> I still cant believe how strong the ranked/social false dichotomy is. Its been 5 years. It still cloud all playlist debate.
Eh, it’s understandable. People don’t want to be playing “silly” gametypes like Shotty Snipers when their rank is on the line.
> Why would you want to merge arena in this though? Its supposed to be a pure slayer list on purpose. The only place where the small proportion of players who REALLY give a damn about hardcore competition and stats can go. The rest of is people who just like playing reach.
Those who enjoy hardcore competition also enjoy objective. They also don’t care as much about stats as you might think. It’s the reason Arena shifted to W/L as well as the reason that MLG includes lots of objective gametypes.
> I could see something being done with super slayer though, the only reason its still around is because people voted hard for it. But the objective players would probably not be too happy at being made to play slayer.
Ideally we could keep it separate, but all three of the playlists can’t even maintain a population above 1000 at peak times. I think this is the best way for people to be able to find quality matches while still getting the gametypes and maps they want.
> Zealot is too small for Objective. Static spawns make it too easy to spawn camp on that map, ESPECIALLY in a playlist with more than 8 players. Pinnacle, Boardwalk, and Sword Base may work for one flag and a few other gametypes, although no Slayer on those maps. Also, add some of the other Objectives (I could see some fun 3 plot games on Wayont for example). Loadouts should be Sprint, Active Camo, and Hologram in all gametypes.
I’ve updated the OP so that Zealot is used for Slayer gametypes only. I’ve also added Boardwalk as a 1 flag only map. I think we can pass on Pinnacle and Sword Base though. See my reply to CAVEMANcr as to why I haven’t included the other objective gametypes. As for Active Camo, it doesn’t belong in a ranked playspace. Hence why it was removed from Arena more than a year ago.
> As for DLC, add Condemmed and Uplink for the Achievement as well as Tempest.
If it’s the only place to find the achievements then I guess we’ll have to, but if not I would rather not include them as they aren’t very fun to play on.
> Make it an Arena playlist, but make the current one Vanilla with all 5 AA’s and rank MLG. Call this playlist “Arena Squad”, which sounds better than Squad Battle and so people don’t think it’s merely ranked BTB as that’s what it was most like in Halo 3.
Why not just make Team Slayer ranked? The less redundancy, the better. We can call it whatever. It makes no difference to me. I’ll just leave the title as is and let the MM Systems Team decide what they want to call if they choose to implement it. Whether or not MLG should be ranked is entirely up to MLG.
> Make Objective in slot 1 so everyone doesn’t just vote for Slayer and have it win due to a tie. Add a permanent jackpot to it, MLG, and “The Arena”.
What about slayer fans though? Objective is going to end up appearing more often in the 3rd slot so I think it’s balanced. I wouldn’t be opposed to the jackpots.
> Definitely get rid of those ratings. Maybe then people will realize that’s it’s win/loss.
That’s the idea.
