special units for possible leaders

one of the things i disliked in wars was the choice of special units, why couldnt the arbiter make just elites and why (beside the chopper) did the covey not have a unique veichle… the unsc had a few. so im curious about what people think… i so far only really thought of jul mdamas units (storm elites with storm rifles, lynches that work like gremlins and since jul isnt a great fighter like ripa. so i think like the prophet who gets two sentries, jul should get two promethian knights) god i hope juls in it :smiley:

I think the Arbiter (if Thel 'Vadam) should get Sangheili Rangers. Lasky should have Spartan-IVs, who are powerful but expendable. Admiral Hood should have Spartan-IIs, who are more dangerous than S-IVs but only 3 can be trained at once. Serin Osman should have Delta-6 Spartan-IIIs who can cloak and defeat enemies with stealth. Each leader could also have a unique vehicle, for example the Arbiter could have Seraphs, Lasky could have a type of scout vehicle, Hood could have Vultures and Osman could have ONI Scorpions.

It’s based off the original HW1, so sorry to burst your bubble. Plus Jul Mdama is dead, waste of some character building if you ask me. Along with the fact that Halo 5’s chance at world building and character building went nowhere despite their claims.

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> It’s based off the original HW1, so sorry to burst your bubble. Plus Jul Mdama is dead, waste of some character building if you ask me. Along with the fact that Halo 5’s chance at world building and character building went nowhere despite their claims.

Eh, could be just multiplayer. 3 star Chieftain beats everything though so yeah

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> I think the Arbiter (if Thel 'Vadam) should get Sangheili Rangers. Lasky should have Spartan-IVs, who are powerful but expendable. Admiral Hood should have Spartan-IIs, who are more dangerous than S-IVs but only 3 can be trained at once. Serin Osman should have Delta-6 Spartan-IIIs who can cloak and defeat enemies with stealth. Each leader could also have a unique vehicle, for example the Arbiter could have Seraphs, Lasky could have a type of scout vehicle, Hood could have Vultures and Osman could have ONI Scorpions.

Those are some good ideas!

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> It’s based off the original HW1, so sorry to burst your bubble. Plus Jul Mdama is dead, waste of some character building if you ask me. Along with the fact that Halo 5’s chance at world building and character building went nowhere despite their claims.

could be a prequel

I love the idea, but we literally know next to nothing. So all speculation for now. Maybe they’ll listen to your idea. They have to announce something at E3 this year. There’s no way they can’t.

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> I love the idea, but we literally know next to nothing. So all speculation for now. Maybe they’ll listen to your idea. They have to announce something at E3 this year. There’s no way they can’t.

if they dont show any then ill be extremely… worried

If Halo Wars 2 use special characters as faction leaders as they did in Halo Wars 1, they could easily do something similar to Command & Conquer 3: Kane’s Wrath. In the game they have a main faction, let’s say NOD and 2 subfactions for each faction. NOD, Black Hand and Marked of Kane. All these are NOD factions but each of them have a number of their own unique units, upgrades and powers. Halo Wars 2 can easily have something similar to this and personally i would really like it. If they don’t have enough time and money to do this, they could do this for an expansion if HW 2 will get one.

An example of how it could be. In HW 2 there are 3 Covenant factions. One of the factions have a Brute leader like in HW 1 and like in HW 1 they have no Elites but they need to go further. The Brute faction would have several unique units not just the Chopper and Brutes. They would have unique upgrades and more unique units (Vehicles and soldiers) and unique buildings like turrets and such and if they ditch Heroes or at least remove their powers and add powers similar to UNSC in HW 1 or how it is in C&C they could get unique powers as well. Personally i would like if they removed hero powers because HW 2 should not be too similar to HW 1. It needs to be far more than HW 1 is and expand. It needs to be different, it needs to be our first real Halo RTS game. If you’re thinking that Covenant need hero powers then you expect HW 2 to be HW 1.5.

I love HW. I have spent at least 500 hours and more but there is no way i can say HW is a good RTS. Ok so back to topic. This may sound like a lot to do. Like giving every faction 2 subfactions and a number of unique units is work, time and money but it is definitely possible and to clarify. Every single unit do not have to be unique. They can have a couple of faction wide units but they should make enough unique units, powers, upgrades and maybe turrets to make subfactions and even the main different enough in the way that certain strategies are stronger depending on faction & subfaction. Example. One faction/subfaction is stronger at defensive tactics and another could be stronger using infantry tactics and another could be stronger with vehicles, air etc and another could be stronger at rush tactics and so on. Obviously every faction/subfaction should be able to do every strategy/tactic like all the other but each one should be stronger at one point than the other.

Not so in a way it would make only one viable strategy but it should be obvious what kind of advantages they have and the player would have to choose what to do depending on his/her situation and info the player has gathered from its enemy. If you are playing a faction with infantry as its strong point and the enemy produce anti-infantry units. The player could just go non infantry even though its factions strong point is infantry and end up victorious because the opponent thought the player would go all infantry. Since the factions strong points is infantry, it should still be a viable tactic even if the opponent goes with a lot vehicles. It all depends on the situation and the strategies both players do but i must say, C&C 3: Kane’s Wrath has done the best with this so far.

I hope to see HW 2 with such uniqueness (If that is a word) we all should get. A Halo RTS has so frigging much potential and i hope CA and 343i use what they have to it’s full potential.

It would be cool if each leader has a special unit of each type, vehicle, infantry, and air. So like in Halo Wars with Cutter, you would have the ODST’s, upgraded vultures, and then lets say upgraded Cobra’s. Now, if they were to implement this in the new Halo Wars, you would have to have more unit options to make it more of a variety.

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> > I think the Arbiter (if Thel 'Vadam) should get Sangheili Rangers. Lasky should have Spartan-IVs, who are powerful but expendable. Admiral Hood should have Spartan-IIs, who are more dangerous than S-IVs but only 3 can be trained at once. Serin Osman should have Delta-6 Spartan-IIIs who can cloak and defeat enemies with stealth. Each leader could also have a unique vehicle, for example the Arbiter could have Seraphs, Lasky could have a type of scout vehicle, Hood could have Vultures and Osman could have ONI Scorpions.
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I agree, ONI scorpions would be cool to use. A very good upgrade idea that would give a Grizzly a run for its money

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> > > I think the Arbiter (if Thel 'Vadam) should get Sangheili Rangers. Lasky should have Spartan-IVs, who are powerful but expendable. Admiral Hood should have Spartan-IIs, who are more dangerous than S-IVs but only 3 can be trained at once. Serin Osman should have Delta-6 Spartan-IIIs who can cloak and defeat enemies with stealth. Each leader could also have a unique vehicle, for example the Arbiter could have Seraphs, Lasky could have a type of scout vehicle, Hood could have Vultures and Osman could have ONI Scorpions.
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Oni scorpion vs a grizzly that would be awesome

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> > It’s based off the original HW1, so sorry to burst your bubble. Plus Jul Mdama is dead, waste of some character building if you ask me. Along with the fact that Halo 5’s chance at world building and character building went nowhere despite their claims.
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Can’t be, brutes are confirmed, if they went back farther there would be no covies. Thus it’s in the future.

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That is true, they could do whatever they want with multiplayer.

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> > > It’s based off the original HW1, so sorry to burst your bubble. Plus Jul Mdama is dead, waste of some character building if you ask me. Along with the fact that Halo 5’s chance at world building and character building went nowhere despite their claims.
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If you’re saying it’s a sequel to HW1, that’s a possibility, but the trailer features Spartan Red Team, the same 3 Spartans in the campaign for HW1, so I feel it’s highly unlikely unless it’s after the Spirit of Fire gets located or something

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im talking a prequel before juls death

also no grizzlies -_- or hawkz… god never again