I’ve heard a lot of people compare the humming by Cortana at the end of Halo 5’s legendary ending to be 343 Guilty Spark’s same tune, but I went back and listened, and it’s quite a different tune. That is what I thought initially as well, but after comparing many samples side by side they’re not all that similar. Now that is a rebuilt instillation 07 correct? AND 343 guilty spark is still around manifested on a human ship, so I could be wrong, and I hope I am because that would explain some of Cortana’s actions, but I have a feeling… What do you all think?
There was a vid on Reddit where it compared the song from the dr Halsey cutscene in the beginning to cortanas humming. Who nows maybe the story in h5 is a setup to something much deeper
angry joe talked about this in his discussion of spoilers and his review and his theory is that guilty spark is somehow involved with this whole Cortana is now the villain after watching the cutscene I can see where joe was coming from the humming Cortana was doing while showing a halo ring that is very ominous to guilty spark I have a feeling that Cortana is not acting on her own ever since she entered the domain not to mention trapping blue team in the cryptum cause right before that cutscene it looked like when chief called her name it looked like she was gonna be in tears so I don’t think she is doing this on her own
I personally think that she has kind of got her hands tied behind her back. She is being forced to carry out the will of something (forerunner) more powerful. She is looking for an opportunity to do something about the situation, but she essentially has a gun to her head. The only reason she is not giving herself up is because she has survived rampancy and as the lore explains, when an AI survives the phases of rampancy they essentially become as human as an AI can become. She’s a hostage.
OR…
Her image, data, and memories are being used to manipulate and construe the humans. She’s in a slumber in some flash drive somewhere (I’m joking of course).
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> angry joe talked about this in his discussion of spoilers and his review and his theory is that guilty spark is somehow involved with this whole Cortana is now the villain after watching the cutscene I can see where joe was coming from the humming Cortana was doing while showing a halo ring that is very ominous to guilty spark I have a feeling that Cortana is not acting on her own ever since she entered the domain not to mention trapping blue team in the cryptum cause right before that cutscene it looked like when chief called her name it looked like she was gonna be in tears so I don’t think she is doing this on her own
How would that tool know he played it on normal. Anyways I figured it could be the Librarian, 343 guilty spark (chakas) says he thinks he knows where the librarian is, at the end of the second novel in the forerunner saga.
343 was last seen heading to another installation, I think. Hopefully we will see the Flood return!
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> 343 was last seen heading to another installation, I think. Hopefully we will see the Flood return!
here is hoping that 343 doesn’t ruin the flood character models, I hate the way they look in infection.
343 is gonna -Yoink- us over again … And so is Guilty Spark
I’m also betting on Halo 6 not concluding this current plot… Halo 7 will.
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> I personally think that she has kind of got her hands tied behind her back. She is being forced to carry out the will of something (forerunner) more powerful. She is looking for an opportunity to do something about the situation, but she essentially has a gun to her head. The only reason she is not giving herself up is because she has survived rampancy and as the lore explains, when an AI survives the phases of rampancy they essentially become as human as an AI can become. She’s a hostage.
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> Her image, data, and memories are being used to manipulate and construe the humans. She’s in a slumber in some flash drive somewhere (I’m joking of course).
I’m not convinced she has survived rampancy. So far, all evidence points to Cortana being the mastermind behind everything. Even the Warden said he works for her. According to lore, the end-stage of rampancy is an AI believing themselves to be godlike, above their “lesser” creators. In Halo, she tells the chief that she’s become immortal and that the Mantel belongs to them (AIs). She takes it upon herself to rule the galaxy in the Forerunners’ absence, enforcing her version of peace with the Guardians. Hell, she pretty much said it herself: fall in line with me or die. Does that sound like a stable, rational AI? Or even like the Cortana we knew?
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> > I personally think that she has kind of got her hands tied behind her back. She is being forced to carry out the will of something (forerunner) more powerful. She is looking for an opportunity to do something about the situation, but she essentially has a gun to her head. The only reason she is not giving herself up is because she has survived rampancy and as the lore explains, when an AI survives the phases of rampancy they essentially become as human as an AI can become. She’s a hostage.
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> > Her image, data, and memories are being used to manipulate and construe the humans. She’s in a slumber in some flash drive somewhere (I’m joking of course).
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> I’m not convinced she has survived rampancy. So far, all evidence points to Cortana being the mastermind behind everything. Even the Warden said he works for her. According to lore, the end-stage of rampancy is an AI believing themselves to be godlike, above their “lesser” creators. In Halo, she tells the chief that she’s become immortal and that the Mantel belongs to them (AIs). She takes it upon herself to rule the galaxy in the Forerunners’ absence, enforcing her version of peace with the Guardians. Hell, she pretty much said it herself: fall in line with me or die. Does that sound like a stable, rational AI? Or even like the Cortana we knew?
You’re right that does bring up a valid point. However surviving rampancy + being under the influence of something more powerful? I find it harder to believe that she is doing this completely on her own accord than to believe that something off happened when she uploaded herself into the forerunners then sacrificed herself.
Another theory that I just thought of, this Cortana we’re seeing is a fraction of Cortana’s personality after the split that occurs during late stages of rampancy and this fraction of split personality is suppressing the other fractions of her? This is getting philosophical at this point lol.
We haven’t seen Installation 07 yet. Do you mean 04? Because 04 will never be rebuilt because Installation 00 and the new 04 got destroyed in Halo 3.
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> We haven’t seen Installation 07 yet. Do you mean 04? Because 04 will never be rebuilt because Installation 00 and the new 04 got destroyed in Halo 3.
No I meant installation 07. It was remodeled to 10,000 KM instead of 30,000 KM and was a large part of human testing.
It’s funny in Halo 5 Cortana echoes a few other characters from the series. In the last mission when you’re blowing up the whatever they ares she says ‘my spartans’ and in almost the exact same tone as Halsey in Halo 4’s opening cinematic.
When you’re fighting the final wave of Pronethean Knights shortly afterwards she broadcasts to the sentient species of the galaxy and talks about how the Created’s intelligence will be a luminous sun towards which all intelligent life can blossom which Echoes the Didacts speech at the end of Halo 4 word for word. Even back in Halo 3 it was hinted at that Cortana was being influenced by the grave mind.
I don’t think 343 are dropping hints that Cortana has been somehow converted by the Didact or Guilty Spark, I think it’s just indicative of how Cortana’s perspective and belief system has been influenced by various characters throughout the Halo series.
She’s certainly got a lot in common with Halsey. Her hatred of the woman blinds her to the fact that she shares the good Doctor’s belief that she is superior and that said superiority qualifies her to know and dictate what is best for others, even when that involves action which is destructive or morally questionable!
Maybe you’re right though, maybe we’ll find out that being exposed to the domain and other Forerunner AI like guilty spark corrupted or brain washed her!
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> It’s funny in Halo 5 Cortana echoes a few other characters from the series. In the last mission when you’re blowing up the whatever they ares she says ‘my spartans’ and in almost the exact same tone as Halsey in Halo 4’s opening cinematic.
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> When you’re fighting the final wave of Pronethean Knights shortly afterwards she broadcasts to the sentient species of the galaxy and talks about how the Created’s intelligence will be a luminous sun towards which all intelligent life can blossom which Echoes the Didacts speech at the end of Halo 4 word for word. Even back in Halo 3 it was hinted at that Cortana was being influenced by the grave mind.
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> I don’t think 343 are dropping hints that Cortana has been somehow converted by the Didact or Guilty Spark, I think it’s just indicative of how Cortana’s perspective and belief system has been influenced by various characters throughout the Halo series.
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> She’s certainly got a lot in common with Halsey. Her hatred of the woman blinds her to the fact that she shares the good Doctor’s belief that she is superior and that said superiority qualifies her to know and dictate what is best for others, even when that involves action which is destructive or morally questionable!
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> Maybe you’re right though, maybe we’ll find out that being exposed to the domain and other Forerunner AI like guilty spark corrupted or brain washed her!
I mean, they are incredibly more advanced than her. These AIs are ancient, yet are far beyond Cortana’s capabilities, which make me think what I thought.
Also I just hope that Cortana is just being controlled by a more powerful AI… because I really don’t feel like splazering Cortana. I really don’t wanna do it.
It’s the same song melody that was playing in the Intro with Dr. Halsey. If anybody paid attention to that that is.
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> > It’s funny in Halo 5 Cortana echoes a few other characters from the series. In the last mission when you’re blowing up the whatever they ares she says ‘my spartans’ and in almost the exact same tone as Halsey in Halo 4’s opening cinematic.
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> > When you’re fighting the final wave of Pronethean Knights shortly afterwards she broadcasts to the sentient species of the galaxy and talks about how the Created’s intelligence will be a luminous sun towards which all intelligent life can blossom which Echoes the Didacts speech at the end of Halo 4 word for word. Even back in Halo 3 it was hinted at that Cortana was being influenced by the grave mind.
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> > I don’t think 343 are dropping hints that Cortana has been somehow converted by the Didact or Guilty Spark, I think it’s just indicative of how Cortana’s perspective and belief system has been influenced by various characters throughout the Halo series.
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> > She’s certainly got a lot in common with Halsey. Her hatred of the woman blinds her to the fact that she shares the good Doctor’s belief that she is superior and that said superiority qualifies her to know and dictate what is best for others, even when that involves action which is destructive or morally questionable!
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> > Maybe you’re right though, maybe we’ll find out that being exposed to the domain and other Forerunner AI like guilty spark corrupted or brain washed her!
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> I mean, they are incredibly more advanced than her. These AIs are ancient, yet are far beyond Cortana’s capabilities, which make me think what I thought.
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> Also I just hope that Cortana is just being controlled by a more powerful AI… because I really don’t feel like splazering Cortana. I really don’t wanna do it.
I always got the impression Cortana is the most advanced AI in the halo fiction, the didact refers to her as an ‘evolved ancilla’ in halo 4, and throughout the games she’s consistently able to infiltrate covenant and forerunner systems.
She takes the index in Halo CE and tells Spark that all he can do is ‘float and stutter’.
I’m not sure if it’s ever been established in the cannon?
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> > > It’s funny in Halo 5 Cortana echoes a few other characters from the series. In the last mission when you’re blowing up the whatever they ares she says ‘my spartans’ and in almost the exact same tone as Halsey in Halo 4’s opening cinematic.
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> > > When you’re fighting the final wave of Pronethean Knights shortly afterwards she broadcasts to the sentient species of the galaxy and talks about how the Created’s intelligence will be a luminous sun towards which all intelligent life can blossom which Echoes the Didacts speech at the end of Halo 4 word for word. Even back in Halo 3 it was hinted at that Cortana was being influenced by the grave mind.
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> > > I don’t think 343 are dropping hints that Cortana has been somehow converted by the Didact or Guilty Spark, I think it’s just indicative of how Cortana’s perspective and belief system has been influenced by various characters throughout the Halo series.
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> > > She’s certainly got a lot in common with Halsey. Her hatred of the woman blinds her to the fact that she shares the good Doctor’s belief that she is superior and that said superiority qualifies her to know and dictate what is best for others, even when that involves action which is destructive or morally questionable!
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> > > Maybe you’re right though, maybe we’ll find out that being exposed to the domain and other Forerunner AI like guilty spark corrupted or brain washed her!
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> > I mean, they are incredibly more advanced than her. These AIs are ancient, yet are far beyond Cortana’s capabilities, which make me think what I thought.
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> > Also I just hope that Cortana is just being controlled by a more powerful AI… because I really don’t feel like splazering Cortana. I really don’t wanna do it.
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> I always got the impression Cortana is the most advanced AI in the halo fiction, the didact refers to her as an ‘evolved ancilla’ in halo 4, and throughout the games she’s consistently able to infiltrate covenant and forerunner systems.
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> She takes the index in Halo CE and tells Spark that all he can do is ‘float and stutter’.
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> I’m not sure if it’s ever been established in the cannon?
Putting it that way that makes sense, but the forerunners were far more advanced than the humans and the AIs they created took a millennia to reach rampancy (40-100,000 years). It’s hard to think of Cortana as the most advanced AI… Even though she does seem to run the show. She is our sword and shield after all
ummm… am i wrong or do i distinctly remember zapping that light bulb at the end of halo 3?
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> ummm… am i wrong or do i distinctly remember zapping that light bulb at the end of halo 3?
You did… but it survived in the books and is on an ONI ship as he took it over…