Just curious, what makes it annoying?
As far as I can tell its because it is harder to get head shots.
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So, sometimes I like you? But right now, I think you need a serious reality check hombre.
“We shouldn’t care what the minority likes” is a stupid poisonous mindset that not only halts progress but speaks to the immense privilege and lethargic comfort of groups that have never had to adjust for anything.
You make me hope they remove BR tactical entirely, so that all we ever get is stuff you call “Gimmick” slayer. Let me tell you a thing…
That core “Majority” audience you keep harping about? Is already frakking gone. This game doesn’t have 20,000 players to its name. It may not even have 10,000. Sorry bucko, we’re all the minority today.
“That’s kinda’ the entire problem with AAA gaming these days isn’t it? They keep catering to the minority.”
Gods. What a daffy, myopic, uninformed take - do you even TALK TO pros or do you just whine about them relentlessly? Do you have ANY CLUE how mad pros are at Infinite? At 343i for literally never listening to them?
My Gods, do you know anything about Infinite’s Radar? Every single adjustment made to it has been “Well let’s do what the pros didn’t say” making the most busted version yet.
Do you really think Desync being NOT prioritized, is favoring pros?
Do you think their stupid FAVOR THE SHOOTER thing, favors pros?
Do you ACTUALLY think the CRAPTASTIC maps that NONE OF THE PROS LIKE aside from like, Live Fire and Aquarius - which ARE good - are what pros want?
Do you HONESTLY THINK ANY PROS want Bloom? They don’t! Oh my GODS they don’t, and none of them are happy about its inclusion!
You do not know ANYTHING about pros! Your pros are hypothetical boogeyman who exist for the sake of whatever argument you want to make that day.
Gods, Sodium. Again, sometimes I like you, but touch some grass and talk to a high tier comp player. They’re not hard to find!
Sod it, we’re not hard to find!
Lol, make sure to include a trigger warning next time.
Anyways, it seems to me like “they” aren’t catering to any group right now, other than maybe their work/life balance. I can’t even say they are catering to their investors, because so many things right now seem to actively push people away from spending money.
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Hmm . . . so your saying that all the playlists shouldn’t exist?
Because the majority of players actually do not play more than like three gamemodes if they could help it.
KOTH bois don’t really enjoy Assault much.
FFA Slayer bois don’t really play Oddball and CTF that often.
Zombies players probably don’t adhere to BTB playlists very much.
The “majority of players” is an asinine statement since there is no such thing as 51% of the playerbase plays “x” gamemode.
Majority of SWAT players
don’t like playing Mangler, SK, Commando or Stalker SWAT, so why force them to play?
Even if you put a Veto system into the game, you will never get those modes voted since people don’t like playing them. What’s the whole she-bang about matchmaking and forcing everyone to not have a good time? Just for you?
When a playlist is created, it’s for people who desire the modes in that playlist to queue for it. When a match composer is used, you select what you want to play. You don’t force everyone to play at random what only one person may enjoy, nor do you get the entire population to spin the wheel for a mode not even one of the 8 players matched enjoy.
MCC’s rotational works because it shuffles around modes in the Action Sack weekly so it’s singled out for people to play. And match for it if they wish. They don’t lump it together with Arena and force everyone to play something like Griefball when all they wanna do is shoot something right?
The way I see it? If you like a mode which people don’t like in matchmaking, you should host a customs. What? People don’t wanna join your custom game with that mode? Gee guess people don’t wanna play it afterall. To hell with forcing public matchmaking to go with your individualistic whims.
343 is certainly not helping us by removing pre and post game lobbies or veto system, or the ability to communicate your desire to the rest of the room to appeal to them, but that’s another issue altogether.
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Because 343’s multiplayer designers wanted us to be limited in a game with the subtitle of “Infinite”
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I honestly prefer the Mangler to the Sidekick. I loathe the sidekick, that little pellet gun POS can leave the game and never come back. I’d rather deal with the Halo 3 ODST pistol over the Sidekick.
I mean, frankly, because it gets stale. I’ll give 343i this, they at least want us to have some frakkin’ variety.
Technically the Sidekick is strictly superior to the Sidekick in every way EXCEPT the fact it has 4 more shots and no bloom.
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thank you, I genuinely needed this laugh today 
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You think 343 actually WANTS to do something to make their players happy? What a concept! Seems like a simple fix that would make a LOT of us players actually enjoy the game without the frustration of getting these crap variants. I can’t believe how many players quit matches, with me and my friends doing so as well. We refuse to play with the stalker, and also the commando most of the time. Luckily they don’t ban us until we quit out of several games.
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Honestly Commando tactical is kinda’ cool so long as you’re not spamming. Really rewards good control of the rifle.
If you want proper Commando training though go play Last Spartan Standing. NOTHING will make you as good at them as THAT mode does.
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Instantly back out when I see stalker or mangler. (It’s not gonna be fun) unless i have challenges
Commando swat is fine.
BR and sidekick are the best.
Mangler swat sucks
Slow to fire after trigger pull so you have to pre pull.
Stalker swat…
Slow gun long zoom feels like its meant for longer ranges.
Close to mid range fights always bad.
Be glad we don’t have Shock riffle swat
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What? I snap Mangler shots off like it’s nothing, what are you doing?
That’s the mistake you’re making. It has perfect accuracy. You don’t need to zoom. It’s a hipfire monster.
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I don’t know or understand why they can’t make us a BR only Tactical Slayer or better yet call it SWAT like it always has been. Is it really that difficult? I’ve read a lot of posts here and elsewhere with people hating these crappy variants. They suck. NOTHING like these in past games. The commando jumps around like crazy and I just can’t get it right up close, but do okay at a distance zoomed in. The manglers can be fun but don’t belong here. The stalker seems like more of a sniper rifle so put them there. I played last night and got the BR’s a lot more and wish it was always like that but I’m it was a fluke as we usually only get them a couple times out of 20 or more games.
I suppose it’s annoying in that when queuing for tactical, I’m thinking/expecting older SWAT playlists. I really wish matchmaking allowed pre-match social voting, not unlike Reach, so at least the players can say back to 343, essentially, “this game-type is preferred”.
I didn’t realize when I wrote the post that that was what was bothering me. Given the other comments, I guess my aim isn’t as good as it should be if I’m frustrated using the stalker rifle.
This is my sentiment, the whole reply, but this too:
Yes pls:
Agree and this is a symptom of the changes made to auto aim where the game actually moves the reticle instead of allowing the gamer to aim.:
Same: