Start Talking About Plans for MCC once BC launches

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343 industries,
Once Backward Compatibility has launched, you’re going to do the overwhelmingly obvious, correct thing, right? Remove Halo 3 and Halo 4’s MP, then dedicate the vacant space to HCE/H2/H2A?

See, I have no clue if you will, A) bc you rarely choose more favorable options available to you (especially when they’re obvious to all) & B)You never talk about anything of substance until you need me to hand you or your favorite retail partner another $65.

So, I’m going to do the overwhelmingly obvious, stupid thing here and request that you respond with an answer of substance and value…AND give you the benefit of the doubt and pretend it’s possible that you will actually offer myself and others the information I’m requesting.

Do not bother responding if it will only result in you patronizing all of us with your standard “We’ll have details soon” crap. You have details right this very second, and it’d behoove you to divulge that which applies to what I’m asking you here…here and now…today.

The last time you considered what would behoove you, was Santa Claus season. Christmas in July passed some time ago, and you’re still not behooving yourselves like you promised. So, how about you consider what would behoove all of us…the people who made it possible for you to have these jobs that inherently ask you to handle a number of customer service-related duties that you, for the most, choose to ignore entirely.

What are your plans for MCC Multiplayer once the original, full-blown versions of Halo 3 and Halo 4 become available, thanks to the backward compatibility emulation system that you were intimately aware of when you chose to sell us those games all over again with the MCC instead of giving us the awesome, complete H2 Remaster we’d hoped for for years. Start talking. Talk is cheap (yours being worthless more often than not), but when it takes a year to get a game properly fixed, the disparity between values of talk and actually doing something’s rather negligible. Start talking

(note: this is not a chance for you to sell something. Obliging to the request here will demand that you do something, simply because it is the right thing to do, not because it is likely to result in profit).

Regards,

One of your PAYING Customers

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I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

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> I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).

Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.

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> > I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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> We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.

Yeah. It’s not like they can’t change it. I think they’re just too conservative to give it a shot. They’re too scared of losing the population they have now? Idk. It’s bewildering trying to figure out.

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> > We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> > Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.
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> Yeah. It’s not like they can’t change it. I think they’re just too conservative to give it a shot. They’re too scared of losing the population they have now? Idk. It’s bewildering trying to figure out.

No it’s really not. If you remove H3 and H4 from MCC, each game automatically has the highest potential possible to attract sufficient population and work reasonably well.

It’s not complicated at all. Do not allow ___% of H3 players to play on MCC and ___% on the original. Force them to the original where they will have ALL options/playlists/etc. Same goes for Halo 4.

Once those two games are cleared from MCC, the only games remaining are the ones not supported by Back Compat! Therefore, all who want to play HCE/H2/H2A will also be forced to play together in one spot!

See how simple it is?

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> > I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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> We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.

You completely nailed it. I love halo 3 and halo ce, but HALO 2 is my #1 and I would have shelled out more than 100 bucks for the remastered campaign and multiplayer with the same treatment and that’s it… But no one asked me or anyone else I bet!

Never have I been so infuriated. I get that they’re putting all their energy into halo 5 ( I would be too, as soon as I get that game and halo reach and halo 3 in backwards compatibility, I’m going to snap MCC in half and tweet a new pictures of piss and -Yoink- on it to bravo every single day) but I’m beyond frustrated with the TERRIBLE lack of support MCC has gotten, specifically in halo 3. Why they added it to the hardcore playlist when SHOTS DO NOT REGISTER, when there are GRENADE glitches, and rampant cheating, is also beyond me. I don’t understand what is so difficult about doing what works, ie follow in Bungies footsteps. They weren’t perfect but as I told my doubles partner, I’d rather play Halo CE on the original Xbox on a 15 inch standard def TV than halo 4, or anything on MCC.

I love how they keep saying in all their -Yoink- press releases that the game will be supported post launch like it never has been before. Yea because all they’ve done since halo 4 is patch glitches and mistakes they’ve made. They’ve never delivered s game that’s worth the price they charge. I genuinely have no clue how 343 can out such a positive attitude on things because they are still wretchedly incompetent.

Im just so upset because they’ve managed to ruin my favorite halo game of all time, halo 2 in the process. Love the campaign, I really want an answer as to why they had to make H2a at all. It doesn’t play the same at all and it looks cartoony at best.

343, as someone that has spent hundreds of hours and dollars on this -Yoinking!- franchise, get your -Yoink- together. OP didn’t go about it the right way to really get a response, but as I wrote this my rage and frustration have turned it into the same thing. So enjoy 343, you’ve turned a die hard fan into a life long hater. I wish I could erase your name from the credentials of halo so I don’t start out in such a bad mood

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> > > > I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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> > > We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> > > Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.
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> > Yeah. It’s not like they can’t change it. I think they’re just too conservative to give it a shot. They’re too scared of losing the population they have now? Idk. It’s bewildering trying to figure out.
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> No it’s really not. If you remove H3 and H4 from MCC, each game automatically has the highest potential possible to attract sufficient population and work reasonably well.
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> It’s not complicated at all. Do not allow ___% of H3 players to play on MCC and ___% on the original. Force them to the original where they will have ALL options/playlists/etc. Same goes for Halo 4.
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> Once those two games are cleared from MCC, the only games remaining are the ones not supported by Back Compat! Therefore, all who want to play HCE/H2/H2A will also be forced to play together in one spot!
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> See how simple it is?

Fantastic. Would you please put in an application at 343 Kliff? Because that’s a game I would like to play, instead of the festering steaming miserable -Yoinked!- up pathetic piece of gutter trash that is MCC. I find it funny they don’t even have the pride to defend and maintain something they put hundreds of hours into creating. 343 doesn’t have enough integrity to do anything except suck microsofts -Yoink- and pretend they give a -Yoink- about anything except preorders.

seriously I love your idea, playable editions of the first 2 halos would make my day.

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> > > > I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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> > > We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> > > Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.
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> > Yeah. It’s not like they can’t change it. I think they’re just too conservative to give it a shot. They’re too scared of losing the population they have now? Idk. It’s bewildering trying to figure out.
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> No it’s really not. If you remove H3 and H4 from MCC, each game automatically has the highest potential possible to attract sufficient population and work reasonably well.
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> It’s not complicated at all. Do not allow ___% of H3 players to play on MCC and ___% on the original. Force them to the original where they will have ALL options/playlists/etc. Same goes for Halo 4.
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> Once those two games are cleared from MCC, the only games remaining are the ones not supported by Back Compat! Therefore, all who want to play HCE/H2/H2A will also be forced to play together in one spot!
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> See how simple it is?

I meant it’s hard to figure out why they won’t make some changes.

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> > > > > I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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> > > > We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> > > > Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.
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> > > Yeah. It’s not like they can’t change it. I think they’re just too conservative to give it a shot. They’re too scared of losing the population they have now? Idk. It’s bewildering trying to figure out.
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> > No it’s really not. If you remove H3 and H4 from MCC, each game automatically has the highest potential possible to attract sufficient population and work reasonably well.
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> > It’s not complicated at all. Do not allow ___% of H3 players to play on MCC and ___% on the original. Force them to the original where they will have ALL options/playlists/etc. Same goes for Halo 4.
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> > Once those two games are cleared from MCC, the only games remaining are the ones not supported by Back Compat! Therefore, all who want to play HCE/H2/H2A will also be forced to play together in one spot!
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> > See how simple it is?
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> Fantastic. Would you please put in an application at 343 Kliff? Because that’s a game I would like to play, instead of the festering steaming miserable -Yoinked!- up pathetic piece of gutter trash that is MCC. I find it funny they don’t even have the pride to defend and maintain something they put hundreds of hours into creating. 343 doesn’t have enough integrity to do anything except suck microsofts -Yoink- and pretend they give a -Yoink- about anything except preorders.
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> seriously I love your idea, playable editions of the first 2 halos would make my day.

Thanks. But this is actually carltonhilson’s idea. I would love to work at 343, though!

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> > > > > I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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> > > > We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> > > > Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.
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> > > Yeah. It’s not like they can’t change it. I think they’re just too conservative to give it a shot. They’re too scared of losing the population they have now? Idk. It’s bewildering trying to figure out.
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> > No it’s really not. If you remove H3 and H4 from MCC, each game automatically has the highest potential possible to attract sufficient population and work reasonably well.
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> > It’s not complicated at all. Do not allow ___% of H3 players to play on MCC and ___% on the original. Force them to the original where they will have ALL options/playlists/etc. Same goes for Halo 4.
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> > Once those two games are cleared from MCC, the only games remaining are the ones not supported by Back Compat! Therefore, all who want to play HCE/H2/H2A will also be forced to play together in one spot!
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> > See how simple it is?
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> I meant it’s hard to figure out why they won’t make some changes.

Whoops! My bad, I apologize!

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> > > > > I was just wondering yesterday where we would be if they had started with BC instead of the MCC. Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
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> > > > We’d more than likely be enjoying an excellent Halo 2 Remaster, complete with both the Campaign we see in MCC, and a multiplayer that mirrors what’s seen in the campaign (aside from the ability to flip between remastered/original looks, obviously).
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> > > > Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.
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> > > Yeah. It’s not like they can’t change it. I think they’re just too conservative to give it a shot. They’re too scared of losing the population they have now? Idk. It’s bewildering trying to figure out.
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> > No it’s really not. If you remove H3 and H4 from MCC, each game automatically has the highest potential possible to attract sufficient population and work reasonably well.
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> > It’s not complicated at all. Do not allow ___% of H3 players to play on MCC and ___% on the original. Force them to the original where they will have ALL options/playlists/etc. Same goes for Halo 4.
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> > Once those two games are cleared from MCC, the only games remaining are the ones not supported by Back Compat! Therefore, all who want to play HCE/H2/H2A will also be forced to play together in one spot!
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> > See how simple it is?
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> Fantastic. Would you please put in an application at 343 Kliff? Because that’s a game I would like to play, instead of the festering steaming miserable -Yoinked!- up pathetic piece of gutter trash that is MCC. I find it funny they don’t even have the pride to defend and maintain something they put hundreds of hours into creating. 343 doesn’t have enough integrity to do anything except suck microsofts -Yoink- and pretend they give a -Yoink- about anything except preorders.
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> seriously I love your idea, playable editions of the first 2 halos would make my day.

I would love for them to simply take my suggestion and run with it. If they were to request my assistance, I would oblige.

All I’m asking is they do the right thing which provides us a reasonable chance to salvage whatever slither of “Classic” Halo (Real Halo a**s far as I’m concerned) they have not already destroyed. They’re going to continue their prideful stroll away from Halo in favor of continuing/furthering their own agenda–that clearly produces noticeably inferior products–and keep calling the results “Halo”. I see it and so I point it out, because surprisingly enough, some do not see it. Although I do take time to try pointing it out, I truly don’t have any desire to try to stop them. If they’re as determined as they seem, then I have no desire to stand in front of, or ride along with them inside of their train, because it will eventually crash, and when it does it’ll have happened all on it’s own.

For now though, they’re full-steam ahead, seemingly headed straight for their intended destination. I suppose they aren’t wrong to a certain extent. However, when they arrive and find the grass there is just cheap, green carpet one might expect to find inside of a redneck HS wrestling facility, I imagine they might begin to regret not having done just the thing they’d signed up for in the beginning: Continuing and preserving the Halo game series. Maybe not, who knows? Perhaps they’d maintain they were happy to have tried their way, and done so relentlessly, despite all the signs and failures that arguably render the efforts epitomes of Einstein’s definition for insanity. They’re selfishly attempting to make Halo different enough to let them claim it as their own. The mindset necessary to embark upon such a frivolous quest isn’t one that I care fooling myself into thinking I could alter in any real and/or positive way.

So, TLDR: I hope they take what I suggested and allow everyone to enjoy the benefits of deciding to make use of it. As for me applying to work with/for them, I’d rather not step between them and their collective pride.

Edit: I want to mention this - People take majorly popular things and put their name on it all the time without any consequence, but when this is the case, it’s because the original didn’t just happen yesterday. Take The Dark Knight trilogy for example. Sure, it sucks for 343 I guess, but they didn’t have to work at 343 either. Halo could’ve been preserved and continued properly by other (perhaps even less talented individuals), without any breaks in the standard development cycle after Bungies departure, and the result would’ve been just as profitable if not more than what we’ve actually seen. After all, that’s literally why “343 industries” was said to exist! Unfortunate that didn’t turn out to be the case. $ o’er errthang doh nawmeen?

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> > Hindsight is indeed 20/20, but that’s just an empty cliche here when/if those whom chose MCC over a complete H2A had foresight enough to see what we clearly can now after the fact.
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> You completely nailed it. I love halo 3 and halo ce, but HALO 2 is my #1 and I would have shelled out more than 100 bucks for the remastered campaign and multiplayer with the same treatment and that’s it… But no one asked me or anyone else I bet!
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> Never have I been so infuriated. I get that they’re putting all their energy into halo 5 ( I would be too, as soon as I get that game and halo reach and halo 3 in backwards compatibility, I’m going to snap MCC in half and tweet a new pictures of piss and -Yoink- on it to bravo every single day) but I’m beyond frustrated with the TERRIBLE lack of support MCC has gotten, specifically in halo 3. Why they added it to the hardcore playlist when SHOTS DO NOT REGISTER, when there are GRENADE glitches, and rampant cheating, is also beyond me. I don’t understand what is so difficult about doing what works, ie follow in Bungies footsteps. They weren’t perfect but as I told my doubles partner, I’d rather play Halo CE on the original Xbox on a 15 inch standard def TV than halo 4, or anything on MCC.
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> I love how they keep saying in all their -Yoink- press releases that the game will be supported post launch like it never has been before. Yea because all they’ve done since halo 4 is patch glitches and mistakes they’ve made. They’ve never delivered s game that’s worth the price they charge. I genuinely have no clue how 343 can out such a positive attitude on things because they are still wretchedly incompetent.
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> Im just so upset because they’ve managed to ruin my favorite halo game of all time, halo 2 in the process. Love the campaign, I really want an answer as to why they had to make H2a at all. It doesn’t play the same at all and it looks cartoony at best.
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> 343, as someone that has spent hundreds of hours and dollars on this -Yoinking!- franchise, get your -Yoink- together. OP didn’t go about it the right way to really get a response, but as I wrote this my rage and frustration have turned it into the same thing. So enjoy 343, you’ve turned a die hard fan into a life long hater. I wish I could erase your name from the credentials of halo so I don’t start out in such a bad mood

Glad to hear someone else gets it regarding the choice to repackage and resell samplers of old games over remastering one, and doing it all the way.

After having a couple of days to reflect, I feel the way I went about communicating this was a bit long-winded, but the tone used throughout I certainly don’t regret. Just look at how far all the “politically correct” requests have gotten. If 343’s actions (or deliberate inactions) could be translated into words, I have a hard time seeing the end result coming without a NSFW preface. Put me in a room with them, and I’d say just what I did, and just as I said it in my OP. Polite and professional are for rooms full of cubicles and slaves.

343 should be hoping for genuine feedback, and I hope they are. I hope they see the difference between someone who tip-toes on eggshells, dropping half of what they truly want to say by time they reach the boss’s office to submit their request, and someone who’ll take nothing before they rejoice over receiving just a fraction of what was on their minds. If honest feedback is of some real importance to them, mine can be found/had above.

The saying “don’t mistake kindness for weakness” has an equally true, mirrored counterpart about strength and unkindness.

P.S. - No reason to be a hater. 343 could be comprised of totally different people this time next year. Judge the game, not the company name. If the games keep sucking, then start looking at the actions of those in charge. If you want to lobby for something without being a hater, say what you see, and say it how you mean it. Plenty of ways to do it without crossing the imaginary lines. You’ll never be respected unless you respect yourself enough to draw a line in the sand. If this community is guilty of anything, it’s for cowering to the man in charge so much that Halo 5 can be advertised as “Taking Halo Back To Its’ Roots”. That’s such a partial truth that it’s nearly a lie. It sure works on us though doesn’t it?

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H2A is just going to be my forge game til Halo 5 comes along, then I’ll play Reach on BC.

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You’re taking apart a game thats already made. I’ll be on H5, unless its bad. Then I’ll be on OG H3.

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> 343 industries,
> Once Backward Compatibility has launched, you’re going to do the overwhelmingly obvious, correct thing, right? Remove Halo 3 and Halo 4’s MP, then dedicate the vacant space to HCE/H2/H2A?

So, you want them to remove features from the game and force players of those features to go and play elsewhere, possibly costing those players more money in the process and most certainly fragmenting an already fragmented player base? I’m not sure I’m following the logic here, as this suggestion doesn’t seem to improve the quality of the game for anyone.

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> > Once Backward Compatibility has launched, you’re going to do the overwhelmingly obvious, correct thing, right? Remove Halo 3 and Halo 4’s MP, then dedicate the vacant space to HCE/H2/H2A?
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> So, you want them to remove features from the game and force players of those features to go and play elsewhere, possibly costing those players more money in the process and most certainly fragmenting an already fragmented player base? I’m not sure I’m following the logic here, as this suggestion doesn’t seem to improve the quality of the game for anyone.

If H3 or H4 was my favorite game to the extent that I didn’t want to play anything else, I would want them to remove it from MCC. I don’t think it would fragment the playerbase of those games. On the contrary, it’s fragmented now, and forcing the playerbase to all be on the same server would consolidate the fans and make it possible to have more playlists and find games faster.

That being said, there’s no way they’ll do that. Some people sold their 360 and their copies of H3 and H4 and can’t afford to have a One and a 360. I would love to see 343 remove H3 and H4 from MCC MM and just give those players a free download of said games, but it’s just not going to happen.

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> > Once Backward Compatibility has launched, you’re going to do the overwhelmingly obvious, correct thing, right? Remove Halo 3 and Halo 4’s MP, then dedicate the vacant space to HCE/H2/H2A?
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> So, you want them to remove features from the game and force players of those features to go and play elsewhere, possibly costing those players more money in the process and most certainly fragmenting an already fragmented player base? I’m not sure I’m following the logic here, as this suggestion doesn’t seem to improve the quality of the game for anyone.

Right… Yeah…

Well, if you disregard the fact that Halo 4 on the MCC is not actually Halo 4, but a stripped down version that seems to be more in line with the other three games’ style, and you totally ignore the fact that MCC’s H3’-Yoink!- registration is atrocious due to conversion to 60fps, AND you want to overlook the fact that none of these games can have more than one dedicated playlist because 5 titles sharing one place cannot work, (almost forgot) AND if you’d like to say you didn’t know that Xbox One’s BC feature will allow XOne to play with 360 players . . .

If you prefer to ignore all of the above, that’s your business, and I’m sure you can keep coming to the same conclusion that you already have. If that’s the way you want it, please don’t let me get in your way. Keep pretending what I’m suggesting isn’t the overwhelmingly superior option. You have every right to keep your eyes closed.

However, if you’d like to look at the bigger picture and recognize the blatantly obvious fact that once H3 and H4 are supported by backward compatibility, both of these games become true to their original forms, meaning they offer vastly superior variety and improved gameplay, then I welcome you aboard the common sense train. We need more passengers for sure.

If you have a better solution, please share it. Until then, I suggest you get on board with what I’ve suggested here, because it’s the best possible outcome we can hope for, until someone comes up with something better at least.

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> > > Once Backward Compatibility has launched, you’re going to do the overwhelmingly obvious, correct thing, right? Remove Halo 3 and Halo 4’s MP, then dedicate the vacant space to HCE/H2/H2A?
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> > So, you want them to remove features from the game and force players of those features to go and play elsewhere, possibly costing those players more money in the process and most certainly fragmenting an already fragmented player base? I’m not sure I’m following the logic here, as this suggestion doesn’t seem to improve the quality of the game for anyone.
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> If H3 or H4 was my favorite game to the extent that I didn’t want to play anything else, I would want them to remove it from MCC. I don’t think it would fragment the playerbase of those games. On the contrary, it’s fragmented now, and forcing the playerbase to all be on the same server would consolidate the fans and make it possible to have more playlists and find games faster.
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> That being said, there’s no way they’ll do that. Some people sold their 360 and their copies of H3 and H4 and can’t afford to have a One and a 360. I would love to see 343 remove H3 and H4 from MCC MM and just give those players a free download of said games, but it’s just not going to happen.

Bingo. Excellent post.

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> You’re taking apart a game thats already made. I’ll be on H5, unless its bad. Then I’ll be on OG H3.

Ok. So are you disagreeing or agreeing? What?

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> > > Once Backward Compatibility has launched, you’re going to do the overwhelmingly obvious, correct thing, right? Remove Halo 3 and Halo 4’s MP, then dedicate the vacant space to HCE/H2/H2A?
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> > So, you want them to remove features from the game and force players of those features to go and play elsewhere, possibly costing those players more money in the process and most certainly fragmenting an already fragmented player base? I’m not sure I’m following the logic here, as this suggestion doesn’t seem to improve the quality of the game for anyone.
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> Well, if you disregard the fact that Halo 4 on the MCC is not actually Halo 4, but a stripped down version that seems to be more in line with the other three games’ style, and you totally ignore the fact that MCC’s H3’-Yoink!- registration is atrocious due to conversion to 60fps, AND you want to overlook the fact that none of these games can have more than one dedicated playlist because 5 titles sharing one place cannot work, (almost forgot) AND if you’d like to say you didn’t know that Xbox One’s BC feature will allow XOne to play with 360 players . . .
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> If you prefer to ignore all of the above, that’s your business, and I’m sure you can keep coming to the same conclusion that you already have. If that’s the way you want it, please don’t let me get in your way. Keep pretending what I’m suggesting isn’t the overwhelmingly superior option. You have every right to keep your eyes closed.
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> However, if you’d like to look at the bigger picture and recognize the blatantly obvious fact that once H3 and H4 are supported by backward compatibility, both of these games become true to their original forms, meaning they offer vastly superior variety and improved gameplay, then I welcome you aboard the common sense train. We need more passengers for sure.
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> If you have a better solution, please share it. Until then, I suggest you get on board with what I’ve suggested here, because it’s the best possible outcome we can hope for, until someone comes up with something better at least.

I forgot about backwards compatibility. It wouldn’t cost H3 and H4 fans a cent! (If 343 wanted to do the right thing.)