“My Spartans were all that stood between humanity and extinction”
Am I the only one who’s getting tired of Spartans being these almost godlike beings? I would like to base my argument on Spartans Ops and what I’ve seen from Spartan Assault. Covenant are invading and not 1000 Marines with the help of tanks and navy can stop them but three guys in metal suits with assault rifles can?
I’m just trying to look at Halo lore as a serious story. I never saw this problem until I played/watched Spartan Ops. Spartans killing prometheans with one bullet while marines empty their mags at the -Yoink!- things and it doesn’t have any effect on them? If Spartans are portrayed as unstoppable killing machines it takes all the tension away from them being in a firefight.
That’s why I prefer Lasky’s story and Halo 3 ODST. Feels more believable.
Well, it made sense with the spartan 2s, as they were raised to kill at age 5. Their armour has high tech shield technology, that may be more advanced than the Covenant Shielding tech. Besides,Spartans never die.
No, we don’t care. Euphorically massacring an endless horde of funny looking robots is more enjoyable than actual soldier work. Which in reality is just marching around with half a trailer worth of kit from one point to the other, until you step on a landmine and spend the rest of your days with no legs.
How is ODST more believable. Yes you may not be the bullet sponge like Master Chief and the other Spartans, but there are hundreds of med packs just laying around to heal you. Seems just as far fetched, just in a different way. But I did enjoy the more difficult time on legendary since you couldn’t take the beating you were accustomed to in previous Halos.
The Spartans are in no way infallible, there are four Spartan-II’s left, the most LEGENDARY Spartans are down to four. The III’s were glorified suicide soldiers, and we have multiple IV’s being killed in SpOps. Sure they market the Spartans as these almighty titans of war, but they have to, it makes it interesting.
Some spartan-IVs are very good. Others, well they could be better.
Spartans should feel powerful, agile, fast.
343i has done a fairly good job with the Spartan feeling. There are improvements to be made but 343i made the best Spartan experience so far. I give them that.
ODST was more unrealistic in the sense that, as Spartans we can do that and more but as ODSTs, we wouldn’t be able to do what we do in game.
> You mean 5 Spartan-IIs?
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> Some spartan-IVs are very good. Others, well they could be better.
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> Spartans should feel powerful, agile, fast.
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> 343i has done a fairly good job with the Spartan feeling. There are improvements to be made but 343i made the best Spartan experience so far. I give them that.
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> <mark>ODST was more unrealistic in the sense that, as Spartans we can do that and more but as ODSTs, we wouldn’t be able to do what we do in game</mark>.
Also takes away the point of the shields. I always viewed giving soldier personal shields as the “edge” or push humanity needed to fight back the Covenant. Makes sense to give shielded suits to the best and brightest as you want to lower the risk of losing them.
Part of the reason why I hated how they took away health for Halo 2, 3 and 4. Takes away the tension if robots can heal you instantly. This became a running joke in the Metal Gear Solid series.
> “My Spartans were all that stood between humanity and extinction”
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> Am I the only one who’s getting tired of Spartans being these almost godlike beings? I would like to base my argument on Spartans Ops and what I’ve seen from Spartan Assault. Covenant are invading and not 1000 Marines with the help of tanks and navy can stop them but three guys in metal suits with assault rifles can?
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> I’m just trying to look at Halo lore as a serious story. I never saw this problem until I played/watched Spartan Ops. Spartans killing prometheans with one bullet while marines empty their mags at the -Yoink!- things and it doesn’t have any effect on them? If Spartans are portrayed as unstoppable killing machines it takes all the tension away from them being in a firefight.
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> That’s why I prefer Lasky’s story and Halo 3 ODST. Feels more believable.
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> What do you guys think? Do you even care?
ODST is less realistic. The first hit from a Plasma Pistol would cause severe burns and shock, ultimately leading to a quick death, yet the ODSTs take a deep breath and shrug it off.
> You mean 5 Spartan-IIs?
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> Some spartan-IVs are very good. Others, well they could be better.
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> Spartans should feel powerful, agile, fast.
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> 343i has done a fairly good job with the Spartan feeling. There are improvements to be made but 343i made the best Spartan experience so far. I give them that.
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> ODST was more unrealistic in the sense that, as Spartans we can do that and more but as ODSTs, we wouldn’t be able to do what we do in game.
Yeah sorry, I had Blue team without Chief on my mind. Can’t believe I forgot to count chief.
> > “My Spartans were all that stood between humanity and extinction”
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> > Am I the only one who’s getting tired of Spartans being these almost godlike beings? I would like to base my argument on Spartans Ops and what I’ve seen from Spartan Assault. Covenant are invading and not 1000 Marines with the help of tanks and navy can stop them but three guys in metal suits with assault rifles can?
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> > I’m just trying to look at Halo lore as a serious story. I never saw this problem until I played/watched Spartan Ops. Spartans killing prometheans with one bullet while marines empty their mags at the -Yoink!- things and it doesn’t have any effect on them? If Spartans are portrayed as unstoppable killing machines it takes all the tension away from them being in a firefight.
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> > That’s why I prefer Lasky’s story and Halo 3 ODST. Feels more believable.
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> > What do you guys think? Do you even care?
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> ODST is less realistic. The first hit from a Plasma Pistol would cause severe burns and shock, ultimately leading to a quick death, yet the ODSTs take a deep breath and shrug it off.
If it was like that, ODST would be impossible on Legendary.
Are you kidding me? The Spartans are strong, yes, but when your going up against aliens who are FAR more stronger I don’t think you’d care, but even then the Spartan-IIs were being butchered left, right and center
If we were to really be Spartans, we’d be playing the campaign in constant Slo-Mo Mode from F.E.A.R. with the Elites and Prometheans being analogies of us being able to move at normal speeds compared to the lesser beings.
Movement would feel almost like the micro-gravity rooms of Reach (which really should feel like underwater due to the dense nature of the liquid… Opposed to the near 0 resistance of a near vacuum in micro-G’s… But I digress ;), but not because we’re sluggish, because Spartans think more than twice as fast as regular humans… They exist in a slo-mo world as is.
SIV’s, they make dumber decisions quicker than any Spartan before them. SII’s and SIII’s are trained very well and only make bad decisions when it suits the plot devices (Solomon lured into an obvious trap, the Headhunters not using their VISR before encountering the unseen, etc).
Yes, the spartan II’s were so overpowered and godlike that there are only 5(I think) left…
Spartan III’s and IV’s really aren’t treated with the same “glory” that the spartan II’s were given. III’s were just suicide soldiers, and IV’s really aren’t portrayed as anything too powerful.
Besides the chief and his team and Naomi there is red team from sof,Maria,grey team,fhajad and 2 others in ONI and I think one more so there is at least 9 alive and at most 15
