So i just finished reading “Shadows of reach” and blue team gets hurt, they are outnumbered, the mission is difficult…all fun stuff.
So John says several times something like things can be too much even for even a Spartan II with all the enhancements…and just then it hit me: Wasn’t John enhanced by the librarian in H4. I didn’t think about it while playing through H5 or HI (that there is no mention about that event at all), but reading the book it was obvious.
Wasn’t being enhanced by the librarian a big event?
Isn’t he more than a Spartan II?
After reading the forerunner trilogy I thought that he had gone through one of those mutations the forerunners went. Was I mistaken?
Otherwise shouldn’t he think more about that or feel it somehow? i mean shouldn’t it show somehow that he’s been improved by a forerunner?
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Chief can’t be digitized by the Composer. That was the big thing that the Librarian did for him, or at least what was immediately relevant in Halo 4. I’m not sure what, if any, other effects there were.
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Immune to compozer + 20cm taller
Execpt that, we don’t know exactly what she do to him.
"Reclaimer, when I indexed mankind for repopulation, I hid seeds from the Didact. Seeds which would lead to an eventuality. Your physical evolution. Your combat skin. Even your ancilla, Cortana. You are the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning. "
Librarian to John in Halo 4
From that dialogue, I always thought he had the consciousness of an ancient human fighter, like Chakas who had Forthencho consciousness. Unfortunately, 343 never finished this story, because at every game they made, they start a whole new story
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He grew? When is that mentioned?
Apart from what the others have mentioned. I would theorise that perhaps it had a greater effect than the Chief even notices himself yet.
The Cortana “vision” in the beginning of H5 felt very “Domainy” to me. It’s possible that the Chief is now biologically capable of connecting to the Domain without realising it.
I hope this event will have more relevance in the future. It would be cool if Chief eventually started unlocking ancient memories not his own, but from Bornstellar.
It would be cool to see Chief learn why Spark mistook him for Bornstellar in CE.
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In Halo 4 we can see he is as tall as Palmer, then in the end we can see he isone head taller
I think it was because of Spark madness due to his loneliness than he confuse him with some forerunner. At Halo CE begining, I don’t think the developpers had a vision so detailed of the forerunner story
That depiction of Chief at the end isn’t canon, it’s just for dramatic effect. In the same way, Palmer one-shotting Knights with her magnums isn’t canon either.
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How do you know it isn’t cannon, I find it nowhere, have you some article or video on th web who explain it ?
John’s canon height while in armor is 7’2", and Palmer’s canon height is 6’9" as per the Halo Encyclopedia.
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Its never been explicitly said, though there has been some confusing responses from 343 about the canonicity of the Didact’s monologue during it.
The main indicator is they haven’t changed Chief’s height in any following media. Chief’s height change in that cinematic is absolutely massive, he’s like a foot taller. Despite this:
- He’s not any taller in h4 gemplay after being altered.
- He’s shown as comparable in height to Blue Team and Osiris in H5.
- He’s depicted in comic books as being comparable in height to other spartans
- Halo infinite chief isn’t any taller than before
- No media has any character remarking on his height change.
- No modern halo media has listed a changed height
Effectively for the cutscene to be canon about his height, every other source of halo media since would have to not be depicting his canon height. That or you could argue he grew an extra foot, including his armor, for a few minutes/hours.
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I just received today my copy of the encyclopedia; I was hoping it will enlighten me in this matter.
But unfortunately there is no information about what the librarian did to MC in H4.
It is not even mentioned in the composer part that MC was immune thanks to the librarian.
The only thing we have for sure is immunity to the composer but the librarian said something like:
“The gene song I place whiting you contains many gifts including immunity to the composer, but it must be unlock” I suppose we just need to wait for those gifts to unlock to see what he’s got.
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I don’t think 343 will recame on that. They never finish their story, they just start new one and let us with all the questions
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Yeah I just don’t think they’re going to follow up on that.
The whole idea behind that is, apart from making the player the Chosen One, is it leans into the idea of Spartans being humanities next step. Humanity taking on the Mantle of Responsibility.
Sure there’s some references to that in Infinite. The Harbinger kind of, maybe, implies that when she says “you are not the future” and the “Forerunners lies are at an end”.
But yeah it’s one of many things they ain’t going to follow up on.
Like I’ve made it a running gag that Chief might be trapped in a Cylex because Cortana actually fired Zeta Halo which has sealed all the humans and Banished in a Matrix simulation at the Heart of Zeta Halo. Presumably how they could have trapped the entire Endless species as I doubt they dragged them all into the Cylexes if they were that dangerous. But then, shouldn’t Chief be immune to something that’s a lot like being composed? So even I am not factoring in that lore. 
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