.

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> They didn’t do “a pretty dang good job”. The only reason people feel this game plays like Halo is slow kill times.
>
> - The change to the weapon spawn system is ATROCIOUS. It is the single worst thing ever done to Halo. We had to wait for forgers to make maps with weapons that spawn in consistent locations.
>
> - You can spawn with a shotgun secondary still
>
> - You can still spawn with Camo and Jet Pack
>
> - A terrible combination of absurdly high aim assist and a slow strafe
>
> - Stopping power STILL not fixing sprint’s problems
>
> - Spawning with stickies (creating the issue of sticky grenade martyrdom)
>
> - Inability to drop the flag, pretty much ruining any strategy to the gametype other than “beeline to your base”.
>
> - Instant respawn creating chaos and eliminating the punishment of death
>
> -Removal of many essential custom options for custom gametypes.
>
>
> I could go on and on if I wanted to. This game has issues that cannot be fixed with a TU, since the majority of the problems stem from 343’s vision of new Halo. The only thing that Halo 4 has done better than Reach is more consistent weapons, that’s it. Everything else has been a step in the wrong direction.

Oh c’mon man really?

  • the weapon spawning is good. It’s better not to have people weapon càmping, god I hated that.
  • the boltshot sucks, but it had a few negative parts to it like tis charge, and it’s cool down.
  • and why is the camo and jet pack that big of a problem again? The jet pack has been massively reduced in power. It’s more like a jump pack more then a jet pack, which is loads better then reaches.
  • aim assist isn’t all that. It seems the same just like in every halo. It doesn’t seem to make anybody better. And slow strafe? Seriously?
  • stopping power not stopping sprinting? Um I just shot someone earlier, and it slowed them down drastically.
  • stickies got a nerf too. They don’t even do much damage like they used to. Which is good. Now that you can spawn with them.
  • you ever play halo 3 where people would drop the flag, pick it up, and do it over a million times to have fun? Yeah.
    And also, carrying the flag with magnum is awesome.
  • Instant respawning in slayer, and normal spawns on objective based games. It seems good to me.
  • we are all aware of custom game options, but it’s livable. I hold weekly custom game nights every Friday and Saturday on halo 4, very popular and successful every time. Want to join in?
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> > - A terrible combination of absurdly high aim assist and a slow strafe
>
> I assume you are talking about the DMR??
> If you are, you are right, it needs fixing.

All weapons in general. The DMR just has the longest range of aim assist, but all the precision weapons have the same amount. It’s near Halo 2 levels of stupidity, but there isn’t a responsive strafe to counteract it.

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> Oh c’mon man really?
> - the weapon spawning is good. It’s better not to have people weapon càmping, god I hated that.

Please, explain this power weapon camping.

> - the boltshot sucks, but it had a few negative parts to it like tis charge, and it’s cool down.

It just shouldn’t be a loadout weapon. It should be placed on the map

> - and why is the camo and jet pack that big of a problem again? The jet pack has been massively reduced in power. It’s more like a jump pack more then a jet pack, which is loads better then reaches.

Camo is an ability that rewards staying still. It is a crutch for bad players who need the jump to play well. You can sit invisibly off in the distance and pick off your opponents before they see you. It used to be considered so powerful, it was on the map for players to fight for control over. Now, it’s gifted to you off spawn.

Jet Pack, no matter what state it is in, is a map control button. It gives you too much reward for too little risk. Perfect example: Simplex. It’s supposed to be risky to get overshield, and your team will need to have control of Purple and Gold tower to do so safely. Now, you can just jetpack up with no issue at all.

> - aim assist isn’t all that. It seems the same just like in every halo. It doesn’t seem to make anybody better.

Maybe you should look into what you are talking about before you talk about it. 343 created the false sense of increased killtimes by decreasing the average killtime since the aim assist is so high in this game.

> And slow strafe? Seriously?

Yes. Seriously. Look at how fast and responsive HCE and H2 were. H3-H4 are atrocious. At least the aiming skill gap was higher in H3 and Reach and didn’t create nearly as many issues as H4.

> - stopping power not stopping sprinting? Um I just shot someone earlier, and it slowed them down drastically.

The thousands of times I have cheated death by abusing sprint beg to differ.

> - stickies got a nerf too. They don’t even do much damage like they used to. Which is good. Now that you can spawn with them.

It is still a spawning item which allows you to instantly kill another player. No bueno in a game with slow kill times.

> - you ever play halo 3 where people would drop the flag, pick it up, and do it over a million times to have fun? Yeah.
> And also, carrying the flag with magnum is awesome.

Yes, flagnum is awesome. You do realize there was a purpose behind flag juggling in H3, right? It sped you up. It wasn’t just “for fun”. This issue would not be present in H4, however, since you already run at 100% speed. Again, learn what you are talking about.

> - Instant respawning in slayer, and normal spawns on objective based games. It seems good to me.

Seems chaotic to me. I’ve cleaned up countless 1-shot players after respawning. It’s utterly ridiculous. Also, only 3 gametypes offer no insta-spawn: Dominion, Extraction, and CTF. CTF is a joke in this game, Dominion is a BTB-esk variant, not my forte, and Extraction is fabulous.

> - we are all aware of custom game options, but it’s livable. I hold weekly custom game nights every Friday and Saturday on halo 4, very popular and successful every time. Want to join in?

Perhaps, although when I am playing Halo 4, it is generally with friends irl.

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> > Oh c’mon man really?
> > - the weapon spawning is good. It’s better not to have people weapon càmping, god I hated that.
>
> Please, explain this power weapon camping.
>
>
> > - the boltshot sucks, but it had a few negative parts to it like tis charge, and it’s cool down.
>
> It just shouldn’t be a loadout weapon. It should be placed on the map
>
>
> > - and why is the camo and jet pack that big of a problem again? The jet pack has been massively reduced in power. It’s more like a jump pack more then a jet pack, which is loads better then reaches.
>
> Camo is an ability that rewards staying still. It is a crutch for bad players who need the jump to play well. You can sit invisibly off in the distance and pick off your opponents before they see you. It used to be considered so powerful, it was on the map for players to fight for control over. Now, it’s gifted to you off spawn.
>
> Jet Pack, no matter what state it is in, is a map control button. It gives you too much reward for too little risk. Perfect example: Simplex. It’s supposed to be risky to get overshield, and your team will need to have control of Purple and Gold tower to do so safely. Now, you can just jetpack up with no issue at all.
>
>
> > - aim assist isn’t all that. It seems the same just like in every halo. It doesn’t seem to make anybody better.
>
> Maybe you should look into what you are talking about before you talk about it. 343 created the false sense of increased killtimes by decreasing the average killtime since the aim assist is so high in this game.
>
> > And slow strafe? Seriously?
>
> Yes. Seriously. Look at how fast and responsive HCE and H2 were. H3-H4 are atrocious. At least the aiming skill gap was higher in H3 and Reach and didn’t create nearly as many issues as H4.
>
>
> > - stopping power not stopping sprinting? Um I just shot someone earlier, and it slowed them down drastically.
>
> The thousands of times I have cheated death by abusing sprint beg to differ.
>
>
> > - stickies got a nerf too. They don’t even do much damage like they used to. Which is good. Now that you can spawn with them.
>
> It is still a spawning item which allows you to instantly kill another player. No bueno in a game with slow kill times.
>
>
> > - you ever play halo 3 where people would drop the flag, pick it up, and do it over a million times to have fun? Yeah.
> > And also, carrying the flag with magnum is awesome.
>
> Yes, flagnum is awesome. You do realize there was a purpose behind flag juggling in H3, right? It sped you up. It wasn’t just “for fun”. This issue would not be present in H4, however, since you already run at 100% speed. Again, learn what you are talking about.
>
>
> > - Instant respawning in slayer, and normal spawns on objective based games. It seems good to me.
>
> Seems chaotic to me. I’ve cleaned up countless 1-shot players after respawning. It’s utterly ridiculous. Also, only 3 gametypes offer no insta-spawn: Dominion, Extraction, and CTF. CTF is a joke in this game, Dominion is a BTB-esk variant, not my forte, and Extraction is fabulous.
>
>
> > - we are all aware of custom game options, but it’s livable. I hold weekly custom game nights every Friday and Saturday on halo 4, very popular and successful every time. Want to join in?
>
> Perhaps, although when I am playing Halo 4, it is generally with friends irl.

-Weapon spawn camping, where players would sit at the spawn of a power weapon and wait.

-The camo sucks, it has more negative aspects then positive. A radar “jammer” that gives you away, you can only use it effectively at slow speeds or being completely still. When people use it gives them away. You’re being a little dramatic over it. And the jetpack also is nerfed like crazy, it’s still not as good as it seems to you. The reach one was too powerful, but the one in halo 4 really calmed down, which i like.

-you started the aim assist whining, not me. And the aim assist is all good, for all weapons. a precision weapon is EXPECTED to have more precision at a distance. so what? The DMR IS a PRECISION weapon, right?

-the strafing… what else are you going to complain about? I play this game every day, and i never once have thought “OH MY GOD, THE STRAFING IS TERRIBLE!!!”

-The sprint is useful to get away, i use it also to get away when being overwhelmed in situation. What do you think real Spartans would do, just stand there and get shot at? Pick a good time to attack your targets instead of attacking them frantically when you know they will get away. There’s always a time to strike, and sometimes you just have to let them go because you will give yourself away or allow them a chance to get away.

-Again, the stickies aren’t all that. They are useful to use against vehicles, though i sometimes wish people only could spawn with one. Their blast radius is pretty lame compared to reaches. Learn to strafe around them, people usually throw 2 in a weak effort to get you last second.

  • I played halo 3 so many times where people would do that on purpose just for fun. I have never once ran into a group of people who drop the flag and pick it back up a million times to run faster. And you’re just going to have to deal with the flag issues. It’s more strategic, and solves issues like that. Do you really think game developers want people to use tactics like that? Once you have the flag, it is YOUR responsibility. Don’t pick it up if you can’t handle that.

  • The instant respawns are awesome. Sorry to tell you, but it’s something you’re going to have to deal with in most games. We live in a world where nothing is fast enough for us. I like that instant respawns are in slayer, and in objective based games its a normal respawn. Why should you be penalized for dying in slayer game anyway? I think it’s genius what 343 is doing.

-I’m kidding about inviting to my custom games. You probably wouldn’t have fun considering you don’t seem to like this game.

Please, don’t continue attacking this thread. It’s for people to help me get more people on the forums who actually enjoy this game.

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Im down, i sweat that i play alot better when theres a group of gamers all having a good time. Also makes ingame fails that much better

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I don’t get the thing you said about far cry 3?
the map editor in that is way better then forge. its harder to use but a lot better.

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I’m gonna make this short…I dislike 343i because of various reasons with regards to Halo 4. Even dating back to last March, when beloved Bungie gave up the franchise.

That ladies and gentlemen, is the lack of support with regards to War Games, having glitches/lags, the recent modders, cheating their way through, even when the tournament was going on, and the adding/removal of playlist, Team Snipers. SpOps the same thing, too many glitches and lags.

However, I am enjoying the game, b/c of SpOps and i must say, keep those episodes rollin’ 343i, its getting very interesting. Its much more interesting than campaign, IMO. Other than that, i’m enjoying it, its just the support, im truly worried about.