You ever notice how Atriox has an acute knowledge of the location of Forerunner technologies and installations? It makes sense that he was able to find the Ark given he served in the Covenant at one point and likely knew how to access their systems…but how did he get there? There’s at least one portal on Reach which could very well be the way. But what about his knowledge of Installation 07? How would he have known where it was, and how did he know of the Xalanyn AND where to find Harbinger? And for what purpose did he free The Endless?
I sense there may be another, unseen hand at play here, or Atriox has larger goals than he has originally let on. What are your thoughts?
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At this point I feel like I’m on LOST season 3, and they just introduced another Smoke Monster or polar bear which will never be explained.
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I know of LOST but I don’t understand the reference, never watched the show lol
Lore like this may take some time to understand and get answers too, we’re venturing into a new era and there’s alot to be learned. The second Campaign or maybe extended lore should hopefully shed some light on all of it
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It was a TV show with a bunch of people stranded on an island where nearly every episode ended with something new and mysterious being introduced.
There was a mysterious Smoke Monster that killed people, a polar bear, an evil corporation, weird survival bunkers, chickens in the jungle, Jesus miracles, etc.
They just kept on building the mystery but at the end it became apparent it was all BS and they had no plan whatsoever with any of it. I think the official explanation was that all the survivors were actually dead and in purgatory or something like that.
The point is I’m beginning to think people are giving 343 too much credit when they assume there is a plan and something great to understand here.
Most likely many of these loose threads will never be addressed, and if they are they might be cut off kind of like Locke in Halo Infinite (Not that I miss Locke, that was a horrible character). Yeah he died off screen and is now a shoulder ornament.
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At the end cutscene the way he puts that thing in his hand on the pedestal to open the door mirrors how the Chief deploys the weapon. This implies it’s a Forerunner AI of some kind. That could be the source of such knowledge.
Perhaps that is Offensive Bias and the device containing its essence is some kind of shackle that compels him to serve Atriox. I mean, if he was the jailor of the Endless he would be the one to set them free which is what we see. He’s just not in his body here.
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Bungie had their fair share of loose-threads and even blatant ignorance of pre-established lore like with what happened in Reach, and the major plot holes associated with Halo 3’s whole story. But that’s okay! And just because there’s mystery in a large portion of the Campaign building up to something else doesn’t necessarily mean they have no plan, I don’t think there’s any AAA game that just writes the story on the fly, improvising as they go. There’s usually a greater plan and goal involved and Halo’s always been pretty good with continuity in it’s lore for the most part, everything has a greater plan and is interconnected in some way. A good example would be like what Destiny’s doing with it’s story, where it started and where it is now one could say they wrote it as they went or they had a plan for the story all along but either way everything connects and comes together in a good and proper way.
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If Offensive Bias is stationed on Halo 07, then he can’t be the thing that told Atriox to go to Halo 07.
Wouldn’t it be better to go back to the theory of the brutes digging for Mendicant on Sandtrap?
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I am unsure what’s up with Mendicant tbh. Wasn’t he on High Charity?
He really is the Mephisto of Halo. Every theory seems to go back to him.
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I’m not the right guy to talk about this but I was told he (mendicant Bias] was a huge problem in the Flood-Forerunner conflict and then Offensive shut him down and buried him.
I don’t know where the lore ends and the fan-theories begin, but there is a community still trying to understand the code on the multiplayer map Sandtrap, and one of the theories seems to be that Brutes were digging there and Mendicant might be (/have been) trapped underneath the level.
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Well, I think he has multiple instances of himself and they can recombine. One was the Oracle in the Forerunner Dreadnought on High Charity. Might be other places too. Another was buried on sand trap. He’s definitely helping the Chief out in Halo 3 from the Terminals.
Should all be on Halopedia mind.
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In the 2018 publication Halo: Bad Blood, it was mentioned that Doisac had no news, and ONI was unable to contact brute informants.
The layout of 343 may have started very early.
Atriox may have learned some secrets from the covenant and further mastered them in the ark.
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Bad Blood has the excuse that it takes place immediately after Halo 5. Really the first few days. Shadows of Reach and Divine Wind? Those books have full Banished POV characters and take place almost a year after Halo 5; really only a few weeks before Infinite.
The Banished do briefly consider Cortana in their thoughts and it’s basically one of indifference. They’re certainly not out for blood and vengeance as you would expect: so I suspect the author was not told this. It’s a huge piece of context and lore for the Banished and Brutes.
If it did happen a few days before Infinite then that becomes confusing. Why would Cortana wait to subdue Doisac? Had Atriox return changed things? Like that alters the context significantly. For example if he took Doisac over and went full Helghast on the planet killing anybody who disagreed with his rule or was Doisac a fully compliant planet Cortana destroyed to spite one man. So I think the simpler explanation is the correct one that this is her demanding Doisac submit like Earth.
It would also explain why the Brutes have the conspiracy theory that humanity was behind Cortana. Why destroy their world when humanity lost one city and Sanghelios as well? But if they were openly rebelling because of a Atriox and he was ruler of the planet that does shift the blame more onto him.
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I think he went there after the destruction of doisac. He could have found mendicant bias. His ship could have been upgraded with forerunner technology and thats why he couldn’t go back the same why.
The issue is he knows things he shouldn’t know oh the ark i know where that is. There’s a portal on Reach that can be activated to return Atriox back. Finding Zeta and knowing of the endless the species who has been marketed as lacking in intelligence up to now is just finding things? And Atriox’s forerunner piece to awaken the endless where did he get that from did the Harbinger give it to him as a last resort or?
Mendicat Bias is supposed to be on the Ark and Offensive Bias on Halo Zeta, so who the first mystere is to know who helped Atriox to go on the Ark ?