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So… out of those 3 snippets, only one showed a spawn kill. Which sucks, but yeah, it was just one.
Not maybe a spawn kill, but how quick did it take to just fight right off the spawn. Is it battlefield?
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> So basically, what I think there should be changed, because most of the time, if not spawned DIRECTLY NEXT TO MY ENEMIES I get spawned nowhere my allies, but on some other part of the map where nobody is and I need to find everyone, I think it should be changed that you spawn close to your allies, but at some safe distance (But nowhere closer to the enemies) so there won’t be those bullshitery that you just 1v1’d some guy, won and then his mate just spawned and you’re dead. What do you think guys? Am I the only person that has that problem?
So which do you want? To be spawn next to your allies (who are probably near enemies or actively engaged), or to spawn at a safe distance and not get spawn killed? You can’t have both.
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> Not maybe a spawn kill, but how quick did it take to just fight right off the spawn. Is it battlefield?
And yet you are complaining about spawning too far away? Which do you want?
lol you’re not bad. Not even close. Look at my stats if you want to see bad.
OT: I agree. The spawn system is beyond terrible to the point that 2-3 spawns in a row are instant death. 343i has been slowly improving it.
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> > So basically, what I think there should be changed, because most of the time, if not spawned DIRECTLY NEXT TO MY ENEMIES I get spawned nowhere my allies, but on some other part of the map where nobody is and I need to find everyone, I think it should be changed that you spawn close to your allies, but at some safe distance (But nowhere closer to the enemies) so there won’t be those bullshitery that you just 1v1’d some guy, won and then his mate just spawned and you’re dead. What do you think guys? Am I the only person that has that problem?
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> So which do you want? To be spawn next to your allies (who are probably near enemies or actively engaged), or to spawn at a safe distance and not get spawn killed? You can’t have both.
You actually can have both.
It’s called ‘spawn AI’ for a reason. Algorithms that explore the available spawn points, distance from teammates and enemies, and prioritize player safety, proximity to teammates, proximity to combat, etc.
Halo 5 has some of the worst spawn AI I’ve seen in any game since… yeesh, probably going on 10 years. Just utterly amateur hour garbage.
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> > > So basically, what I think there should be changed, because most of the time, if not spawned DIRECTLY NEXT TO MY ENEMIES I get spawned nowhere my allies, but on some other part of the map where nobody is and I need to find everyone, I think it should be changed that you spawn close to your allies, but at some safe distance (But nowhere closer to the enemies) so there won’t be those bullshitery that you just 1v1’d some guy, won and then his mate just spawned and you’re dead. What do you think guys? Am I the only person that has that problem?
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> > So which do you want? To be spawn next to your allies (who are probably near enemies or actively engaged), or to spawn at a safe distance and not get spawn killed? You can’t have both.
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> It’s called ‘spawn AI’ for a reason. Algorithms that explore the available spawn points, distance from teammates and enemies, and prioritize player safety, proximity to teammates, proximity to combat, etc.
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> Halo 5 has some of the worst spawn AI I’ve seen in any game since… yeesh, probably going on 10 years. Just utterly amateur hour garbage.
"Insert any FPS title here" has some of the worst spawn AI I’ve seen in any game since… yeesh, probably going on 10 years. Just utterly amateur hour garbage.
With the way these maps are designed, there isn’t always going to be a completely safe area to spawn in. In OP’s posted example, he actually spawns well away from his enemies, but just happens to be in the line of sight of an enemy with a sniper rifle (beam rifle). The spawn system can’t account for that. It was fluke chance. The enemy just happened to be looking in his direction as he (the OP) spawned and with a beam rifle.
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> > > > So basically, what I think there should be changed, because most of the time, if not spawned DIRECTLY NEXT TO MY ENEMIES I get spawned nowhere my allies, but on some other part of the map where nobody is and I need to find everyone, I think it should be changed that you spawn close to your allies, but at some safe distance (But nowhere closer to the enemies) so there won’t be those bullshitery that you just 1v1’d some guy, won and then his mate just spawned and you’re dead. What do you think guys? Am I the only person that has that problem?
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> > > So which do you want? To be spawn next to your allies (who are probably near enemies or actively engaged), or to spawn at a safe distance and not get spawn killed? You can’t have both.
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> > It’s called ‘spawn AI’ for a reason. Algorithms that explore the available spawn points, distance from teammates and enemies, and prioritize player safety, proximity to teammates, proximity to combat, etc.
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> > Halo 5 has some of the worst spawn AI I’ve seen in any game since… yeesh, probably going on 10 years. Just utterly amateur hour garbage.
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> “Insert any FPS title here” has some of the worst spawn AI I’ve seen in any game since… yeesh, probably going on 10 years. Just utterly amateur hour garbage.
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> With the way these maps are designed, there isn’t always going to be a completely safe area to spawn in. In OP’s posted example, he actually spawns well away from his enemies, but just happens to be in the line of sight of an enemy with a sniper rifle (beam rifle). The spawn system can’t account for that. It was fluke chance. The enemy just happened to be looking in his direction as he (the OP) spawned and with a beam rifle.
Well, on a barely-related note, it wouldn’t kill 343i to make some larger 4v4 maps.
the rudy I see your point, I think I will just close this thread before it might be turnt into a sheetstorm.
You are a good person.