Spartans? Not really, is it?

Spartan IVs sound so much like regular soldiers due to their call outs, personalities and of course, inferiority. They announce power weapons taken or enemies eliminated like they’re just regular Marines or something.

Since it’s 2557 they’ve let Spartans keep personalities and stuff, but at least give them better armor will ya? It’s not like everyone needs DLC to get better armor performance in battle right? Besides, it’s already 4 years after the war and you’re still telling me Master Chief’s armor and performance is way better than these new Spartans with supposedly better technology and worse performance? What is this? It just makes no sense that the UNSC wants to save up so much money for what, I don’t really care! If they are willing to spend so much money to get a warship, might as well do the same for Spartans!

> 2533274941937791;1:
> Spartan IVs sound so much like regular soldiers due to their call outs, personalities and of course, inferiority. They announce power weapons taken or enemies eliminated like they’re just regular Marines or something.

So…you’re complaining that they’re acting like an elite, coordinated team of professional soldiers.

Okay then.

> 2533274941937791;1:
> Since it’s 2557 they’ve let Spartans keep personalities and stuff, but at least give them better armor will ya? It’s not like everyone needs DLC to get better armor performance in battle right? Besides, it’s already 4 years after the war and you’re still telling me Master Chief’s armor and performance is way better than these new Spartans with supposedly better technology and worse performance? What is this? It just makes no sense that the UNSC wants to save up so much money for what, I don’t really care! If they are willing to spend so much money to get a warship, might as well do the same for Spartans!

I’m not sure what you’re arguing here. Gen2 doesn’t really seem to be cutting corners. Even blue team’s upgraded to it for halo 5.

They also started out as regular soldiers… Unlike the II’s and III’s they probably don’t have the same… brotherhood and kinship as them. So the callouts and stuff make sense.

> 2533274941937791;1:
> What is this? It just makes no sense that the UNSC wants to save up so much money for what, I don’t really care! If they are willing to spend so much money to get a warship, might as well do the same for Spartans!

I have no idea what OP is trying to convey here. So confused. If you don’t care, then don’t complain? Problem solved. Also, the “warship” cost relating to Spartan cost? How are they correlated?

I don’t get why people are so threatened by SIVs. I’ve been reading through all of the novels, and SIIs have lots of personality. If anything, I’d be angry about the SIIIs. While we know they are inferior, I hated how much they made them sound better in Ghosts of Onyx. It felt like every other sentence was “Oh, SIIIs can kill 50 Elites in 10 minutes!” or something. And then it was conflicting because every few chapters there was “Oh, SIIIs are way better, but they all died! And at the end, they sucked!” or “SIIIs are better, but they jump the gun and almost get a SII killed!”.

Spartan IV’s volunteered to become spartan’s. They essentially ARE regular soldiers, who grew up with regular childhoods and grew into who they are today (or in 540 years from now). Their augmentations are much less than that of Spartan II’s as well.

II’s were kidnapped and thrown into the augmentations
III’s weren’t Halsey’s Spartans and they were selected, but not as children
IV’s are volunteers from all kinds of branches, they used to be normal soldiers, who trained, passed academy and went into augmentations

> 2533274881937413;8:
> II’s were kidnapped and thrown into the augmentations
> III’s weren’t Halsey’s Spartans and they were selected, but not as children
> IV’s are volunteers from all kinds of branches, they used to be normal soldiers, who trained, passed academy and went into augmentations

III’s WERE selected as children. They were volunteers taken from orphanages of planets that had been glassed, kids that had lost their families. They began their training at 6, and would fight at around 12 on suicide missions.

> 2533274973030620;6:
> “Oh, SIIIs are way better, but they all died! And at the end, they sucked!”

They only all died because their missions were much more perilous than the S-II’s, its exactly why they existed.

S-II’s mostly just slowed down covie advances so people could escape. S-III’s went attacking the covie strongholds themselves.

That said, spartan power levels tend to be all over the place, even with the same author.

Blue team and Chief armor have been updated to Gen 2 armors like Spartan IVs, so Spartan IVs have new armors, but also Blue team and Chief have.

The original post had confused me, but luckily the varying comments have cleared some things up.

> 2533274941937791;1:
> Spartan IVs sound so much like regular soldiers due to their call outs, personalities and of course, inferiority. They announce power weapons taken or enemies eliminated like they’re just regular Marines or something.
>
> Since it’s 2557 they’ve let Spartans keep personalities and stuff, but at least give them better armor will ya? It’s not like everyone needs DLC to get better armor performance in battle right? Besides, it’s already 4 years after the war and you’re still telling me Master Chief’s armor and performance is way better than these new Spartans with supposedly better technology and worse performance? What is this? It just makes no sense that the UNSC wants to save up so much money for what, I don’t really care! If they are willing to spend so much money to get a warship, might as well do the same for Spartans!

Lore wise? They’re mass producing Spartans as quickly as they can so they can have a capable standing army that is skilled (and enhanced) enough to take on the another potential more organized Covenant.

The Spartan IVs are selected from a candidate pool of VERY skilled military personel. It’s possible to apply to the Spartan program, but it’s no gurantee of getting in. The reason why they sound like regular soldiers is because they are regular soldiers (albeit VERY skilled ones). Some of them may be close to or on par with the Spartan IIs, but for the most part the Spartan IIs will be far more combat effectinve because they were taught and indoctrinated in their early developmental years. Basically hard wired combat skills in the same way walking and running are hard wired for us.

You have to remember that in almost every engagement the Covenant crushed the humans. Humans only ever won with a 3 to 1 advantage. Both ground and space combat.

So yeah, mass production of Spartan IV’s (from existing military ranks) is a thing because if a massively superior force attacked again humans would be totally screwed.

Not to complain, but comparing Bucks ODST team to the live action trailer for the game, widely disappointed. Everyone has a quirky joke with them, not a stone face or dark side to them.

And yeah, SIV’s need to get SERIOUS! >:(

> 2533274941937791;1:
> Spartan IVs sound so much like regular soldiers due to their call outs, personalities and of course, inferiority. They announce power weapons taken or enemies eliminated like they’re just regular Marines or something.
>
> Since it’s 2557 they’ve let Spartans keep personalities and stuff, but at least give them better armor will ya? It’s not like everyone needs DLC to get better armor performance in battle right? Besides, it’s already 4 years after the war and you’re still telling me Master Chief’s armor and performance is way better than these new Spartans with supposedly better technology and worse performance? What is this? It just makes no sense that the UNSC wants to save up so much money for what, I don’t really care! If they are willing to spend so much money to get a warship, might as well do the same for Spartans!

…S4’s basically are regular soldiers. They are people in the military service who actively signed up to be a spartan.
Not to mention the whole point of the S4 program is to modernize and make giant army’s of spartans.

the idea of spartans originally was about a small number of elite people who had access to the best gear and tech out there.

Now being a spartan is more about just being a better soldier.

I feel this guy only has hatred against the SIV program.