Dear 343, you know that the halo community is 50% pro classic gameplay and 50% pro modern gameplay. So why don’t split the game in two big areas, each one with the same playlists?
For example, team slayer in “modern” with abilities, ecc and team slayer in “classic” similar to Halo 2 gameplay, with the original H2 BR, some old map, ecc.? HCS tournaments could have two different variants also…
In this way all people will be funny!
Or just not split the population at all. Keep it classic us classic fans have been waiting forever for a pure halo game
Yes, all people will be funny!
Seriously though, they should put that in. Permanent playlists with classic and permanent with abilities. I agree.
That would also require two sets of maps, because the same maps won’t work well with two drastically different types of gameplay. Between that and splitting the population, I’d rather have them commit to one type of gameplay. I’d prefer classic, but I’d rather have them go completely the Halo 5 way than try to compromise between the two. As far as I’m concerned, giving a good experience to half of the community is better than giving a mediocre experience for everyone, regardless of whether I’m the one getting the short end of the stick or not.
I feel like that would be a best case scenario, but I believe it won’t happen. It’s too much to work on. Imagine having to work on two different gameplay styles with their own unique maps and balance issues. I believe we will see a classic movement system with the only spartan ability being thruster pack. If campaign and multiplayer are very separated, I would also think the campaign would have sprint.
Wouldn’t work at all. Would need special maps for each, it would basically be 2 games.
Honestly there are more people wanting classic gameplay, at least from what I’ve seen here and on other forums.
Im not sure it’s 50 50 exactly. I feel like more want classic gameplay, some want spartan abilities, and some are in the middle wanting maybe some abilities like thrusting to stay. As for myself I think classic should return I think halo should be unique again by going by to its classic iconic style of gameplay and not trying to be like other games with sprinting and clambering and stuff like that.
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> Or just not split the population at all. Keep it classic us classic fans have been waiting forever for a pure halo game
Speak for yourself not others. I’ve been Playing since Halo CE and I don’t want them To just revert to Halo 2/3. I want them to expand on what was done in halo 5. You want to play classic Halo it still exists, so let halo evolve.
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I honestly don’t understand why people seperate this into “classic” and “modern” gameplay.
That “outdated classic” Movement is a proven formular in nearly every FPS Shooter (I’m refering to boots on the ground), while this advanced mobility thing was a short-living Trend for 3-4 years (in which the most games weren’t well recieved anyways)
And to your question: Classic Movement and Advanced Mobility won’t work in one game. You wouldn’t have a balanced game because of the sandbox. Fayvn explains it better, because this topic was brought up for Halo 5 too: Classic Playlists in Halo 5 Won't be Good! - YouTube
I personally like more the “modern” gameplay. I’ve been playing since Halo CE, so yeah I know my stuff. But as someone else said in this thread, let the games evolve. I know it´s a long shot to have the game “split” but it would be awesome if it could. Just because I like more the modern gameplay doesn´t mean that IT HAS to be like. Some people like classic, some like modern. They would just need to find the balance between both and everybody is happy with that. But like I said… It´s a long shot…
I’ve gotten used to the new style too and I hope there will be dedicated ranked playlists for everyone. It’s a shame that halo’s direction and “innovations” splintered everyone on what the gameplay should be.
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> Dear 343, you know that the halo community is 50% pro classic gameplay and 50% pro modern gameplay. So why don’t split the game in two big areas, each one with the same playlists?
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> For example, team slayer in “modern” with abilities, ecc and team slayer in “classic” similar to Halo 2 gameplay, with the original H2 BR, some old map, ecc.? HCS tournaments could have two different variants also…
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> In this way all people will be funny!
My question to you is why split the community at all? Why keep the modern crap that halo 5 brought with it when it wasn’t well received?
Ill be honest with yah. While some of the new modern stuff halo 5 brought with it I enjoyed. There was things I hated about it as well. The things I enjoyed from halo 5 were definatly some of the spartan abilities. I did enjoy the spartan charge and the ground pound. I enjoyed being able to boost and semi jetpack around the map. Those abilities did bring some kewl and new interesting gameplay. The one spartan ability I hated the most was smartlink. To me smartlink wasn’t even a smart link. When I heard of smart link I thought it would be an ability that gives a temporary aim assist or a boost to aiming. However it turned out to be purly ADS. To me it was a total lie on what smart link was. And it brought with it a COD style gameplay. I can honestly say at this point Smartlink aka ADS can go. Bring back the classic halo gameplay that existed in Halo CE - 3. As for sprint I never minded sprint sprint to me wasn’t bad. But agian it never existed int he early days of halo. And honestly id be ok without sprint.
TLDR: bring back the classic halo gameplay and classic gameplay mechanics
Maybe there could be split playlist for one Halo game and time would tell which style would be the one that stays populated and therefore would be more likely to appear in the future.
At least it would be settled that how the players really want to play Halo.
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> Maybe there could be split playlist for one Halo game and time would tell which style would be the one that stays populated and therefore would be more likely to appear in the future.
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Agian why have a split at all. I understand that theres folks who enjoy the new style of gameplay halo 5 brought. But that never has truly been halo. Across these very forums on halo waypoint. Ive scene mention of how halo 2-3 had the best multilayer and were the best installments of the halo franchise. And the new mechanics never existed in those mechanics. So agian why keep a split amongst the community. When halo can go back to being halo. And return to its classic gameplay mechanics. Id much rather see that then continue having to use ADS or thrust all over the map to attempt to escape only to use boosters into someones bullet :P. Also it was a much more challenging game back then. Basic but was challenging.
I agree they need to have split playlists for both sides. I love both versions of the Halo games.
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Halo 4 and 5 were not evolution…it’s degeneration
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> Halo 4 and 5 were not evolution…it’s degeneration
Halo 4 was Reach 1.5. Halo 5 however is the Evolution of what bungie was going for and would have gotten to had they continued the series. If you havent’t realize that then your delusional. That being Said I don’t want Halo 5 2.0. I want the next evolution of Halo. That’s the difference between you and I. You want a copy and paste Halo MP. I wont a new and evolved Halo MP just like what ever Halo Game has been from H2 onward.
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> Halo 4 was Reach 1.5. Halo 5 however is the Evolution of what bungie was going for and would have gotten to had they continued the series. If you havent’t realize that then your delusional. That being Said I don’t want Halo 5 2.0. I want the next evolution of Halo. That’s the difference between you and I. You want a copy and paste Halo MP. I wont a new and evolved Halo MP just like what ever Halo Game has been from H2 onward.
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Wolfenstein reboot series and doom both are very similar to the older games with a modern twist. They didn’t throw out the original formula like 4 and 5 did.
I believe that the two styles can coexist.
Simply because at this point if they don’t, the communities won’t coexist.
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> Wolfenstein reboot series and doom both are very similar to the older games with a modern twist. They didn’t throw out the original formula like 4 and 5 did.
Halo 4 and 5 didn’t throw out the original formula. Weapons, grenades, Melee, and on big map vehicles. All of which are in those games. The original formula for both doom and Wolfenstein is shooting enemies in corridors. Both games have that. Most shooter games have that. And yet both games ended up being almost completely different games even those they were practically the same game when they originally came out. They were popular because they are fun games not because they are similar to the originals. Most people that bought these more than likely never played the originals. Its funny that you bring up Doom. It has a Arena Style MP with custom games and map editor that is about as good Has Halo 5s. It came out 7 months after Halo 5 And yet it sits 31 places behind Halo 5 in the top played shooters on Xbox one. Its even behind Halo Reach. In addition to that Arena shooter in general have terrible populations. Quake Champions Came out this year and its peak population was only around 15k. That should tell you how poorly Arena shooters are doing. Halo is an arena shooter.