Was anyone else disappointed with the conclusion of Spartan Ops first season ??
They could’ve rescued Halsey … Who then got another interaction with the librarian … Who told her the Janis key was for them to have the technology to prepare for the Precursors / floods return …
Then Jul could’ve still put requiem on a collision course with the sun with a view to destroying the Humans who’d thwarted him .
Crimson and Majestic could have still saved the day and got Halsey back to the infinity , who could have then explained herself to Lasky and Osman about the incoming threat to humanity
… Hell John could’ve even got a 3 second on screen appearance with Lasky saying to Halsey - " here’s someone you’ll be delighted in speaking too " .
Then The community would’ve been joyous and thankful .
But no 343 decided with this questionable direction and , in my opinion , have just stagnated and completely ruined all foreshadowing and intrigue - and scope for expansion .
but now …No cortana comeback.
No Didact comeback .
No librarian comebacks .
> Was anyone else disappointed with the conclusion of Spartan Ops first season ??
> They could’ve rescued Halsey … Who then got another interaction with the librarian … Who told her the Janis key was for them to have the technology to prepare for the Precursors / floods return …
Unlike her time with John, the librarian wasn’t being rushed this time. If she wanted to tell hasley what they were preparing for, she would have.
> Then Jul could’ve still put requiem on a collision course with the sun with a view to destroying the Humans who’d thwarted him .
> Crimson and Majestic could have still saved the day and got Halsey back to the infinity , who could have then explained herself to Lasky and Osman about the incoming threat to humanity
> … Hell John could’ve even got a 3 second on screen appearance with Lasky saying to Halsey - " here’s someone you’ll be delighted in speaking too " .
Yes, cause fan service isn’t a sign of stagnation.
> Then The community would’ve been joyous and thankful .
> But no 343 decided with this questionable direction and , in my opinion , have just stagnated and completely ruined all foreshadowing and intrigue - and scope for expansion .
> but now …No cortana comeback.
> No Didact comeback .
> No librarian comebacks .
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> Really 343 ? Really ?
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> Stagnation ???
If cortana came back, it’d be too soon. It’d be like the movie spock got ressurected in coming out 4 months after the one he died in.
Same with the didact.
Librarian actually coming back seems to be tied in with Primordium novel, which takes place after halo 4.
Spartan Ops was testing the waters, they didnt want to exhaust all their options with 1 season.
That all being said, I did find the conclusion underwhelming. I probably would have been happy with it ending with episode 9’s cutscene.
> Yes, cause fan service isn’t a sign of stagnation.
It’s not actually, it shows they actually care about the game. Bungie knows this well, it’s the reason they’re so successful - why halo grew in the first place. It’s also the reason why it’s slowly dying.
> > Yes, cause fan service isn’t a sign of stagnation.
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> It’s not actually, it shows they actually care about the game. Bungie knows this well, it’s the reason they’re so successful - why halo grew in the first place. It’s also the reason why it’s slowly dying.
Because blue team showed up in the original trilogy?
Because halo 1-3 had happy endings?
Most things people are expecting are things bungie never did either.
They had absolutely no idea where the Knight took Jul and Halsey. Jul immedietly set a collision course with the sun and fled the planet. With Infinity locked in place, they didn’t have time for a search and rescue. And they didn’t have time to track where Jul’s fleet went.
Spartan Ops Season 1 was to bridge the gap between Halo 4 and 5. And they did just that, now we have a motive and story direction for Halo 5 to start with that doesn’t feel forced or random from Halo 4’s end.
Thinking about it … The Librarians encounter was indeed rushed , what with the conflict going on outside with between fire team majestic and Jul .
And bridge the gap between 4 and 5 ?? How exactly when they haven’t even left a lot of foreshadowing and progression and openings for 5 except going after Halsey , Jul and the Janis key really have they ??
They could’ve written in Saving Halsey there and then And changed the plot similar to how my orignal post detailed and they’d have left a more scope for expansion and pleased the fans a LOT more .
But the ‘re-written’ ending doesn’t add anymore intrigue for foreshadowing.
We already know the precursors are coming as viewers, having it blatently stated doesn’t do anything. The fact they arent telling us more implies precursors are coming later than sooner.
Osman would probably lock up halsey again.
The only change looks like we have to chase after jul with the key, as opposed to jul with AND halsey.
I dont see how you ending makes the plot itself any better, beyond being the 2nd happy ending in halo (ODST being the first).
I can agree with you to an extent … But I’d say the intrigue would be not knowing the full scope I what the Precursors and flood will entail .
And lets not forget … That intrigue would’ve been multiplied a thousand fold to the gamers who don’t follow the novels also !! ( missed marketing opportunity there Frankie ? ) .
Agreed , Halsey would’ve still been under lock and key by Osman despite bringing this invaluable intel on the incoming threat AND the knowledge of the second half of the Janis key ( although , yes it was surmised by Glassman ) .
She’s have also been the best chance of tracing it through her unrivalled forerunner tech Knowledge / intuition !
I’m awake I’m sounding like a broken record here , but Stagnation ? Wasted opportunities ? Misjudgement ?
I believe so .
> Thinking about it … The Librarians encounter was indeed rushed , what with the conflict going on outside with between fire team majestic and Jul .
> And bridge the gap between 4 and 5 ?? How exactly when they haven’t even left a lot of foreshadowing and progression and openings for 5 except going after Halsey , Jul and the Janis key really have they ??
> They could’ve written in Saving Halsey there and then And changed the plot similar to how my orignal post detailed and they’d have left a more scope for expansion and pleased the fans a LOT more .
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> It just stagnated in my opinion .
Your ending leaves a lot less of a story to continue than this.
And it seems a lot too fairy tale happy ending to me, everythings all good.
And you do realize Halsey would be shot on sight if she is brought back on Infinity? The head of ONI ordered her execution on the advice of Admiral Parangosky. She won’t be changing her mind after everything Halsey has done.
This ending set up Halo 5 so much more. The Covenant is still around and dangerous. The two halves of the key are in different sides’ hands, a great ironic opportunity. Halsey finally acts on her countless betrayals by ONI and seeks revenge, this is an amazing plot twist.
Halo 5 will be about Jul attacking us or we finding him, trying to grab the other key. This sets the stage for a perfect way to continue expressing Chief’s Humanity… finding Halsey working with the bad guys? What will Halsey do? Chief won’t do it if he is ordered to kill Halsey, but he won’t let anyone else kill Halsey. Its a great plot opportunity.
Its a lot more to go on than Halo 4’s ending. With your ending, everything is all and well. Where do you continue the story? And they still don’t know of the Precursor threat. All the Janus Key gives them is locations of the Forerunner tech.
SpOps’ ending sets the stage for a game, trying to find the other Key and offering a major plot point of what happens when Chief finds Halsey.
For me, at least, this ending is so much more satisfying. Feels more like the beginning of a trilogy. There are 3 games to Reclaimer everything and introduce the Precursors and stuff. There can’t be a happy ending yet. This gives us something to work with.
> Was anyone else disappointed with the conclusion of Who told her the Janis key was for them to have the technology to prepare for the Precursors
Where the ef did the librarian say any of that crap? She said “Propel mankind into the stars” none of this precursor nonsense. There are plenty of children books with happy endings if that’s what you want because realistically it never is a perfect happy ending.
Only myself yeah ?! Read multiple threads in the universe forum and then conclude that it’s only me yeah !!
Also , you should try being less rude and inflammatory … And Star Wars and Bambi comparisons really ?!
Well thought out !!
And where would Halsey get the chance to talk to the Librarian again?
She would be shot on sight. ONI ordered her dead, Palmer won’t let Lasky mess that up.
If she survives, Infinity is anchored to Requiem and Requiem is plunging into the sun. If Jul didn’t do it, he would have had someone initiate the evacuation. They’d obviously had this escape plan planned already. Its usually hard to have a conversation when you melt down and explode.
My ending would have left exactly the same amount of option as this one .
Jul would’ve still been out there as a threat …
Halsey would’ve still been the same wild card but this time would’ve been able to bring the librarians plans and warnings of the impending threats which I feel would’ve left more intrigue and greater continuity and foreshadowing . It feels stagnant to me now .
Right now also … It would’ve done 343 a lot if favours , and kept fans happier .
This is all very objective anyways and I thank you for your opinions and putting them through constructively and politely .
> And where would Halsey get the chance to talk to the Librarian again?
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> 1. She would be shot on sight. ONI ordered her dead, Palmer won’t let Lasky mess that up.
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> 2. If she survives, Infinity is anchored to Requiem and Requiem is plunging into the sun. If Jul didn’t do it, he would have had someone initiate the evacuation. They’d obviously had this escape plan planned already. Its usually hard to have a conversation when you melt down and explode.
Because I said they could’ve rescued her there ( if Palmer had shot Jul , Halsey could’ve wriggled free ) and then with Only Jul escaping with the Key .
1-With Palmer returning with Halsey the other half of the Key , this new Intel , and also the Intel that Halsey wasnt being a traitor and assisting the Enemy … WOULD the execution order stand ? Or is Osman intelligent enough to deduce Halseys new great Value ??
2- Quite a time Lapsed between the Spartans losing Halsey and Jul , and Jul putting his ’ Set Requiem and and anchored Infinity on a collision course plan if you remember .
Glass man figured it out … You thinking Halsey wouldn’t ?
> My ending would have left exactly the same amount of option as this one .
I think the problem with the community is they write fan Fics and star imagining halo in their own terms. They then have the audacity to be upset when things don’t go their way and act as if the story telling is bad.
I don’t feel the story telling was necessary bad. I just felt that its direction now has become stagnant , and we’ve witnessed a lot of wasted opportunity and potential .
Reading through the forums today … I don’t think I’m along in my feelings either .
