I herd the ship was missing through out the rest of the human covnenant war but it im sure the ship must be on auto pilot to some sort of UNSC base, and now the war is over and if Infinity could find the forward unto dawn, then some other UNSC ship should be able to find the spirit of fire.
Edited: Besides at the end of halo wars if you beat the game legendary you hear Serina say " Captain wake up, something as happend".
> I herd the ship was missing through out the rest of the human covnenant war but it im sure the ship must be on auto pilot to some sort of UNSC base, and now the war is over and if Infinity could find the forward unto dawn, then some other UNSC ship should be able to find the spirit of fire.
Not necessarily, there are still shipwrecks from say the first world war which still have not been found yet and it has almost been one hundred years since the beginning of the first world war.
Keep in mind this fact about space travel. Stars are very far from one another. The Spirit of Fire lost its ability to use its Slipspace drive meaning they are limited to sub-light speed travel.
To use a close real-world analogy, the sun is about 4.3 light years from the next nearest star, the Alpha Centauri system. This means that if you could travel at the speed of light, it would take 4.3 years to get there from Earth.
If you don’t have access to those speeds, if you were traveling at the top speed of the U.S. space shuttle, it would take about 165,000 years to get from Earth to Alpha Centauri. (To put this number in context, this is a longer time frame than the last firing of the Halo Array that wiped out the Forerunners.)
I’m not sure what the top sub-light speed of the Spirit of Fire actually is, but from the time of Halo Wars to the timeframe of Halo 4, it’s entirely possible that they haven’t even yet escaped the outer fringes of the star system they were in with the Shield World. It would take them thousands of years to get to the next star system, assuming there is anything of interest there.
Essentially, someone would have to go looking for the Spirit of Fire explicitly. The SoF is not going to randomly bump into anyone else.
Hope this gives some perspective of the Spirit of Fire’s fate.
It’s entirely possible they won’t be found. The entire crew is in cryo and you’ve got a Rampant AI at the wheel.
That’s not exactly a recipe for success. Unless of course care taking for the crew is keeping Serina “sane” for lack of a better word.
Doesn’t serena suddenly say “something’s gone wrong” at the end if you beat it on legendary?
Probably meant as an easy in for a Halo Wars 2, but it means whatever happened to them, didn’t seem good.
By now, Serena’s gone rampant and killed everyone. And that’s the end folks.
> I herd the ship was missing through out the rest of the human covnenant war but it im sure the ship must be on auto pilot to some sort of UNSC base, and now the war is over and if Infinity could find the forward unto dawn, then some other UNSC ship should be able to find the spirit of fire.
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> Edited: Besides at the end of halo wars if you beat the game legendary you hear Serina say " Captain wake up, something as happend".
Pretty sure ONI found it, and kept it classified. Maybe because of the flood, or something worse. TSoF was listed as MIA, but then later changed to lost with all hands. Suspecious
my feeling was that the Spirit of Fire was found as signified by the change in status. However, 343 is deciding what to do with the both the characters and the story arch. Its way to good to leave it, to much work and thought went into producing it and since the franchise is still active I suspect at some point this story will continue in some form or other.
Humans appear as forerunner relics on their scanners. Humanity was just given the key that shows them the location of every Forerunner relic out there. Find the one that is different from the others and bam the Spirit of Fire is found.
This is exactly what I was thinking too, M.Storm. Could get really interesting…
> > I herd the ship was missing through out the rest of the human covnenant war but it im sure the ship must be on auto pilot to some sort of UNSC base, and now the war is over and if Infinity could find the forward unto dawn, then some other UNSC ship should be able to find the spirit of fire.
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> > Edited: Besides at the end of halo wars if you beat the game legendary you hear Serina say " Captain wake up, something as happend".
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> Pretty sure ONI found it, and kept it classified. Maybe because of the flood, or something worse. TSoF was listed as MIA, but then later changed to lost with all hands. Suspecious
Why does that mean anything suspicious? If I was the one labeling the states of ships and such or how they were lost, and a ship got lost like the Spirit of Fire did, I’d first label it MIA when there is still the chance of them coming back or that they could be making their way home…and then after a while with no signs or any indication at all that they are coming back or that they survived, changed it to LWAH. I’m curious why you think that suspicious, it makes sense to me…
As for people making comments about rampancy. AIs do just fine while being rampant if they have a task that they constantly need to see to or maintain. Like Julianna, the AI of the Rubble in Cole Protocol, she was quite clearly rampant and well over 7 years old, yet aside from a few odd quirks, like referring to herself as a goddess of sorts, she was just as sane as any other AI…because she had to constantly see to and maintain the Rubble. Serina is in exactly the same position, maintaining and keeping the ship safe while the crew are in cryo-sleep.
> > > I herd the ship was missing through out the rest of the human covnenant war but it im sure the ship must be on auto pilot to some sort of UNSC base, and now the war is over and if Infinity could find the forward unto dawn, then some other UNSC ship should be able to find the spirit of fire.
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> > > Edited: Besides at the end of halo wars if you beat the game legendary you hear Serina say " Captain wake up, something as happend".
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> > Pretty sure ONI found it, and kept it classified. Maybe because of the flood, or something worse. TSoF was listed as MIA, but then later changed to lost with all hands. Suspecious
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> Why does that mean anything suspicious? If I was the one labeling the states of ships and such or how they were lost, and a ship got lost like the Spirit of Fire did, I’d first label it MIA when there is still the chance of them coming back or that they could be making their way home…and then after a while with no signs or any indication at all that they are coming back or that they survived, changed it to LWAH. I’m curious why you think that suspicious, it makes sense to me…
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> As for people making comments about rampancy. AIs do just fine while being rampant if they have a task that they constantly need to see to or maintain. Like Julianna, the AI of the Rubble in Cole Protocol, she was quite clearly rampant and well over 7 years old, yet aside from a few odd quirks, like referring to herself as a goddess of sorts, she was just as sane as any other AI…because she had to constantly see to and maintain the Rubble. Serina is in exactly the same position, maintaining and keeping the ship safe while the crew are in cryo-sleep.
ONI does have a history of listing Spartans as MIA(presumably KIA). Only to find out they were recovered by ONI, and are alive and well.
> By now, Serena’s gone rampant and killed everyone. And that’s the end folks.
Some AI can last longer then 7 years if they have a strong purpose. In the Cole Protocol, an AI lasted for over 10 years because she cared about the colonists and they depended on her.
Unless she went completely dormant as well. All systems shut off. Only to be reactivated in case they are about to collide with something. That way her system is not getting clogged with data.
And the only AI I want to see gain metasentience is Cortana. Then Serana in a distant second. Finally Roland as a waaaay distant third.
> > By now, Serena’s gone rampant and killed everyone. And that’s the end folks.
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> Some AI can last longer then 7 years if they have a strong purpose. In the Cole Protocol, an AI lasted for over 10 years because she cared about the colonists and they depended on her.
Yeah, but its been 30ish years now, and without FTL it’ll be many more before they even reach another star system, if they were aiming for the closest one.
Many ships have likely gone missing over the course of the war with the covies, with it being gone so long, the UNSC likely wrote it off as MIA.
The Spirit of Fire was randomly declared, “Lost With All Hands,” at one point by ONI. Coupled with the fact that Serena says, “Captain, wake up. Something has happened.” means that ONI knows something we do not.
Serena would be way past rampant by now. Something had to have “happened” in the past.
They did find it, but after the horrors ONI found on the ship they decided that it was best to leave it alone so the horrors they found could die out from hunger… or so they tort…
I just want to point out that the Infinity did not intend to find the Forward Unto Dawn. The coordinates to Requiem was found on Installation 03 after they moved the Composer to Ivanoff and they followed it. The Dawn just happened to be floating by the planet at the same time. Yes, they received the beacon Cortana sent out but, they were already enroute to the planet long before they picked it up.
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> This is exactly what I was thinking too, M.Storm. Could get really interesting…
M. Storm?