So I recently decided to play through all of Spartan Ops (Ep 1-10) on Legendary. I would like to play them in co-op seeing as currently there is no personal stat for completing them on solo or co-op, and it would me it more fun and less grinding. But Alas, no one on my friends list plays Halo 4 anymore(don’t get me wrong -I love it!), and it’s hard enough trying to play co-op online because my net connection is so bad (1.5Mb/s Down and .27Mb/s Up) that it’s quite slow and laggy. And I don’t really have anyone here locally -LAN or split screen to help and play along with this.
So anyways, back to my main concern at hand. I have not gotten far on Solo Legendary on SpOps, but many of the encounters have either too quick(frustratingly so) one shot Beam Rifle Kig-Yar snipers, sneaky Binary Rifle Crawlers, rush happy Knights, and blasted trigger happy Sangheili and Unggoy with unlimited ammo in their Fuel Rod Cannon’s!!
It was fun and good at first but it quickly turned sour within the first two Episodes… The unlimited respawns are nice obviously, but it’s still quite hard when the snipers sopt me so quickly and the fuel rod happy aliens charge and blast me all to Halo again…!
And I know 343 said that SpOps is mainly supposed to be a co-op thing, but that’s not as easy for me… They also said though that if I wanted to play through solo, it would accommodate that two; well it’s not bad on Normal or even Heroic solo, but Legendary solo with OP aliens like those -it got me angry pretty quickly -and there is not much in Halo 4 that makes me angry.
It just makes me sad that it’s going to be more grinding than fun difficulty challenge…
343i, if you would even consider some sort of tiny nerf to those aliens on solo legendary, it would make me a bit happy! I’m sure it could be fit into the TU!
–But yes, I understand how and why those changes would probably be bad overall…
So how’s Spartan Ops for everyone else? Solo? Co-op? Are the encounters reasonable?
This is a different topic, but the weapon de-spawning -especially in Spartan Ops and Campaign at higher difficulties… It makes me really sad that 343 would rather have a bit better lighting or graphic fidelity(though the 360 is very much showing its age now -especially with Halo 4) than probably more enjoyable(and variation in) gameplay with a longer weapon and enemy de-spawner timer. I don’t find it AS much a problem in multiplayer because that is more fast paced and such, but it still hurs me… Every other Halo has had quite long(from what I remember) weapon and body de-spawner, but 4’s hurts me every time I try to go back to my dead body in legendary SpOps and 20 secs after I died last, everything’s already gone.
The only reason I find Legendary unreasonable is because higher difficulties do nothing for experience earned.
Other than the chance of finding more abundance of certain enemies for Commendations, there is no EXP based reason to play on anything but Easy or Normal.
If I’m going to grind something that likes to violate me sideways, I’d like to atleast earn more than when I violate them sideways.
> This is a different topic, but the weapon de-spawning -especially in Spartan Ops and Campaign at higher difficulties… It makes me really sad that 343 would rather have a bit better lighting or graphic fidelity(though the 360 is very much showing its age now -especially with Halo 4) than probably more enjoyable(and variation in) gameplay with a longer weapon and enemy de-spawner timer. I don’t find it AS much a problem in multiplayer because that is more fast paced and such, but it still hurs me… Every other Halo has had quite long(from what I remember) weapon and body de-spawner, but 4’s hurts me every time I try to go back to my dead body in legendary SpOps and 20 secs after I died last, everything’s already gone.
The reason weapons despawn so quickly is because of Ordnance. With so many power weapons being on the map, 343i decided to have weapons quickly despawn so it wouldn’t be a power weapon Yoink-fest. This, of course, can go negative at times, in some gametypes, Spartan Ops definitely being one of them.
OT: Spartan Ops Legendary Solo isn’t hard overall. Just use the DMR, Plasma Pistol, Autosentry, and Ammo. And take your time.
The DMR allows you to get headshots, and deal with enemies at all ranges.
The Plasma Pistol allows you to easily deal with shielded enemies, and to a lesser extent, vehicles.
The Autosentry helps damage enemies, and will distract enemies (like those snipers you’re having trouble with). If you know a sniper is around the corner, just place the Autosentry around the corner. This AA helps a lot; Don’t underestimate it like most people on these forums do.
Ammo obviously allows you to have much more ammo for both your DMR and Plasma Pistol.
Oh, and be thankful the Legendary Snipers don’t act like Halo 2’s. Be very thankful.
Yeah I do use the Autosentry, but I don’t use it as much as I should because of being shot at when putting it up…
And my main motivations of completing SpOps on Legendary is seeing and knowing I completed it(the hard thing that it is), and for the Classified glyph Legendary SpOps code that gives XP and such…
> So you want 343i to nerf the baddies on Legendary because you suck?
sigh Here we go again. This is why people don’t make these topics anymore op.
> > This is a different topic, but the weapon de-spawning -especially in Spartan Ops and Campaign at higher difficulties… It makes me really sad that 343 would rather have a bit better lighting or graphic fidelity(though the 360 is very much showing its age now -especially with Halo 4) than probably more enjoyable(and variation in) gameplay with a longer weapon and enemy de-spawner timer. I don’t find it AS much a problem in multiplayer because that is more fast paced and such, but it still hurs me… Every other Halo has had quite long(from what I remember) weapon and body de-spawner, but 4’s hurts me every time I try to go back to my dead body in legendary SpOps and 20 secs after I died last, everything’s already gone.
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> The reason weapons despawn so quickly is because of Ordnance. With so many power weapons being on the map, 343i decided to have weapons quickly despawn so it wouldn’t be a power weapon Yoink-fest. This, of course, can go negative at times, in some gametypes, Spartan Ops definitely being one of them.
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> Oh, and be thankful the Legendary Snipers don’t act like Halo 2’s. Be very thankful.
It’s a horrible excuse that made the situation worse IMO. It’s evident the game can’t handle all of the load so 343i had to do some prioritization (in a bad way). The game plays free of lag (except on Co-op) but nearly everything deloads at a faster rate. It’s amazing Spartan Ops can manage it’s high enemy numbers but I’m guessing it’s because most of it is simple scripting (i.e. enemies rush player).
H2 Jackal snipers are overrated. They were often in one place, very linear. Easy headshots, there wasn’t much pressure when dealing with them.
The Jackal snipers in Halo 4 can be seen spread out or in a position where you’re screwed or doomed to respawn in. And you have a bunch of Elites with concussion rifles or fuel rod guns assisting them.
> The only reason I find Legendary unreasonable is because higher difficulties do nothing for experience earned.
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> Other than the chance of finding more abundance of certain enemies for Commendations, there is no EXP based reason to play on anything but Easy or Normal.
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> If I’m going to grind something that likes to violate me sideways, I’d like to atleast earn more than when I violate them sideways.
I haven’t touched Legendary for a long time. I only play it for weird AI quirks or if there’s allied Spartans or Marines.
> This is a different topic, but the weapon de-spawning -especially in Spartan Ops and Campaign at higher difficulties… It makes me really sad that 343 would rather have a bit better lighting or graphic fidelity(though the 360 is very much showing its age now -especially with Halo 4) than <mark>probably more enjoyable(and variation in) gameplay with a longer weapon and enemy de-spawner timer</mark>. I don’t find it AS much a problem in multiplayer because that is more fast paced and such, but it still hurs me… Every other Halo has had quite long(from what I remember) weapon and body de-spawner, but 4’s hurts me every time I try to go back to my dead body in legendary SpOps and 20 secs after I died last, everything’s already gone.
Heck yeah! Have you heard of megabattles? They were the best in CE because how you could customize the playing field and eliminate unwanted enemies before the battle.
You can now do the same in Halo 3, but it’s slower because the enemies are dumb sponges and Chief is an old man (but he can still jump well). But if it’s a bunch of Grunts with Catch on, it can get pretty hectic.
Halo 2 also has these kinds of battles and it’s even more enjoyable due to it’s <mark>diverse, distinct skull selection</mark>. The current skull selection defines a Mythic experience but for Spartan Ops, I’d have liked to see skulls, especially some fun and/or advantageous skulls like in Halo 2.
> H2 Jackal snipers are overrated. They were often in one place, very linear. Easy headshots, there wasn’t much pressure when dealing with them.
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> The Jackal snipers in Halo 4 can be seen spread out or in a position where you’re screwed or doomed to respawn in. And you have a bunch of Elites with concussion rifles or fuel rod guns assisting them.
Clearly you haven’t played Halo 2 Legendary in quite a while. Go load up the level Outskirts and have fun in the alleys…
Yeah, they spawn as the same location every time (just like Spartan Ops), but the main things are their accuracy and reactions.
If you mess up in the slightest, you’re dead.
If you miss, you’re dead.
If you wait longer than half a second, you’re dead.
If you poke out, you’re dead.
If you’re distracted, you’re dead.
If you didn’t know, you’re dead.
With Halo 4’s, they miss the first shot nearly every time. And when they hit you, it gets rid of your shields. It takes two shots to kill you, and they’re easy to kill. They’re reaction time is much slower.
And yes, the Halo 4 Jackal Snipers have assist, but Halo 2 Jackal Snipers never needed assists, but when they did have it…
Legendary SpOps is easier than heroic in any of the games. Thanks to the infinite respawns and no loss of progress upon death it’s more in line with the normal difficulty.
> > This is a different topic, but the weapon de-spawning -especially in Spartan Ops and Campaign at higher difficulties… It makes me really sad that 343 would rather have a bit better lighting or graphic fidelity(though the 360 is very much showing its age now -especially with Halo 4) than probably more enjoyable(and variation in) gameplay with a longer weapon and enemy de-spawner timer. I don’t find it AS much a problem in multiplayer because that is more fast paced and such, but it still hurs me… Every other Halo has had quite long(from what I remember) weapon and body de-spawner, but 4’s hurts me every time I try to go back to my dead body in legendary SpOps and 20 secs after I died last, everything’s already gone.
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> <mark>The reason weapons despawn so quickly is because of Ordnance.</mark> With so many power weapons being on the map, 343i decided to have weapons quickly despawn so it wouldn’t be a power weapon Yoink-fest. This, of course, can go negative at times, in some gametypes, Spartan Ops definitely being one of them.
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> OT: Spartan Ops Legendary Solo isn’t hard overall. Just use the DMR, Plasma Pistol, Autosentry, and Ammo. And take your time.
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> The DMR allows you to get headshots, and deal with enemies at all ranges.
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> The Plasma Pistol allows you to easily deal with shielded enemies, and to a lesser extent, vehicles.
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> The Autosentry helps damage enemies, and will distract enemies (like those snipers you’re having trouble with). If you know a sniper is around the corner, just place the Autosentry around the corner. This AA helps a lot; Don’t underestimate it like most people on these forums do.
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> Ammo obviously allows you to have much more ammo for both your DMR and Plasma Pistol.
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> Oh, and be thankful the Legendary Snipers don’t act like Halo 2’s. Be very thankful.
Just quoting to tell you your wrong. weapons, bodies, and exploded vehicles despawn so fast to prevent frame rate lag. The graphics of halo 4 push the limits of the console already as is. Heck looking into the sky on exile causes some frame rate lag. There was official word on this awhile ago. It has nothing to do with power weapon spam. If that was the issue dominion would not exist.
