(SPOILERS) So, time travel?

So with the legendary ending of infinite showing Atriox going to the past; a whole new can of worms has just been unleashed for the story, and I’m not a fan. Is the implication going to be the the endless can time travel? I don’t like this direction at all, time travel ruins almost every story that’s not built with it from the start like Back to the Future. I think it’s going to ruin the story.

Any thoughts?

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Well with news that’s going on with 343 right now, everything is up in the air and subject to change. They could very well turn around and do what they did with Modern Warfare. Take the characters and tell an Elseworld story.

Personally I don’t think people want that. I think people for all the misgivings do want the Chiefs story to continue.

But to answer your question. If there’s time travel I think it’s limited to the Ring. You can’t leave Zeta Halo. Likely whatever time travel exists is limited to the ring itself. A very interesting location given everything that happens there in ancient history including:

  • Mendicant destruction of Maethrillian
  • The imprisonment of the last Precursor
  • Cortanas defeat
  • The Imprisonment of the Endless

For example, let’s say Chief wanted a second go at getting Cortana back. He can’t leave Zeta Halo. So no going to Genesis in Halo 5, no influencing events in Halo 4; that’s been written. But once Cortana is on Zeta Halo and using it as her base Chief can alter events. Ie go to the Silent Auditoroum and talk her out of destroying Doisac which he seemed pretty convinced he could do.

In that way you could arbitrarily avoid too much of a butterfly effect and make it more of a limited change.

That or they really do want to use this as a vehicle to fully reset the series; not just the events they set up in Halo Infinite between 5 and that game. But all post Halo 3 content.

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I don’t want to see “time travel” in Halo… But as total_war1402 pointed out with the situation at 343 right who knows what is going to happen… I just hope Halo survives and the story continues. Regardless of what is being said with Microsoft laying off workers to help save money you know they are looking at what is making enough money to continue supporting,… and I know 343/Halo are being discussed whether they want to admit or not… Hopefully 343 can get the franchise back on track.

Kind of old news but im not into this time travel trend, its cheap and you’re either going to follow the normal formula of changing the past, changes the future or have to force make up something in risking it doesn’t make sense.

Is that confirmed though? I wasn’t aware of anything specifically stating that he’s in the past and that this is more just speculation.

My per theory was that it was going to be a sort of spiritual successor to Marathon Infinity, with all kinds of weird time travel shenanigans, as said above, seems unlikely it will happen or we will know what was planned.

Pretty sure Atriox did not go to the past at all.
The year only appears in the Legendary ending alongside the dialoge.
So visuals = present time, dialogue = past.

Time travel is a franchise killer, if they were to bring it to Halo I would just stop following the franchise.

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Agreed.

It seems like they are going in the MCU direction - a whole bunch of timelines and an untrackable amount of information and plotlines, no consistency, but they can keep making crap forever.

A good story, IMO, has a beginning, a middle, and an end.

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I hope it’s not time travel and Atriox might be having a vision.

Honestly its probably not all that different than halsey’s narration at the end of reach.

She’s not actually there on reach giving the narration. Similarly the dialogue at the end of infinite could also just be for the audience.

Where Atriox is doesnt have to be a vision fo this to wok.

Woah, that old debate again? It was confirmed a long time ago that the voice available in legendary and dated in the past is different from the Atriox scene, it doesn’t happen at the same time. So of course 343 will tell whatever story he wants whenever he wants, but this scene is absolutely not an evidence of a time travel.

To know my opinion on time travel: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/time-travel-to-the-past-is-not-a-thing-in-halo/495425

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Is there really anything left to be ruined?
I mean we havent had a well executed mainline narrative since 2004.

Halo 3, ODST, and Reach had great campaigns. What did you not like about them @Moditor_026?

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Off topic but happy to discuss in another thread.

In short great campaings yes.
But narratively share issues with all of the 343i titles.
Reach and odst also not mainline numbered enteries.
Halo 3 arguably the worst written game in the franchise with multiple contradictions in both story and characterisation

Keeping in topic.
Time travel is an awful direction for the ip but with the current state of the series since it became about a divorced space wizard and his exs ghost dictating the actions of people in the present by turning john into a mutant I cant think why anything matters at this point.
Itll get dropped in the follow up anyway.

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Then they would of stopped making Halo

20 years later and there is still good lord of the rings content coming out, but it’s not sequels.

I would honestly take nothing over taking Halo 4/5.

Even better, I’d take a new Halo Series that starts before Halo Reach and weaves a new story but doesn’t circumvent the ending of Halo 3.

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That is what I expected from the Halo show when it was announced. A prequel of sorts that weaves into the story but we got something REALLY different from expectations.

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