Before the release of h5, it was heavily debeted were whether Cortana would actually return. The opposition claimed that she wouldn’t because Frank said so, and since he “doesn’t” lie, most took it as truth. Yet h5 showed her, not as a ghost, but as the digital self, though she also took physical form as well. I too was hoping for her return though the way she came back still has me a bit shocked. She isn’t bad, but at the same time she isn’t good either. She is trying to create a better future at the cost of lot of life’s and freedom. The Master chief saw it as cortana trying to do what halsey did to them by kidnapping and making them spartans. What do the rest of you think of her return? Was it a good way to do it or not? Will these change cause people to drop halo like some people claimed? And what can we expect to happens to her and the chief, will they try to kill off one another or will the chief try to save her/ bring her back to her senses.
Not sure I like her as a villain, hopefully she sees the light again in Halo 6, I did however LOVE the creepy legendary ending with the Halo lighting up blue as she hummed a tune
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> Not sure I like her as a villain, hopefully she sees the light again in Halo 6, I did however LOVE the creepy legendary ending with the Halo lighting up blue as she hummed a tune
Didn’t the humming sound like the noise from when we unlocked the three locks with blue team. I think it’s a signal that Spartans use to signal a friendly all clear sign. I think it went like " olly olly oxen free"
Before I played the game, I honestly thought Cortana would just appear in visions or flashbacks. Then I played it and boy was I surprised. I think the idea of Cortana being an antagonist is exciting. I’m eager to see where 343 takes things in Halo 6. Not too sure how things will go between Chief and Cortana though.
I was sad but I liked the idea of her as a villain.
343: Yeah you want her back? Okay you can have her back, but not the way you would think^^
I`m curious what will happen
This was planned for the first Halo game as an alternate path. I guess 343 decided to take a page from Bungie’s book.
I hope we get to kill her >:)
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> Not sure I like her as a villain, hopefully she sees the light again in Halo 6, I did however LOVE the creepy legendary ending with the Halo lighting up blue as she hummed a tune
I still don’t see her as necessarily a “villain” but definitely an antagonist like Reaper put it. It’s interesting. I’m still unsure if I liked it. I can kind of see the whole Reclaimer aspect, and it’s definitely a “woah” moment. It just didn’t deliver that plot twist in a believable manner. It felt more like a mention or a hand off.
The whole story arc just felt like it was a bridge to the next thing…like a friend put it, “a decent DLC” as opposed to a whole standalone story. I feel like I got more out of Halo: Escalations than I did with Halo 5. The Locke vs. Chief had one good scene instead of spanning the whole game as I thought.
Now if we’re talking gameplay alone… Man what a blast. Worth every dime I spent. I just wish the story had a little more “umph”
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> This was planned for the first Halo game as an alternate path. I guess 343 decided to take a page from Bungie’s book.
Oh yeah… I forgot about that. When she gained access in the control room she was supposed to go mad with power right?
To be honest, what happened… I did not see that coming.
I was afraid 343i would make her the bad guy…err… bad girl.
BUT, I had a wish that they’d bring Cortana back and Palmer to survive, Halsey and John to have a reuinion and everything…
But, with Halo: Escalation not being finished yet, we don’t know these details what happened at Absolute Record, how Halsey learned about Cortana being alive and doing… what she started doing with the Domain.
Still, it PAINS me so much to see her acting and being like that. v.v
I see everything, Halo 4, Halo: Escalation, Hunt The Truth and now Halo 5 being a HUUUUUGE build up for the Halo 6… It’s such a shame we’ll have to wait another 3 years to see how the story continies.
I’m still kind of waiting on the explanation of the domain still being around. I thought it had been destroyed back in the Forerunner book trilogy by Greg Bear. Because even as of Halo 4 the domain wasn’t accessible but “caught in a loop” or something. It’s why the Didact didn’t get his peace inside his Cryptum because the domain was gone. So he just stirred in his anger for millennia and the Librarian realized this while she was stuck on Erde-Tyrene. From what I gathered…the Organon and domain were one and the same, so being that the domain was Precursor in origin, it died when the halos fired the first time as it was biotechnology like most Precursor tech. Unless I’m missing something.
I’m a bit conflicted; I always expected her to survive as a result of the Forerunner Domain, as it was mentioned in Spartan Ops, alongside the discovery that human colonists killed by the Didact had been downloaded to Requiem to become Prometheans. It didn’t seem necessary to have her being pulled to Genesis via Slipspace, as the Didact’s ship was presumably connected to the Domain all along anyway, but whatever.
The first problem for me really is that the synthetic vs organics angle feels a bit played out after Mass Effect 3 forced that into being a very poor ending; maybe for people that didn’t play that game it won’t be an issue, but I was hoping for something exploring more of the machinations of the Forerunners like the Librarian and the Didact. It could have been a good opportunity to retroactively make the Didact more interesting, as he felt very underdeveloped in Halo 4 itself (some of the extras around the game flesh him out a bit, but not much). The idea that the Forerunners always intended for AIs to take over from them is interesting, but it just felt very sudden and underdeveloped without a proper Forerunner enemy leading us towards it.
More importantly, Cortana’s transition from stalwart ally to wannabe benevolent dictator likewise feels sudden. I know she’s been on Genesis for a while (a year?) but I would have expected her to be more conflicted about the lives lost to the Guardians, or the fact that John is so opposed to her goals. The interplay between the Chief and Cortana in Halo 4 is my favourite story in the series (while the rest of Halo 4 was a bit meh), but Halo 5’s exchanges didn’t have the same impact. I had hoped to see her become more desperate to convince John, or start doubting herself more and more only for the Eternal Warden to manipulate her. Instead it just seems that she’s doing it because that was the Forerunner’s plan, as the Warden just let her into the Domain and swore allegiance to her, which just doesn’t feel like it fits her character to me. She should be more than aware that enforced peace is no true peace at all, and will never truly work.
There’s also this sudden apparent disgruntled view of how humanity treats AIs; she’s never seemed to have a problem with what she is before, and John has done everything in his power to save her (which is what made Halo 4’s rampancy arc so strong), but suddenly she’s championing AI rights? Besides which, if this was the Forerunner’s plan, then why doesn’t Exuberant Witness see Cortana as the Reclaimer? It makes little sense for Exuberant Witness to be opposed to Cortana when she isn’t threatening Genesis, and is simply using its link to the Domain for its intended purpose. Perhaps this could be a hint that that’s not what the Forerunners wanted at all, but it feels like a lot of questions are raised without answers, and it’s not clear that Halo 6 will answer any of them.
I also found it weird that we never actually saw a Guardian doing anything; they do damage as they jump to Slipspace, but Cortana gathers them all up at Genesis where they continue to do nothing. There was seemingly no purpose in bringing them there at all; I would have expected to have at least seen one of them doing something during the campaign, rather than just briefly at the end.
I dunno, I suppose making Cortana the enemy makes for a bit of a plot twist, but it’d have been more believable if some Forerunner AI had been summoning the Guardians, and Cortana took control of some herself to try to stop it, only to fail in the end (leading into the same setup for Halo 6 all the same). Either that or have her joining forces with other AIs thinking their reasons to be just, only for the Chief to convince her otherwise.
Having her be the architect of something that seems so sudden and out of character just gives an odd feeling to an otherwise great campaign, which could have been just as good without making Cortana semi-evil.
cortana as enemy is a shame!!! she sacrifice her self for chief, and now back from the dead to control the universe? really?? it’s a shame! she fight for earth for more than a decade as well as chief. she fight directly to the Gravemind! 343 kill her and now they transform her in the enemy??
what they want to do ?! they want chief kill her!!! 343 ruin forever the story of halo!!
Making Cortana the villain is just wrong, but trying to replace Master Chief and Cortana with Lock and that spark at the end left a really bad taste in my mouth. 343 (named after a machine that wanted to destroy all life). now with windows 10 out everyone has a want-to-be dictator on there electronic device way to go Microsoft.
I think it’s awesome. As an A.I. she is built with maximum efficiency in mind, but she doesn’t have the intangible human desire for freedom. She wants to minimze death and crime but doesn’t realize the cost of her new guardian policed universe. Great dynamic!
Her regime will have interesting story possibilities, but you could effectively replace Cortana with a digitized Didact and everything would still make just as much, if not more, sense in the grand scheme of things. In fact I’m partly convinced that was the intended direction before 343 decided to make Cortana a villain. Really ruins Halo 4’s ending and they did a pretty poor job of just explaining how she got to where she is.
I love the direction they took with Cortana! She’s the perfect antagonist because she’s not a villain, she’s just looking at the greater good (and getting a little revenge against the UNSC along the way). Having Cortana as the primary antagonist will be the greatest thing Halo ha ever done, especially since it still fits completely with her character
I’m interested in the story they’re telling with her, but Halo 6 will decide whether I like her as a villain or not.
Cortana being the antagonist was perfect in my opinion, I really hope she doesn’t back track in the next installment. Full on Villian is what I would like to see in the next one.
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> Before the release of h5, it was heavily debeted were whether Cortana would actually return. The opposition claimed that she wouldn’t because Frank said so, and since he “doesn’t” lie, most took it as truth. Yet h5 showed her, not as a ghost, but as the digital self, though she also took physical form as well. I too was hoping for her return though the way she came back still has me a bit shocked. She isn’t bad, but at the same time she isn’t good either. She is trying to create a better future at the cost of lot of life’s and freedom. The Master chief saw it as cortana trying to do what halsey did to them by kidnapping and making them spartans. What do the rest of you think of her return? Was it a good way to do it or not? Will these change cause people to drop halo like some people claimed? And what can we expect to happens to her and the chief, will they try to kill off one another or will the chief try to save her/ bring her back to her senses.
physically she looks too much like meghan fox for my taste. aside from that, it wasnt a shocker to me to see her present or as a villian. personally…eh thats my thoughts on it…just eh